Are Americans Structured To Fail?

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  • Greg B
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2001
    • 7014

    #1

    Are Americans Structured To Fail?

    Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

    It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

    Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?
  • xlogger
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 9507

    #2
    I dont think so, i already paid off my college loans and car loans.

    The business tax, well, if you know how to play around with taxes a little you wont be paying much at all.

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    • Rochard
      Jägermeister Test Pilot
      • Dec 2001
      • 75762

      #3
      None of this is true, depending on how smart you are.

      You can join the military for four years and get some of the benefits for the rest of your life - GI bill and interest free home loans.

      I did four years in the Marines, got my education, got my interest free home loan, and by the time I got married I was able to pay cash for it. Since then I've stayed away from credit - no real need for it unless your buying a car or a house.
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      Brooklyn, NY

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      • scottybuzz
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        • May 2006
        • 14799

        #4
        i hate people getting credit "for that new kitchen or holiday they always wanted"

        pfft fucktards
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        • shermo

          #5
          How is this true? I went to college, got a degree and am getting married. My only debt is my house (which is also an asset) and a car which I don't pay much for.

          You don't have to follow the trends to be American.

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          • FunForOne
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 8704

            #6
            Originally posted by Greg B
            Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

            It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

            Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?


            Its called delayed gratification. If you want something nice, you have to contribute to society and earn it.

            Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

            Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

            This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
            You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.

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            • Egomancer
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              • Dec 2005
              • 2074

              #7
              Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

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              • Mr. Soul
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                • Jul 2005
                • 1633

                #8
                Originally posted by Egomancer
                Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

                Egomancer


                That doesn't happen to conservatives. They don't get sick either. They're like supermen.

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                • Webby
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14956

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FunForOne
                  Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

                  Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

                  This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
                  You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.
                  DUH???

                  Amazing the fountain of knowledge that sprews forth - covering every topic from immigration to conservatives and liberals. Just awesome
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                  • Greg B
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 7014

                    #10
                    I know Webby, I know. With all his right wing rhetoric he failed as usual to notice the topic was formed as a question not a statement.

                    Any excuse to spout some shit and someone will barge into a thread and try to fuck it up.

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                    • minusonebit
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7391

                      #11
                      Not all of us follow the plan prepared for us.

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                      • Greg B
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 7014

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                        That doesn't happen to conservatives. They don't get sick either. They're like supermen.
                        Ya, like Dick Cheney 'Heart ConditionMan' or Ronald Reagan 'The Amazing Alzheimer's Man' or...

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                        • FunForOne
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 8704

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Egomancer
                          Yeah, FunForOne, until you have an accident and can't work for 1 year. And then the house, the car and everything is gone...

                          Egomancer


                          work harder, get a savings account, buy disability insurance. Every problem you can throw out, I can answer with delayed gratification. Most american's dont realize the difference between wants and needs. That is the problem.

                          You want a new big screen television, you want a $50,000 car, you want a $250,000 house. You need transportation, shelter and food.

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                          • FunForOne
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 8704

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Greg B
                            I know Webby, I know. With all his right wing rhetoric he failed as usual to notice the topic was formed as a question not a statement.

                            Any excuse to spout some shit and someone will barge into a thread and try to fuck it up.


                            It was a question, I answered it. I made fun of your train of thought that led to you posting the question on a message board. Most people figure that out and move on to more complex issues, not you.


                            Its not my job to educate you idiots, but I sometimes do it anyway. Not once have you ever thanked me.

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                            • Sexxxy Sites
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 851

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Greg B
                              Consider that before an American leaves their teenage years, if they enter college they're required to go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars. Upon graduation they incur more debt, get married add more debt, have kids add more debt, buy home, add more debt. Add to that the wishy washy job market and lapses in time where health insurace is available. Business taxes and such and so on.

                              It's like if a guy take one step ahead he's two steps behind.

                              Is this due to inefficiency or some structured plan to keep you all in tow?
                              In answer to the thread title, no. In answer to the question in your post, no. Responsible adults do relitively well in America.

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                              • Webby
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 14956

                                #16
                                Originally posted by FunForOne
                                Its not my job to educate you idiots, but I sometimes do it anyway. Not once have you ever thanked me.
                                Man.. understandably you are a superior being and a fountain of knowledge on all aspects of life. I hope you don't get a pain in your neck looking down on mere mortals as you attempt to educate.

                                You got to be joking or insane - your arrogance and flippant bullshit deserves no thanks in any way. Awesome, but funny post!
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                                • butterflybucks
                                  Butterfly Bucks
                                  • Sep 2005
                                  • 1422

                                  #17
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                                  • Sexxxy Sites
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                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 851

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                    In answer to the thread title, no. In answer to the question in your post, no. Responsible adults do relitively well in America.
                                    Should be relatively.

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                                    • Sexxxy Sites
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 851

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                      Man.. understandably you are a superior being and a fountain of knowledge on all aspects of life. I hope you don't get a pain in your neck looking down on mere mortals as you attempt to educate.

                                      You got to be joking or insane - your arrogance and flippant bullshit deserves no thanks in any way. Awesome, but funny post!
                                      It is apparent (from your babbling, lying, BS posts) that he is superior to you.

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                                      • Loryn
                                        Super Connector
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 12853

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FunForOne
                                        Its called delayed gratification. If you want something nice, you have to contribute to society and earn it.

                                        Its actually a system that rewards american's far beyond any other system available. What you described is the sole reason immigrants are continuing to come to the country. Now you see why America is the only superpower in the world, in just 230 short years.

                                        Thanks for being 100% wrong and proving you dont understand whats going on around you.

                                        This is a good illustration on how conservatives and liberals think differently.
                                        You see our system as setting up for failure, I see it as setting up for success.
                                        This post MADE my 4th of JULY!!!! Thank you so much! I clicked on this thread thinking oh shit here we go again, America sucks America is bad, no one believes what they see, they see what they want to believe and seek out to see failure. You just nailed it right there. Thank you!!!

                                        I was thinking about the 230 years, we are such a baby country compared and everyone says we are going to fail as the ?king of the hills? we haven't been around long enough for that to happen give it another 1000 years or so maybe even longer, but your kids and their kids an their kids and their kids and so on will be able to enjoy the freedom to become a millionaire if they work hard. As long as the socialists don't take over and start taking our money and redistributing it to people who don't want to work hard.

                                        Anyway I want to thank you for a well said post!!!
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                                        • Webby
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 14956

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                          It is apparent (from your babbling, lying, BS posts) that he is superior to you.
                                          Did I address you??
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                                          • Webby
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14956

                                            #22
                                            Dammit Greg - you must have hit on a senstive subject with this thread title

                                            The trolls have arrived to spout shit - but hell, it 4th July - so better give them a break to spew their one-liners of hatred and bullshit
                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                            • Rui
                                              web
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 9533

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              None of this is true, depending on how smart you are.

                                              You can join the military for four years and get some of the benefits for the rest of your life - GI bill and interest free home loans.

                                              I did four years in the Marines, got my education, got my interest free home loan, and by the time I got married I was able to pay cash for it. Since then I've stayed away from credit - no real need for it unless your buying a car or a house.
                                              So this what you have to do over there?

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