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Old 10-08-2008, 07:40 PM  
PR_Sebas
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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz View Post
So........

Is this the official state of our industry?

"give it all away for free, to generate huge traffic, to direct towards 'other sites' - like dating, webcam, penis enlargement, etc...."

this is the much talked about 'adapt or die' theory?

so what happens when, to make money, everyone has only this business model to rely on? when we reach saturation, with every type of niche/fetish each represented on a dozen mega-tubes (ya, i saw the bestiality tube posted on this forum)? and of course about a million illegal/stolen-content tubes offshore?

will there be any need for any paysites after that happens? And after that will there be any need for content producers, other than a few mega-sweatshops (literally)?

ya, 'tubes won't kill porn, just like nothing before has killed it' but... you WILL kill the paysite side of it - and that takes a lot of independant producers out of it, and a lot of fresh content, not to mention innovation.

So... what happens when this prophecy comes true and everyone saturates the interwebs with a zillion dating sites in an 'adapt or die' frenzy - do you give away the porn+dating to get the traffic to go to the cams?

And then a zillion cam sites saturate, so do you give away the porn+dating+cams to sell ??what?? (maybe... hardlight holographic babes in your living room, maybe?)

pretty soon 95% of the 'paying customers' are satisfied with what they get for free, and everyone is fighting it out for the 5% leftovers, those who demand that they only watch the newest and greatest technology.

is this what we really want? You all do know that tubes are unnecessary don't ya? You all know that if all graphic content was locked up in member only areas that exactly just as many people would still go looking for porn on the internet? You do know that we would be getting a chance to convert the 95% and not fight for the 5% (torrents won't stop, but at least our customer base would be HUGE, compared to what it is now)

I just can't grasp how 'exclusive and highly profitable' got changed to 'free and worthless (other than upsell advertising value)' - and y'all think that its o.k.

ok - i can see how dating sites and cam sites think this is all good - but your day will come.

it is my opinion that you slaughter the golden goose - it is also my opinion that you just don't care.

i am boggled
Not sure if you're accusing us of running tube sites that give away tonnes of free content? I don't think you are but, if thats what you think you're way off base. At least in my case. None of the videos on my tube site are over 1:40 and none of them ever will be. What I believe halfpint was talking about was the future of tube sites.

I agree with how halfpint said -- tube requests are getting longer and longer first it was 30 sec - 1:30 now its 5 - 10 mins clips that some webmasters are asking for. -- THAT will help kill the industry. Not saying it's the only thing that will kill it but, it will be one of the main factors.

I just think that if ALL (and i know its impossible) but if ALL tube sites had videos that were under 2 minutes then ALL tube sites, paysites and any other porn sites would convert alot better. The thing that will hurt the industry most is the full length tube sites that give away the farm just to make sales on dating and cam sites. If one day we can get rid of those then I think online porn will be more profitable than it ever was. Even more profitable than the late 90's early 00's.

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