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Old 10-09-2008, 10:03 AM  
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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz View Post
So........

Is this the official state of our industry?

"give it all away for free, to generate huge traffic, to direct towards 'other sites' - like dating, webcam, penis enlargement, etc...."

this is the much talked about 'adapt or die' theory?

so what happens when, to make money, everyone has only this business model to rely on? when we reach saturation, with every type of niche/fetish each represented on a dozen mega-tubes (ya, i saw the bestiality tube posted on this forum)? and of course about a million illegal/stolen-content tubes offshore?

will there be any need for any paysites after that happens? And after that will there be any need for content producers, other than a few mega-sweatshops (literally)?

ya, 'tubes won't kill porn, just like nothing before has killed it' but... you WILL kill the paysite side of it - and that takes a lot of independant producers out of it, and a lot of fresh content, not to mention innovation.

So... what happens when this prophecy comes true and everyone saturates the interwebs with a zillion dating sites in an 'adapt or die' frenzy - do you give away the porn+dating to get the traffic to go to the cams?

And then a zillion cam sites saturate, so do you give away the porn+dating+cams to sell ??what?? (maybe... hardlight holographic babes in your living room, maybe?)

pretty soon 95% of the 'paying customers' are satisfied with what they get for free, and everyone is fighting it out for the 5% leftovers, those who demand that they only watch the newest and greatest technology.

is this what we really want? You all do know that tubes are unnecessary don't ya? You all know that if all graphic content was locked up in member only areas that exactly just as many people would still go looking for porn on the internet? You do know that we would be getting a chance to convert the 95% and not fight for the 5% (torrents won't stop, but at least our customer base would be HUGE, compared to what it is now)

I just can't grasp how 'exclusive and highly profitable' got changed to 'free and worthless (other than upsell advertising value)' - and y'all think that its o.k.

ok - i can see how dating sites and cam sites think this is all good - but your day will come.

it is my opinion that you slaughter the golden goose - it is also my opinion that you just don't care.

i am boggled
Its sad but it is happening more and more and I dont think cams and dating or poker will ever get saturated. Look at AFF they have a large chunk of the dating market yet they are still selling memberships and making money. I also think that social porn sites will do far better in the future than membership programs. Tube site are not going to go away as I see it, they are just gonna evolve and get bigger and better. It is also not a matter of what we want its a matter of what is happening now, as for the paysite I think a lot of them will close down in the future but for the content producer they will adapt and shoot for whatever makes them money. If you take a look at the mainstream tube sites, they to do not upsell memberships they sell ad space yet they still keep going and geting bigger. Its sad but its true and until we face the fact that tubes are here to stay and are giving out more and more free content a lot of webmasters/program owners are gonna loose a lot of money or just disapear.
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