Man on eBay is sued by seller after posting 'negative feedback'

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  • xmas13
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    • Dec 2004
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    Man on eBay is sued by seller after posting 'negative feedback'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...k-website.html

    When Chris Read bought a mobile phone through online auction site eBay, it was described as being in good condition.

    But when it arrived a few days later, he was disappointed to find it was not only damaged but also the wrong model.

    After returning his purchase and receiving a refund from the seller, Joel Jones, he used the website's feedback section - which can be read by other people - to give his honest opinion of the transaction.

    'Item was scratched, chipped and not the model advertised on Mr Jones' eBay account,' he wrote, assuming it was the end of the matter.

    But in what is believed to be a legal first in the UK if the case is brought to court, he has now received an email threatening him with legal action for libel.

    Mr Jones claims the unfavourable comments have damaged his business's reputation and affected trade.

    The legal missive goes on to warn Mr Read that if he fails to retract his comments he will be dragged to court where he faces costs, lawyers' fees and damages.

    Father-of-five Mr Read said yesterday: 'I can't believe someone can be so petty. I only wanted to buy a phone.'
    Last edited by xmas13; 10-23-2008, 09:57 AM.
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  • Eriic
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    #2
    Just retarded if you can't leave a realistic comment........

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    • DAMNMAN
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      #3
      If I were ebay I'd put a clause in the contract to aviod this and freeze the sellers account.
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      • Deej
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        #4
        hrmmm - i assume he didnt get pictures of its condition when it arrived. Should still be easy to prove he was not spewing libel, but the truth...

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        • pornguy
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          #5
          Fucking amazing.

          People are out of their minds now days.
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          • Bojangles
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            #6
            Uhhh... Wow. That's some shit.

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            • Barefootsies
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              #7
              Originally posted by pornguy
              Fucking amazing.

              People are out of their minds now days.
              Yup.

              I remember getting notice from ebay over the summer that sellers can no longer leave negative feedback on buyers or something to that degree.

              Kinda makes sense, but these ebayers have lost their minds. I only use it when I am looking for rare items, golf gears, or whatever. Maybe a dozen times a year if that.
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              • DefaultMan
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                #8
                Some people are fucking insane.
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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #9
                  I know someone that does nothing but Ebay for a living. EBay has been doing some very fucked up things lately to buyers and sellers.

                  One of them is the feedback system where comments that are made effect the ranking of items for sale. The idea was to keep bad sellers down the list and good sellers at the top. However even 1 singular negative comments will kill ranking for an item.

                  Thus a dearth of the bigger stores buy items from independent sellers then put in negative feedback with the sole reason to put dents on other sellers reputations.

                  Ebay also raised the prices they take on items sold. There is alot of weird shit going on over there these days. This artical does not surprise me because it is precisely why Seller's are raging pissed about the new feedback system.

                  It wouldnt surprise me if that git behind the desk sells on EBay also and sells Cell Phones and bought an item to damage the reputation of a competitor.
                  Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-23-2008, 10:51 AM.

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                  • hjnet
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                    #10
                    99% of people that say "I sue you" don't sue

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                    • Vicious_B
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                      #11
                      People are way too litigation happy anymore.
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                      • rowan
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                        • Mar 2002
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                        #12
                        Here's the feedback page...

                        http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...e&interval=365

                        For those of you not ebay members:

                        Feedback / Item From / Price Date/Time
                        Negative feedback rating
                        Item was scratched, chipped and not the model advertised.
                        Buyer: chris_read.2008 ( 6 )
                        03-Oct-08 11:33
                        SAMSUNG F700 UNLOCKED (#380061414077) £155.00

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                        • mrwilson
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                          #13
                          lol what a fucking joke.

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                          • - Jesus Christ -
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by xmas13
                            received an email threatening him with legal action for libel
                            How is this worth writing a news story over... or posting here.
                            I could send you a similar e-mail right now...

                            UNINTERESTING and a misleading title. He hasn't been sued.
                            Last edited by - Jesus Christ -; 10-23-2008, 02:05 PM.

                            Amen

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                            • Spunky
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                              #15
                              It's all about the feedback

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                              • tony299
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                                #16
                                Ebay should make that it if you agree to sell or buy you have to go thru ebay arbitration. It will cut the bullshit.

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                                • cherrylula
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                                  • Jan 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Maybe it was the model advertised and this guy is just a douche.

                                  That is the comment that will fuck up his biz, item misrepresentation. If he didn't sell the guy the wrong item, and the guy is just stupid and complaining, the other guy has a right to do something about it if he is losing $.

                                  Ebay has sucked for years. And you cannot leave negative feedback to buyers if they fuck you over now either.

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                                  • cherrylula
                                    lol
                                    • Jan 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                    Ebay should make that it if you agree to sell or buy you have to go thru ebay arbitration. It will cut the bullshit.
                                    yeah well they own paypal, and we know how they handle things.

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                                    • NinjaSteve
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                                      #19
                                      I don't think that's something to sue over. Maybe the seller shouldn't have fucked up in the first place.
                                      ...

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                                      • collegeboobies
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                                        #20
                                        In the United States you can sue for $5000 in small claims court, if the person that left negative feedback does not show up, you get the judgment and the feedback removed by Ebay. This is necessary now. Sellers can no longer give a buyer negative feedback, and buyers extorting sellers over feedback is now common. Many Ebay sellers sue for every single negative feedback left, even neutral. And guess what? They have perfect feedback.

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                                        • Sly
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                                          #21
                                          I just bought a phone off eBay the other day, I have not received it yet. But, after I ordered it I got an e-mail from the seller basically demanding that I only give him all ratings of five. And if I don't feel like every topic deserves a five, I should e-mail him so he can rectify it.

                                          What the hell? I'm supposed to e-mail this guy if I feel that he should get a four instead of a five?
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                                          • SuckOnThis
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                                            #22
                                            Some asshole left me negative feedback 3 hours after buying (a cell phone nonetheless) from me because I didnt respond to his email right away. I accidentally sent him an old piece of crap phone that was 5 years old. Ooops.

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                                            • woj
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
                                              How is this worth writing a news story over... or posting here.
                                              I could send you a similar e-mail right now...

                                              UNINTERESTING and a misleading title. He hasn't been sued.
                                              good point
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                                              • ~Ray
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                                                #24
                                                I had a seller leave negative feedback 6 hours after the end of the auction for NON PAYMENT... 6 fucking hours after the auction ended..

                                                Needless to say, ebay removed it.. but goes to show you what kind of horrible people are on eBay RIGHT NOW!
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                                                • HeadPimp
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                                                  #25
                                                  eBay is dicked anyway. A lot of sellers left this year when the instituted their new policy of not letting sellers leave feedback for buyers, and pretty much always siding with buyers when it came to refunds (unless there was eBay insurance on the deal.)

                                                  Ebay is slowly dying.....

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                                                  • Slick
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                                                    #26
                                                    The thing is that the seller DID give the guy a full refund. Even though it was the wrong model and damaged. If the seller was trying to fuck him, he wouldn't have given him a refund, but he did. I wouldn't leave negative feedback for something like that.

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                                                    • 96ukssob
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by HeadPimp
                                                      eBay is dicked anyway. A lot of sellers left this year when the instituted their new policy of not letting sellers leave feedback for buyers, and pretty much always siding with buyers when it came to refunds (unless there was eBay insurance on the deal.)

                                                      Ebay is slowly dying.....
                                                      wow i didnt know that. back a while ago i got a lot of problem sellers. i honestly wouldnt sell anything on that site again mainly because of the large number of scammers on there
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                                                      • rowan
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                        Some asshole left me negative feedback 3 hours after buying (a cell phone nonetheless) from me because I didnt respond to his email right away. I accidentally sent him an old piece of crap phone that was 5 years old. Ooops.
                                                        You do know he can leave a followup feedback comment telling everyone of this, right?

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                                                        • adonthenet
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                                                          #29
                                                          lol what an idiot.. :P

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                                                          • Oracle Porn
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HeadPimp
                                                            eBay is dicked anyway. A lot of sellers left this year when the instituted their new policy of not letting sellers leave feedback for buyers, and pretty much always siding with buyers when it came to refunds (unless there was eBay insurance on the deal.)

                                                            Ebay is slowly dying.....
                                                            left? where did they leave too? i dont know many places with so many buyers as ebay lol do you?


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                                                            • D Ghost
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                                                              #31
                                                              wow thats the funniest shit i've heard all day!

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                                                              • myjah
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                                                                #32
                                                                The past 3 times I've bought something from Ebay, I've had to return it. I'm done.
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                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                  lol
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by collegeboobies
                                                                  In the United States you can sue for $5000 in small claims court, if the person that left negative feedback does not show up, you get the judgment and the feedback removed by Ebay. This is necessary now. Sellers can no longer give a buyer negative feedback, and buyers extorting sellers over feedback is now common. Many Ebay sellers sue for every single negative feedback left, even neutral. And guess what? They have perfect feedback.
                                                                  You can sue for $500, much less than 5k actually.

                                                                  I won a case in small claims for about $1,200.00, but then you have to chase the broke ass person for the money.

                                                                  Stuck a private investigator up his ass, with a judgment they can go for their bank account, and then a 30 day hold on the money through some state legal department and 30% cut to the PI, I got paid.

                                                                  So after chasing the guy, and paying someone to get the money, I surely didn't make a profit.

                                                                  People are fucking losers!

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                                                                  • cherrylula
                                                                    lol
                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Slick
                                                                    The thing is that the seller DID give the guy a full refund. Even though it was the wrong model and damaged. If the seller was trying to fuck him, he wouldn't have given him a refund, but he did. I wouldn't leave negative feedback for something like that.
                                                                    that makes sense.

                                                                    This thread makes me never want to deal with ebay again. I have some crap laying around the house I was going to list too.

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                                                                    • Kudles
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      What an idiot
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