I believe that the 90 year old man that you refer to is Yip Man. And I dont think that any of the gound fighters would have gotten close enough to him to hurt him. He beat the crap out of Bruce lee in a training exercise, and he was 88 at the time.
@Anthony : I did not say that Kalashnikov Invented Sambo, I said that the first Official "SpetsNaz" sambo school was formed by him in 1947. He Even Made the RPK model of his AK-47 for the troops in that school. Thus the 67th Devision Combat Sambo School In Moscow is still reffering to the sambo they teach as "SAMo aBarona Bez Orughiya sistemi Kalashnikova" = SAMBO of the Kalashnikov System. And I did not try to diss BGG I was just stating a fact. And I do believe that both sports are great.
@RS : Ne chego oni ne znayut...
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@Anthony : I did not say that Kalashnikov Invented Sambo, I said that the first Official "SpetsNaz" sambo school was formed by him in 1947. He Even Made the RPK model of his AK-47 for the troops in that school. Thus the 67th Devision Combat Sambo School In Moscow is still reffering to the sambo they teach as "SAMo aBarona Bez Orughiya sistemi Kalashnikova" = SAMBO of the Kalashnikov System. And I did not try to diss BGG I was just stating a fact. And I do believe that both sports are great.
@RS : Ne chego oni ne znayut...
Sorry Fah King, I mistook you. Do you have reference material online that I can research and get up to speed on? As you can tell, I like to stay on top of things.
He knows enough to know that the world doesn't think much of sambo no matter what its history is. thats why it can exist for 1/2 a century and be completely ignored as a "fighting style"
Sorry Fah King, I mistook you. Do you have reference material online that I can research and get up to speed on? As you can tell, I like to stay on top of things.
Yes I believe I had a link somewhere in my bookmarks I gonna try to find it for you. It was a Yugoslavian sambo coach who told me about this, he had a lot of info on his web site, and it was all in english.
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Yes I believe I had a link somewhere in my bookmarks I gonna try to find it for you. It was a Yugoslavian sambo coach who told me about this, he had a lot of info on his web site, and it was all in english.
SWEET! One of my best friends is a Sambo guy, and most of my info is from him.
@Anthony : I did not say that Kalashnikov Invented Sambo, I said that the first Official "SpetsNaz" sambo school was formed by him in 1947. He Even Made the RPK model of his AK-47 for the troops in that school. Thus the 67th Devision Combat Sambo School In Moscow is still reffering to the sambo they teach as "SAMo aBarona Bez Orughiya sistemi Kalashnikova" = SAMBO of the Kalashnikov System. And I did not try to diss BGG I was just stating a fact. And I do believe that both sports are great.
@RS : Ne chego oni ne znayut...
20 letni ushlepok iz Miami gde xueva tucha nelegal'nyx Brazilcev schitaet sebya za svoego..
Hey Anthony I added you to ICQ, cause Im going to bed now and will loose track of this thread but I still want to send you the link to the site once I find it
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Iraq war would be over, but the Iraqi's know Sambo.
OH YES they're all black belts in BJJ... BAHAHAHAHA
I love how you use excuses such as OH SAMBO THEY FALL ON THEIR BACK!!! Rickson would've armbarred the whole russian army... SAME WITH JUDO!!! If i remember correctly wasn't it Helio that got his arse handed by Kimura by a SUBMISSION? OH hang on Judo practitioners only throw people to the ground just like Sambo artists... They know nothing else about the ground game...
Hey Anthony I added you to ICQ, cause Im going to bed now and will loose track of this thread but I still want to send you the link to the site once I find it
OH YES they're all black belts in BJJ... BAHAHAHAHA
I love how you use excuses such as OH SAMBO THEY FALL ON THEIR BACK!!! Rickson would've armbarred the whole russian army... SAME WITH JUDO!!! If i remember correctly wasn't it Helio that got his arse handed by Kimura by a SUBMISSION? OH hang on Judo practitioners only throw people to the ground just like Sambo artists... They know nothing else about the ground game...
Once again you proved you're a nuthugger...
Dunefield,
I have never said I wasn't. But let's break this down for you.
Kimura the number one Judoka beat Helio. But Helio beat the number 2 and 3. Whhooops forgot that, or you didn't know, either one.
You can name call all you want, BJJ revolutionized fighting.
I have never said I wasn't. But let's break this down for you.
Kimura the number one Judoka beat Helio. But Helio beat the number 2 and 3. Whhooops forgot that, or you didn't know, either one.
You can name call all you want, BJJ revolutionized fighting.
You cannot argue that.
#1 BJJ NUT HUGGER!
BAHAHAHAHA BUT BUT Helio still lost? If BJJ was so grand by a style that only "THROWS" opponents he would of beaten him? After all Judo and Sambo are crap
Let me guess... Sakuraba was lucky to beat Royce as well?
And yes i can name as much as I want... Because you treat BJJ as some godlike status... Remember it's MIXED martial arts... Show some respect to the other styles...
20 letni ushlepok iz Miami gde xueva tucha nelegal'nyx Brazilcev schitaet sebya za svoego..
and who are you? you dont appear to know anything about what your talking about... so i can guess.... you're just one more idiot with a soviet-type mentality that has to argue about anything and everything just for the sake of arguing. you talk with a deep voice, yell when you talk, you pound your fist on the table, talk down to people and for the most part, i doubt you have american friends because everyone that knows you thinks your obnoxious.
BAHAHAHAHA BUT BUT Helio still lost? If BJJ was so grand by a style that only "THROWS" opponents he would of beaten him? After all Judo and Sambo are crap
Let me guess... Sakuraba was lucky to beat Royce as well?
And yes i can name as much as I want... Because you treat BJJ as some godlike status... Remember it's MIXED martial arts... Show some respect to the other styles...
Red Herrings Dunefield.
BJJ has proven itself against all comers before MMA.
It is why MMA became what it was.
Read the title, and argue again with me this point.
Please provide proof where I disrespected any MA other than Kung Fu, which is pretty dancing. Thanks.
BAHAHAHAHA BUT BUT Helio still lost? If BJJ was so grand by a style that only "THROWS" opponents he would of beaten him? After all Judo and Sambo are crap
helio is a frail little man in his 90's, moron.
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I'd like to comment, but I'm busy learning "paint fence" and "wax floor". Right after Miagi promises to teach me the super killer shit. We don't use any belts in Miagi Do Karate either and we don't exhibit, but we do fight Cobra Kais!
Well showing no respect to Kung Fu is just showing ignorance... Just because it's not effective in MMA doesn't mean it's utter crap... Not every Martial Art is based purely on combat...
Sounds like you're interested in proving you're a tough guy more than anything else...
Well showing no respect to Kung Fu is just showing ignorance... Just because it's not effective in MMA doesn't mean it's utter crap... Not every Martial Art is based purely on combat...
Sounds like you're interested in proving you're a tough guy more than anything else...
I made one comment about the myth of a 90 year old master being unbeatable and I'm calling it crap?! I put the dancing in my last post as a goad to you, now I understand.
One of my mates of old from Australia is a Kung Fu guy. Fucker scared the shit out of me, and nearly broke my wrist as we were doing drills at full force. I have a healthy respect for KF guys who do active resistance, SanShou, etc.
Please provide proof of my being a tough guy anywhere in this thread. Since you weren't able to find anything else in your earlier accusations.
I was there last week, it's where I met Glover and started training with him. Frank Mir trains there.
I could be wrong, but before MMA Sambo was mostly concerned with leglocks. When MMA came along they added a lot more to it to make it more competitive, and more power to them. They were smart, and a lot of those Russian guys with Sambo backgrounds are tough motherfuckers.
I would beat the holy godfuck out of yipman, whether I met him when he was 90 or 21, and I'm a not-particularly-tough BJJ blue belt. Kung Fu sucks. Pressure Point Fighting is a myth, and a stupid one. They've tried it, they got their asses kicked, what more do you need to know?
And martial arts should be about fucking someone up, PERIOD. It's not about avoiding the fight. That's called social skills. Martial Arts is what happens when you can't avoid the fight. If your martial art does not allow you to kill/maim/incapacitate you, then you're better off spending the time you spend training doing something more fun, like jacking off in front of your computer.
A fight on the street goes to the ground just like a fight in the ring does, because I'm going to do a single or double leg takedown and PUT you there whether you like it or not. That's what BJJ is all about baby...
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