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FACT: Debates are meaningless and won't change a single mind
It seems to me that everyone already has their mind made up.
Whenever someone wants to "discuss politics" with you, it's not because they're interested in what you have to say, it's because they want you to listen to what they have to say.
There is no changing of minds in today's electorate, IMHO.
If tomorrow John McCain was caught sodomizing a spotted owl, the spin machine would find a way to make it Obama or Pelosi or Reid's fault, his supporters would find a way for it to not matter and still support him.
If tomorrow Barack Obama was caught clubbing a baby seal (that Jeremiah Wright was sodomizing at the same time), the spin machine would blame it on the failed policies of George Bush and his supporters would find a way for it to not matter and still support him.
All of this shit every day about debates and bailouts and lipstick on a pig and god damn America is only played in the media to rile up the base to motivate them to show up on election day.
Arguing politics here, or anywhere else, is really a pointless exercise because people aren't reading the thread because they're interested in a lively discussion and have an open mind....they want to call you an idiot for the views you hold and try to convince you that their views are the correct ones.
I think that since about 1994 our electorate has been divided in a way it hasn't been since the issue of the day was slavery. IMHO it's likely to stay that way for a long time.
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