why the FUCK can't I get NATS installed?

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  • dig420
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 9240

    #1

    why the FUCK can't I get NATS installed?

    I've been thru about four techs, 15 or 20k in fees, and I STILL can't find a tech who can do a simple NATS install without flaking. What the fuck?

    Where have all the good programmers gone?
  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
    best designer on GFY
    • Mar 2003
    • 30307

    #2
    Ya could had Jon's team do the install and sent me the check for what ever the amount the money would have saved you.

    How the fuck, I mean THE FUCK! HOW do you spend $20,000 bucks on a fucking program install?

    I guess it's safe to say you only pay retards.
    So hold the check.
    Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-22-2008, 01:15 PM.

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    • tranza
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      • Jun 2003
      • 57559

      #3
      Wow, 20k and it's still not working????????
      I'm just a newbie.

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      • dig420
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 9240

        #4
        Jon who? wft are you talking about?

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        • dig420
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 9240

          #5
          Originally posted by tranza
          Wow, 20k and it's still not working????????
          Nope. Techs work for two weeks, bullshit me on how well it's going then disappear forever.

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          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
            best designer on GFY
            • Mar 2003
            • 30307

            #6
            Originally posted by dig420
            Jon who? wft are you talking about?
            Oh god...

            Don't make my head hurt. I am sorry for even posting in this thread.

            Ya could have paid me 10,000 and I would have done it and I do not even know how to, but 10,000 I think I could learn real fucking quick!

            PS: Out the scammers name so they don't fuck other guys here!
            Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-22-2008, 01:19 PM.

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            • Brujah
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              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #7
              Ouch. Is NATS that difficult to install? I hope it's not that difficult to use once it's installed.

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              • GrouchyAdmin
                Now choke yourself!
                • Apr 2006
                • 12085

                #8
                What do you need? Feel free to drop me an email with any gateways, sites, or anything else required, and I'll hit you back with an estimate.

                If it's NATS 4, though, I won't touch it. It's not stable enough that I want to be involved.

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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 30307

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brujah
                  Ouch. Is NATS that difficult to install? I hope it's not that difficult to use once it's installed.
                  Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
                  LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...

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                  • dig420
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2001
                    • 9240

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                    What do you need? Feel free to drop me an email with any gateways, sites, or anything else required, and I'll hit you back with an estimate.

                    If it's NATS 4, though, I won't touch it. It's not stable enough that I want to be involved.
                    I did hit you up, I talked to you in depth and you didn't want the job before but I'll hit you up now

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                    • DarkJedi
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 28301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dig420
                      Jon who? wft are you talking about?
                      John Atherton

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                      • stevo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 2051

                        #12
                        Having a third party install it?
                        NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

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                        • Deej
                          I make pixels work
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 24386

                          #13
                          NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

                          20k is a bit excessive isnt it?

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                          • Deej
                            I make pixels work
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 24386

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevo
                            Having a third party install it?
                            NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

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                            • dig420
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                              • May 2001
                              • 9240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                              Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
                              LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...
                              I forgot, you invented nats

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                              • uno
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #16
                                I thought TMM installs it themselves, no?
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                                • stevo
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                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 2051

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Deej
                                  NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

                                  20k is a bit excessive isnt it?
                                  He probably bought the one time license fee for $19,500.
                                  Then didnt spend $250 to install it?

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                                  • dig420
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 9240

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Deej
                                    NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

                                    20k is a bit excessive isnt it?
                                    fuck yeah... it's not totally simple, NATS and ES have to work concurrently for at least a two week period and all info has to be imported from ES to NATS as well. I think that's been the problem.

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                                    • TheDoc
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                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 13827

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                      Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
                                      LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...
                                      If every server was setup the same, same os, same admins, same host... then "maybe" and nats is way hell more than php and a db and an install script..
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                                      • GrouchyAdmin
                                        Now choke yourself!
                                        • Apr 2006
                                        • 12085

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dig420
                                        I did hit you up, I talked to you in depth and you didn't want the job before but I'll hit you up now
                                        I have been sending quite a few away recently due to time constraints - but if you just need something simple and not custom, having TMM do it is your cheapest alternative.

                                        You wanted to move from ES, right? I didn't take the job due to a lack of ES experience. I didn't want you to pay to "train" me; that wouldn't be fair.

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                                        • Sly
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                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 31376

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stevo
                                          Having a third party install it?
                                          NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.
                                          They may install it but do they set up the sites for you and make sure that prior tracking systems convert over properly? I don't think they do that stuff... not really sure though. A lot of people require custom work though that they do not cover.
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                                          • stevo
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 2051

                                            #22
                                            My advise - definitely go through NATS, there's always going to be some minor little problem or backdoor issue that only their techs will be able to solve "simply".

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                                            • dig420
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 9240

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stevo
                                              My advise - definitely go through NATS, there's always going to be some minor little problem or backdoor issue that only their techs will be able to solve "simply".
                                              yeah I talk to Boris or John about every day.

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                                              • Dirty D
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                                                • May 2002
                                                • 4044

                                                #24
                                                It sounds like the issues are integration, conversion, concurrency and seamless tracking...

                                                NOT installation.
                                                The base NATS install is simple and probably already been done by TMM.

                                                True tech expertise is what is needed to cover the other issues.

                                                "The devil is always in the details"

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                                                • dig420
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                                                  • May 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty D
                                                  It sounds like the issues are integration, conversion, concurrency and seamless tracking...

                                                  NOT installation.
                                                  The base NATS install is simple and probably already been done by TMM.

                                                  True tech expertise is what is needed to cover the other issues.

                                                  "The devil is always in the details"
                                                  This is probably an accurate summation of the problem.

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                                                  • dig420
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 9240

                                                    #26
                                                    Just want to make it clear that the problem IS NOT with nats, TMM has been nothing but helpful and active trying to make this work and if it was just a simple NATS install this would be cake. The problem is with the concurrent tracking and importing and my shitty hiring skills lol... I think this thread might fix that though, getting a much better response than the last couple times I came in here and cried about it.

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                                                    • PornNewz
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                                                      • Jul 2008
                                                      • 851

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dig420
                                                      I've been thru about 15 or 20k in fees
                                                      Hope you got a free bowl of soup with that!
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                                                      • notoldschool
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                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                        • 5687

                                                        #28
                                                        Take my advice...do it yourself. Its a bitch the first time but its well worth knowing how your own biz operates. It is not easy like most will boast about, but its worth walking the walk for knowledge purposes.
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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                          Take my advice...do it yourself. Its a bitch the first time but its well worth knowing how your own biz operates. It is not easy like most will boast about, but its worth walking the walk for knowledge purposes.
                                                          Dude, what they are doing, like .5% of the entire Webmaster population can help with. What they are doing has taken MONTHS.

                                                          If you don't have any skills in nats, very advanced webmastering, coding, graphics, html, database, code, servers... your ass isn't moving .00001% into this project.

                                                          That's why it takes 5-8 months to do mergers.
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                                                          • ro8in
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                                                            • Sep 2006
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                                                            #30
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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 30307

                                                              #31
                                                              Post for Dig420.

                                                              I wanna know who fucked the installation and modification and ran with the money.

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