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  • Zester
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 5344
    #1

    relationship between system admin and perl programmer

    ok, in my day job, I program perl.
    they just hired a new system admin, which won't let me run .cgi or .pl scripts before I tell him exactly what that script does.
    after he approves, he gives runs the chmod command to enable me to run the file.
    is this normal?
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    • Webby
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 14956
      #2
      Sounds like you need a working environment to make any progress??

      Na.. all bollocks unless that is some genuine and valid reason for this stuff.

      PS.. Hate to say it, but does your SysAdmin have a clue?? Surprising how many don't - even in large corps.
      Last edited by Webby; 07-03-2006, 11:44 PM.
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        • Doctor Dre
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          • Jan 2001
          • 51692
          #3
          The reason is that he simply don't trust you. On the other hand, it seems like he's gonna do his job proprely so deal with it ;)
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            • flashbang
              Confirmed User
              • May 2006
              • 767
              #4
              I am curious how you can install but not chmod your own file? He disabled the chmod command? LOL



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                • Zester
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5344
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                  The reason is that he simply don't trust you. On the other hand, it seems like he's gonna do his job proprely so deal with it ;)
                  i'm known for being the most trust worthy programmer in the company, no way he is choosing by that....besides isn't the system admin suppose to make it possible for the users of the servers? even if some of them are programmers?
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                    • WiredGuy
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 34515
                      #6
                      Sounds reasonable to me, his job is security of your network and he's ensuring your scripts aren't a weak point.
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                        • darksoul
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                          • Apr 2002
                          • 4997
                          #7
                          Originally posted by flashbang
                          I am curious how you can install but not chmod your own file? He disabled the chmod command? LOL
                          he probably has only ftp access which has chmod disabled.
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                            • Zester
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5344
                              #8
                              Originally posted by flashbang
                              I am curious how you can install but not chmod your own file? He disabled the chmod command? LOL
                              no, I used to have putty access before this guy decides no one should have it.
                              so what basicaly happens: I send him the file via email, along with the purpose.
                              I edit and run it on my local computer first so it should be a one time upload when I email it.
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                                • darksoul
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                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 4997
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                  Sounds reasonable to me, his job is security of your network and he's ensuring your scripts aren't a weak point.
                                  WG
                                  that could be his reason.
                                  But his thinking is flawed.
                                  He doesn't trust the code the programmer coded yet he trusts what the programmer says
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                                    • Zester
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                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 5344
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by darksoul
                                      that could be his reason.
                                      But his thinking is flawed.
                                      He doesn't trust the code the programmer coded yet he trusts what the programmer says
                                      the logic of it is that as a system admin he knows what is more risky, knowing that file managment(moving, deleting etc.) can more of a risk than reading a text file.
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                                        • flashbang
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 767
                                          #11
                                          Next time upload him a root kit, tell him its a dewerks accounting script

                                          Then his job is what dewerks spelled backwards is and its back to normal.



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                                            • goldrush
                                              Will trade SE hits for CJ hits
                                              • Apr 2006
                                              • 661
                                              #12
                                              Quit the job and work adult full time, if you're a decent programmer there tons of money just waiting to be made.
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                                                • darksoul
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                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                  • 4997
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Zester
                                                  the logic of it is that as a system admin he knows what is more risky, knowing that file managment(moving, deleting etc.) can more of a risk than reading a text file.
                                                  well, you'd be surprised how moving a file can be manipulated to delete a file or do anything else nasty.
                                                  Does he check the code for input validation and other stuff ?
                                                  I doubt.
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                                                    • themanager
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                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                      • 508
                                                      #14
                                                      they are just putting system so no interlupping with your works. Don't get wrong.

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                                                        • fuzebox
                                                          making it rain
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 22359
                                                          #15
                                                          Bitch him out the first time and set a precident so it won't happen again... Having been both a sysadmin and a programmer (often at the same time) having full access sped everything up tremendously... I'd be hella pissed if I had to deal with a loser admin like that.

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                                                            • WiredGuy
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34515
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by darksoul
                                                              that could be his reason.
                                                              But his thinking is flawed.
                                                              He doesn't trust the code the programmer coded yet he trusts what the programmer says
                                                              That's true, he should be reviewing the code before it goes onto a live server
                                                              WG
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                                                                • Webby
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 14956
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                  Bitch him out the first time and set a precident so it won't happen again... Having been both a sysadmin and a programmer (often at the same time) having full access sped everything up tremendously... I'd be hella pissed if I had to deal with a loser admin like that.
                                                                  Inclined to agree fuzebox - it can be kinda impractical to work like that. Ain't got time to waste on shit.
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                                                                    • webjoker
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                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                      • 367
                                                                      #18
                                                                      http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+administrator
                                                                      hehe

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                                                                        • Webby
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 14956
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by webjoker
                                                                          http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+administrator
                                                                          Nice one!!
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                                                                            • woj
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                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 47880
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by webjoker
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                                                                                • Zester
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                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 5344
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  why isn't this the way it works with all the purchased hosts on the web? why isn't any of this shit happen on my webair account?
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