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AFFILIATES ONLY! What makes a good affiliate program. what could make it better.

07-03-2006, 09:52 AM

AFFILIATES ONLY.

Sponsors spam your shit somewhere else. We know all of you think you have the best program so no need to post.

I am tossing around the idea of putting together an affiliate program.

AFFILIATES what would you want in an affiliate program.

There is the obvious of being paid, good quality content to advertise, tools to promote it, getting paid well, etc... but what in your opinion would make the best affiliate program out there ?

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07-03-2006, 09:54 AM

-Weekly payouts with epass, wires, check as options
-Fresh, exclusive content with hot models
-$35-$40 pps with incentives for whales

i buy massive xxx dating traffic.
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07-03-2006, 09:56 AM

Dont we always have this thread on the front page?

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07-03-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by CIVMatt

Dont we always have this thread on the front page?

i dont know, not something i was looking for before. Since you seem to have read a few similar post to this, care to post the most common things that affiliates were looking for ?

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07-03-2006, 10:01 AM

hi will, i actually joined your clickcash thing a year ago from all the numbers you were posting, but it was so confusing to me I never did anything with it. Dont know if that helps you.
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07-03-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Nismo

-Weekly payouts with epass, wires, check as options
-Fresh, exclusive content with hot models
-$35-$40 pps with incentives for whales

I hear people asking for epass a lot. I think that would be a requirement. thanks.

I am not a big fan of prizes and shit, wouldn't you guys rather more per signup instead of more chances to win shit ?

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07-03-2006, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by clickhappy

hi will, i actually joined your clickcash thing a year ago from all the numbers you were posting, but it was so confusing to me I never did anything with it. Dont know if that helps you.

this is totally different. teamclickcash is mainly a resource site for people using clickcash. I am limited on what i can offer since i do not own clickcash.

What i am asking here is if i started a membership site, like the millions of them out there what would it take to make it the best. Unlike most of the sponsor owners who shit on their affiliates, being an affiliate myself i know WE know what works the best. I have some ideas in mind but wanted feedback from other affiliates.

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07-03-2006, 10:05 AM

No traffic leaks..
No saturation..
No url on promo..
fhg on different domain than the site being promoted.. preferably a unique domain. I hate when I am linking a fhg to promote a paysite & the fhg is on the same domain,
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07-03-2006, 10:05 AM

good quality converting sites, that actully convert
i speicalise in solo models so for me, some of them
$30+ no bullshit pps
60%+ revshare
SUPPORT - must be immediate on icq, or answer their emails quick as fuck.
some quality free content for me to jack of to
free hosting over a small number of joins. (20 a month)
dont care about payments as long as i get the money
sites that keep the member recurring
nats affialte system
and a respected person to work for.

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07-03-2006, 10:06 AM

as far as prizes go, id prefer you saved the prize money and bumped up the rev. or pps

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07-03-2006, 10:10 AM

A sponsor that ACTIVELY optimizes the conversion of their promo materials and landing pages/conversion areas.

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07-03-2006, 10:11 AM

Hey Will, what was your ClickCash affiliate site again?

I wanted to push those guys and I was wondering if you had some hot Cam pictures for me to use.

I'm just a newbie.
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07-03-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by tranza

Hey Will, what was your ClickCash affiliate site again?

I wanted to push those guys and I was wondering if you had some hot Cam pictures for me to use.

www.teamclickcash.com send me an email if you have any problems. will at teamclickcash dot com

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07-03-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by scottybuzz

good quality converting sites, that actully convert
i speicalise in solo models so for me, some of them
$30+ no bullshit pps
60%+ revshare
SUPPORT - must be immediate on icq, or answer their emails quick as fuck.
some quality free content for me to jack of to
free hosting over a small number of joins. (20 a month)
dont care about payments as long as i get the money
sites that keep the member recurring
nats affialte system
and a respected person to work for.

Sorry i can't help but post this.... you said

Originally posted by scottybuzz

and a respected person to work for.

and you have epic cash in your sig ???

nats seems to be very popular so i would think that would be a must.

Free access for all affiliates who send over 20 joins a month ? might as well let the person be a free member of what t hey are advertising ;)

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07-03-2006, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by scottybuzz

as far as prizes go, id prefer you saved the prize money and bumped up the rev. or pps

Personally I can't stand free prizes, to me it's a scam. Take money out of the pockets of the people who make the site the most money so they can pay for that shit, then 1 person wins the prize, all the other affiliates lost money. but they sponsor is happy, they get great exposure for doing it, at your expense.

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07-03-2006, 10:33 AM

Does webmasters actually wanna be members themselfs? I never even thougt about joining.. ever...

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07-03-2006, 11:06 AM

there has to be more items on the wish list... anyone else ?

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07-03-2006, 11:58 AM

bump.... so everyone here is 100%happy with the affiliates that are out there ?

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07-03-2006, 03:40 PM

amazing how much feed back this is generating.

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07-03-2006, 04:31 PM

This goes without saying, but something that actually CONVERTS!!! Surprisingly enough, this is quite rare.
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07-03-2006, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by scottybuzz

good quality converting sites, that actully convert
i speicalise in solo models so for me, some of them
$30+ no bullshit pps
60%+ revshare
SUPPORT - must be immediate on icq, or answer their emails quick as fuck.
some quality free content for me to jack of to
free hosting over a small number of joins. (20 a month)
dont care about payments as long as i get the money
sites that keep the member recurring
nats affialte system
and a respected person to work for.

this about covers whats needed.

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07-03-2006, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Thomas1007

this about covers whats needed.

what about an affiliate feedback forum where affiliates can ask for certain tools, or niched sites and the sponsor actually LISTENS to them and makes it?

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07-03-2006, 07:18 PM

What about showing how much the top100 affiliates make. Wouldnt name names of course so no one had to worry about people knowing how much they make. would that be a plus for a site ? not many show this info. I am curious personally how much the top guy is making f or each program. I bet some would surprise people, some being a lot less then they thought some a lot more then they thought.

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07-03-2006, 07:21 PM

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07-03-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

No traffic leaks..

fhg on different domain than the site being promoted.. preferably a unique domain. I hate when I am linking a fhg to promote a paysite & the fhg is on the same domain,

Any particular reason why ?
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07-03-2006, 07:27 PM

Some great points here.
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07-03-2006, 07:28 PM

the affiliate's area should be like a webmaster candystore.

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07-03-2006, 08:30 PM

free hosting

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07-03-2006, 09:00 PM

give me more... what do you guys REALLY want.

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07-04-2006, 12:08 AM

Here's what I'd like from an affiliate program:

When it comes to webmaster tools, I prefer quality over quantity.

I'd like to see some good FHG. Descriptions available in at least 2 sizes (short and long). Spell check and use proper grammer. Don't select random pictures/videos. I hate FHG with bad pics all out of order. No vidcaps. Use digital stills. Hand crop the thumbs. Make them easy to export with various options. And I don't want to see the exact same 20 pics used over and over again on 50 different templates.

A good selection of banners in various sizes. Some softcore banners. And some banners with small file sizes. Only use the site's name, not the URL.

Good PPS payouts on console-free options. I also like the idea of combined PPS/Rev payments. Something like $20 PPS + 25% of all rebills. Weekly payouts with no minimum (or low min).

I like hosted blogs/TGPs with affiliate codes. If you have a hosted blog, update it regularly.

That's all I can think of right now.
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07-04-2006, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by will76

there has to be more items on the wish list... anyone else ?

Fulfilling my wish above will make YOU the biggest player in your field... if you're ever to pull it off.

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07-04-2006, 12:18 AM

rss, xml feeds for blogs
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07-04-2006, 12:30 AM

One more thing I like is when sponsors offer their affiliates premium webmaster tools. For example, I've seen some programs offering subscriptions to DreamSubmitter and Chameleon.

After using some different tools in the past, I'd given up on galleries. But a sponsor offered to pay for Chameleon, so I figured I might as well give it a try. Now I've gotten back into gallery submissions.
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07-04-2006, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Buncha

One more thing I like is when sponsors offer their affiliates premium webmaster tools. For example, I've seen some programs offering subscriptions to DreamSubmitter and Chameleon.

After using some different tools in the past, I'd given up on galleries. But a sponsor offered to pay for Chameleon, so I figured I might as well give it a try. Now I've gotten back into gallery submissions.

You know the attitude of some site owners here would reply to your post by saying " what the fuck you want us to hold your hand and do all the work for you ? " lol. But i agree with you. In your case that worked out perfect giving you something for free to use got you back into that type of advertising and i am sure that resulted in making that sponsor more money.

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07-04-2006, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

Fulfilling my wish above will make YOU the biggest player in your field... if you're ever to pull it off.

No kiddin, thinking of signup pages... How many sites out there use the same damn signup page for years and never change it or give you others to choose from.

People really underestimate how important the signup page is. It IS the most important page of the site. You can fuck up a signup page soo many ways.

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07-04-2006, 07:13 AM

1. Great resources.

2. Affiliate forum.

3. At least a weekly update from the owner. I like to know how things are going and it assures me there are people there.

4. Top 100 affiliate incomes like you said, it's good for those who are curious and great for people who want to compete and get to the top!

5. Simplicity. Hard to explain this one... but I like to get right to promoting. I don't want to have to click a bunch of shit to get to my links.

6. Weekly epassporte and/or check payments.

I agree with your take on the contest idea, it's ridiculous. Keep it at a business level. Look at ARS, they have a damn department store! :P

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07-04-2006, 07:14 AM

in addition to, or emphasizing what was already said

RSS feeds for blogs that have at least one large image and a good paragraph of text.

epasspore payments

multiple payment options for joins. meaning, use NATS first off. The go beyond the typical epoch / ccbill and add in the alternate pay methods. texting payments in, etc.

a closed program to fight saturation. make it invite or application only
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07-04-2006, 07:48 AM

Unique Niches. Even combos of niches.. Blondes with small tits... Blondes with large tits.. something like that (just examples, I don't know how those would sell).

Also, stick to the niche you're promoting on your tour. If Granny site, don't put 40 year old ladies on it. If Chubby, don't put 400lb girls.. etc. Nothing worse than a sponsor who doesn't know the niche he's promoting.
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07-04-2006, 07:54 AM

- Free content to use to promote (not crappy stuff)

- Multiple linking options (like being able to link straight to the join page)

- A few different tours per site which have been tested and known to convert traffic

- A way to have it so there are different link codes for console free, 1 console, 2 consoles etc.. Would give webmasters more options. May seem useless to some, but still would be a cool idea. The payouts would be kind of like

console free - $25 per signup
1 console - $27.50 per signup
2 consoles - $30 per signup
all consoles - $35 per signup

- FHGs for movie and pic galleries with a download link to a zip file for all FHGs or just the ones you want. (this is for those that don't always want to make their own galleries so they would just use the FHG, swap the content and upload it to their server

- Free hosting

- Promo text that has been tested and is known to make people click. Not just run of the mill shit like you see around in many affiliate programs.

- Thourough description of each site so the webmaster can use that for promotion.

there's more, but my brain is still asleep since I just got up lol

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07-04-2006, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by patmccrotch

in addition to, or emphasizing what was already said

RSS feeds for blogs that have at least one large image and a good paragraph of text.

epasspore payments

multiple payment options for joins. meaning, use NATS first off. The go beyond the typical epoch / ccbill and add in the alternate pay methods. texting payments in, etc.

a closed program to fight saturation. make it invite or application only

invite only idea is interesting. Funny most owners whore on here 24/7 an invite only would be a nice change of pace.. Kinda what I am doing with TCC for the time being. But when you said this it made me think about this concept more....

instead of excluding people and making it arbitrary, what if you let *most* people in BUT if they couldn't maintain say 5 sales a month or some min level of sales, they are out.

What that be a good idea or bad ?

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07-04-2006, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by vanillaice

Unique Niches. Even combos of niches.. .

LOL first thing that came to mind was " Midgets with big dicks fucking fat chicks" .

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07-04-2006, 09:58 AM

How is this so far.

0. Quality Sites with great content/ variety of niches.
1. Weekly payouts with options of payment, check, wire, epass, etc.
2. Use NATS
3. Alternative billing methods other then ccbill/ epoch.
4. pps and revshare. incentives for affiliates who send lots of sales.
5. Great Support - ICQ 24/7 / weekly mail updates, fast email replies.
6. Easy Simple to use affiliate area. Easy linking and linking flexability.
7. Promos and signup pages that are updated on a regular basis, and a nice variety to choose from.
8. free hosted everything (sites, TGP, zip files for content to make your own gals, etc..)
9. RSS / XML feeds for blogs.
10. Provide affiliates premium advertising tools, like submitters, etc.
11. Affiliate forum/feedback area.
12. No Bullshit contest / prizes give that money back to the people who get the signups.
13. Free members access to affiliates who send more then 20 joins.
14. Top 100 affiliate list (no names).

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07-04-2006, 10:45 AM

Easy to use webmaster area: Link codes are easy to generate, stats are clean and straightforward, can be accessed for any date range and show referring urls, campaign tracking, etc... (personally I like NATS but whatever). No porn necessary on the webmaster backend, I hate that shit, makes it a pain checking stats at the airport or wherever.

Webmaster defineable pricepoints: I like the programs doing this, letting you choose between $1/$4.95/full month links or whatever depending on your traffic.

Weekly payouts with little delay (programs that pay out a month behind really bother me... 2 weeks is reasonable).

Support who gets back to you quickly, especially in regards to accounting/payout issues.

Tracking: Both cookies and html link tracking, cookies should be set for a decent amount of time (no 1 day bullshit), although no need for 6 months (If the surfer is returning in 6 months obviously the affiliate didn't do a very good selling job in the first place).

No need for contests, pictures of ferraris, naked girls, names with "bucks" or "cash" etc... Just provide a program that makes money
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07-04-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by will76

what about an affiliate feedback forum where affiliates can ask for certain tools, or niched sites and the sponsor actually LISTENS to them and makes it?

thats a good idea, having someone to communicate and they actually give a shit about what your asking would be a bonus.

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07-04-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by fuzebox

Webmaster defineable pricepoints: I like the programs doing this, letting you choose between $1/$4.95/full month links or whatever depending on your traffic.

Thats a good idea. Give the affiliate different styles of signup pages and for each style you can select the payment options you want to use.

Originally posted by fuzebox

No need for contests, pictures of ferraris, naked girls, names with "bucks" or "cash" etc... Just provide a program that makes money

Wow I am surprised at how many people feel the same way that I do about contest/free gifts shit. As previous posted i think contest are just marketing ploys that the sponsor uses to try to attrach new people (noobs mostly), at the expense of the affiliates that are actually make the site the money.
Say site xyz gives away a Hummer, cost about 60K. Some bumb who sends 2 sales a week wins it. Now that 60K could have been given back in the form of higher payouts. So the guy who sends in 100 signups a week gets nothing and some bumb gets rewarded with a 60K hummer for sending in 2 signups a week. Way to take care of the affiliates that take care of you.

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07-04-2006, 03:48 PM

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07-04-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

No url on promo..
fhg on different domain than the site being promoted.. preferably a unique domain. I hate when I am linking a fhg to promote a paysite & the fhg is on the same domain,

wtf...

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07-04-2006, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Rui

wtf...

this thread is funny

I think this thread has some good ideas in it. I wonder if sponsor owners are taking notes or just laughing at us silly affiliates, what the hell do we know, we are nobody.

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07-04-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by will76

I think this thread has some good ideas in it. I wonder if sponsor owners are taking notes or just laughing at us silly affiliates, what the hell do we know, we are nobody.

I don't think they are laughing, but I do know that Sponsors and Affiliates existed way before this thread and everyone's made a TON of money. However this thread is useful.

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07-04-2006, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by Jamie

I don't think they are laughing, but I do know that Sponsors and Affiliates existed way before this thread and everyone's made a TON of money. However this thread is useful.

i dont think everyone has made a ton of money.

most of the site owners here thnk that affiliates need them, they think the affiliates are stupid.... and the affiliates are the ones making these guys rich. It's sad

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