Originally posted by silver
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dont know if they do but I would definately recommend it. The days of hiding have to be over, if someone wants to hide they are going to fuck you over in the end anyway or they wouldnt have a problem showing who they are. Most of the problems we have now in our industry are a result of slime who hid behind the veil of the internet. Time to go out into the light. -
They sound like a fantastic companyand from what heard they are the best , i just dont agree with them taking my CC# and billing info and then say nothing about asking for Photo ID durning the billing process.Then 24 hours later mail me asking me for ID , i wouldnt have joined in the first place and there was nothing on the join form saying this was mandatory.Originally posted by scottybuzzyay
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its just about being cautious online, its not only the people selling that need to be careful but those buying as well. how professional are all these companies that are asking for id though? they could go belly up tomorrow. webair is a well known name of course but not everyone is. your drivers license could be used for sending bad wire or bank transfers, SSN used to create prepaid credit cards that are used illegally and the list goes on. identity theft is a very real thing. what reassurance does the customer get that they won't get screwed in some way? like you say, none of this is face to face but using this method they get to see my 'face' but all i get is some contact info on a website.Originally posted by tony404you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Webair is the place to go. They were my first pay host in the industry way back around about '99. Then I thought the grass was greener and left and spent the next few years going from host to host trying to find service as good as Webair. Then I woke up and went back to Webair and wouldn't go anywhere else now.Originally posted by scottybuzzComment
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Tony i agree with you to a point , but on the other hand some people want thier privacy respected.Originally posted by tony404
Hell i own over 50 fire arms never had to show ID for any of them all bought from private partys.
Except for 2 that are Class3 , and i had to go through a long process to be able to own them even had to get a letter from the Chief of police stating i was not going to use the silencer or my MG for any crimes.
But before i bought these weapons they told me it was a long process , they just didnt sell them to me and say , hey man you have to go through all these back ground checks and get letters from the Chief of police for the city you reside in.yayComment
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How can you even compare asking for ID for porn signups and getting a dedicated server, which can be used for malicious purposes and potentially cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages.
They are protecting their own asses for both fraud & security.
Any host that doesn't authenticate won't be around for long, and I wouldn't trust hosting anything with them.Comment
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I dont get it. How exactly does it protect an account?This(phot ID) is needed for your account protection.
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Scotty contact me when ready and I provide you with a great plan and customer service.Originally posted by scottybuzz
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I was not buying a server through them just a small Virt plan.Originally posted by onlineriches
For a little TGP and a link dump i wasnt looking to over throw the goverment with it and take over the world LOL.
The only thing that upset me was there was nothing on the form saying ID was mandatory, i never heard of the company someone recomended them to me and i thought it was a bit shady asking for all this billing info then mailing me the next day for a copy of my ID.yayComment
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WEBAIR ROCKS .. Best Host I have ever had !! woot woot to Mike and the webair crewComment
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If webair told me to FLY over and leave my fingerprints, I would have! Because hosting with webair is the fucking best. Period!M&A QueenComment
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There are bad affiliates and bad sponsors. I understand your point of view, but do you really feel comfortable giving the information to ever affiliate you sign up with? Half the sponsors out there are fly by night and will close up shop one day out of the blue. Do you really want your ID with them? We have enough problems right now with major companies in mainstream losing this information and having people's information abused. I can't imagine you'd trust affiliate programs online with that information.Originally posted by tony404Comment
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Yes, Webair has always been good to me been there for 8 months now.Comment
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sorry to hear about yer woes man
i never had that great of an experience with webair either
Often times I wonder why
There's love and hate, theres live or die.
When sickness comes I must decide:
When feelings go, theres suicide.
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Then id's would make people more careful who they do business with online, wouldnt it? That can also happen if you ever applied for a job, bricks and motar companies go out of business all the time. Also I bet the credit worthness of most in adult would make their socal security numbers useless lol. I think alot of the fucking over happens because people can hide.Originally posted by BlackCrayonComment
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Then I guess it would make everyone more careful who they do business with and you see this as a bad thing why?Originally posted by pocketkangarooComment
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One thing i have learned on this board over the past 4 years is
that it is full of hypocrites and suck asses and those hypocrites and suck asses are the root
to the Adult buisness having a bad name , take for instance someone like nofx
posting the truth about crosssales you guys went into a uproar , hell even the
loadies over at Wegcash posted personal shit about him on here out of spite.
For Example:
To me there is a big difference in advertising on myspace and scamming
surfers for millions of dollars a year but you guys are to stupid or
just to blind to see that or maybe your just to busy french kissing each others asses.
I could sit here and post exapmles for the next 6 months 24 hours aday.
My Point:
If every processer went and took the surfers billing info
and then mailed them the next day telling them they cant have access
to the site until they fax over a copy of thier photo ID, you guys
would go crazy and loose thousands and some of you guys even millions
every year, plus piss off alot of people.
Or hey maybe even this , how about if US law made it mandatory
for every website owner to have a copy of his or her ID on the billing form
so they know who they are buying a membership from and know its legit.
Hmmmmm i wonder if you guys would be all for that ?
Most of you guys need to wake the fuck up and look in the mirror
because karma is going to come back on you like like flys on an Ethiopian.yayComment
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they are doing this for your own good, but the pussy is always better on the other side I guess. Webair rockshttp://www.highsociety.com
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yup, that was quite fucking retarded of Fagcash Cory. but hey, the past is the past ;] let 'em burn bridges !Originally posted by silver
Often times I wonder why
There's love and hate, theres live or die.
When sickness comes I must decide:
When feelings go, theres suicide.
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pretty much the same here..getting ready to move all my stuff back to webairOriginally posted by sarah_webinc
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seems you are the jerkoff......Originally posted by silver
Fucking moron....waaa waaa i am too lazy to do a simple task...fucking asshatComment
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Originally posted by silver
Go buy yourself a fucking clue........Comment
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uhmm no one answer my question. ok i'll change that! so every hosting company around now a days are freely to ask scanned id's and cc's (front and back). do you think consumers are also safe? im getting a server this week but im having a doubt to send my id/info and esp my cc. any thoughts?Last edited by tenderobject; 07-09-2006, 02:24 PM.
NEED DESIGNS?!?
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Even if I was building a site for the Church I would not want some hosting company (let alone an adult one) having copies of gov. issued ID with all personal info on it.
Real scammers would use false ID / photoshopped ID anyways.Comment
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webair Sucks!! Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!Comment
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This is no different than the people at {Insert Store Name} asking for your ID when you make a purchase. There's a big difference between signing up for a paysite and actually purchasing a hosting account. You're using their server to post content (whatever it may be). This exponentially increases their liability.
You shouldn't blame them for being cautious. Maybe they should say somewhere that they may require an ID, but I think this was overreacting just a bit. If you've ever had your card stolen and used (especially a debit card draining a bank account unexpectedly), you'd appreciate them asking for verification.
WebAir is great. I don't see where they did anything wrong.Comment
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You'll learn what unlimited bandwidth is when the pipe is so clogged with traffic that no one can reach your websites.
My first sites were a co-lo deal back in 1994. I wanted to save money (bandwidth was $12.50 a gig back then) so looked into unlimited bandwidth.
My sysadmin gave me some great advice.
"Yes, the bandwidth is unlimited. But, it's like saying you can have all the gasoline you want from this million gallon tank. Oh, by the way, here is the cocktail straw for you to remove the gas from the tank."Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!Comment
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I recommend you to start a new thread about it.. here and thereOriginally posted by tenderobject
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Rofl , i think it's funny when lil faggots with waxed eyebrows hide behind computers trying to insult people.Originally posted by Juicy D. LinksyayComment
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webair rocks, and it does mention the photo ID during the sign up process...Comment
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After doing some checking around, i found out.....Originally posted by tenderobject
By law once you send them a copy of your state ID & CC , you can request that they destroy the copy of your ID & CC after they varafied its you , if they do not destroy it , you can actully file criminal charges against them for being in possession of it , it's very ilegal for them to be in possession of your ID and keep it on file , you can do the same with an employer.yayComment
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yeah, that analogy sucks big dick...Originally posted by soulswagon
its ALOT different, if i goto wal-mart and buy a pack of smokes and the guy at the counter asks for my id to make sure im of age, i doubt he goes to the office and scans it, then gives it back... he looks at it and gives it back... way different then a company asking for a scan of your id, you don't know if they grab your address and shit off it, and sell that to people to send you shit in the mail, or if they distroy it after verifying you're legit..
my host just had to call me to verify my account, no ID or anything, just a phone call to get some things and they were doneComment
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you thnk that's fucked up try and get on an airplane these daysOriginally posted by silverComment
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Yes, they will destroy is for sure. In fact just you asking for them to destroy it will make sure they make 10 copies of it and save it forever.
Originally posted by silverComment
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We use them for Satancash and Mobbucks ... never had a problem
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The 10 copies will be useless to them when they are sitting a Federal Prison for 10 years for possession of other peoples credit cards and photo idenification with out thier permission.Originally posted by ChargebackJoeyayComment
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I agree that it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy, but for the most part, they have all of your information if you're signing up for hosting services anyway. Mine required a street address and phone call, but no scans of ID, etc. Worse case, black out the areas they don't "need". Like some of the content people do. I'm sure most would be fine with that.Originally posted by LOL :D
I did misword what I meant though. It's not the same thing. I just meant they are trying to accomplish the same goal. So yeah, my analogy does suck big dick. I was just trying to say they're trying to cover themselves, not just make the process intentionally a pain the ass for everyone.Last edited by soulswagon; 07-09-2006, 05:09 PM.Comment
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We have systems in place (as do many other companies) to check and prevent fraud automatically. This person signed up for a virtual account, and was red flagged by our processing company for one reason or another, so we requested an ID to accompany the credit card. Is this such an unreasonable request? In order to prevent charge-backs, fraudulent accounts, and protect our own interests in whom we do business with, when accounts do not meet the fraud protection minimum standards to pass through automatically we request additional ID. This is set up to protect our company and to protect malicious activity from occurring on our networks.
When you have hundreds or thousands of accounts passing through your systems on a daily basis you need to take certain precautions to guard against fraud. It's not that difficult to verify the validity of a credit card. I do not think it's unreasonable to ask for additional information if a persons account does not meet the requirements set forth by our merchant company. In fact by implementing these precautions webair has managed to maintain a zero percent charge back ratio for years.
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