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Shhhh dont blow the illusion.Originally posted by 12clicks
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That bill sounds backwards. Why not track ALL urls that ANY customer of an ISP visited, and work backwards from any CP site you find?
Make too much sense? Nobody thought of it? "protecting children" really means "procuring votes"?
Some of the things I dont understand at all from either party.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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hilarious.... hope everybody has a colo deal overseasComment
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i did bushComment
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See Sig.....business is going well, really well I may addOriginally posted by Mike33
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Couple 2257 mentions here, I just posted a 2257 Update thread to hopefully get some information going about how this affected the industry since it went into effect, I'd like to get some perspectivesComment
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jesus.. I think labeling is wrong, cause it just sticks us all in one barrell with "shoot me" written on our foreheads, but at the same time if I were a parent I would appreciate a porn site to be identified as such so I can block em. Thin line between free speech and societal responsibility..
But all this is moot since it will only affect US webmasters and it will just make the damn foreigners that much more money and traffic when they completely ignore the new US laws.
Imagine a porn industry run by Germans, Asians, and Mexicans.. Lots of Chicks spurting diahreah sucking off donkeys while some nazi craps on their face.
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Makes ya think to the WWII right? Adolf also had a thing for labelsOriginally posted by gleemjesus.. I think labeling is wrong, cause it just sticks us all in one barrell with "shoot me" written on our foreheads, but at the same time if I were a parent I would appreciate a porn site to be identified as such so I can block em. Thin line between free speech and societal responsibility..
But all this is moot since it will only affect US webmasters and it will just make the damn foreigners that much more money and traffic when they completely ignore the new US laws.
Imagine a porn industry run by Germans, Asians, and Mexicans.. Lots of Chicks spurting diahreah sucking off donkeys while some nazi craps on their face.
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I couldnt agree more. you dont see europeans complaining about it. nudity is all over the place there and everyone is just fine.Originally posted by phypon
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Originally posted by mardigrasHow about paying attention to the present.
How blind does one have to be to not see that a whole plethora of base rallying issues are being paraded to not only placate the county's conservatives up until election time, but to not lose the chance to take advantage of numbers they could potentially not have after elections? They are making up lost ground with "the base" and the smallest bit of "conservatism" written into law will secure votes from some who may be drifting
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John Ashcroft had very similar sights on internet porn as Gonzales but it went on the back-burner after 9/11. You don't have to take anyone's words for it, go back and dig up what he said.
As far as what is happening now, I'm surprised if anyone is surprised, Gonzales has been very public about his intentions all along. Most of what they are trying to do now we disccussed here at GFY 7, 8 months ago.
Dude, are you actually trying to discuss this with someone like the guy you quoted? He's a pornographer, or at least pretends to be, who blindly supports the Bush administration on nearly every issue he can cram into his child sized brain. There is no reasoning with people like this, don't waste your time. Even the most bulletproof reasoning will bounce right off of people like this and they'll revert to their "talking points". For example, whenever industry people are discussing the hell being brought down on us by this administration, the sheep "talking point" is to say that democrats are just as bad against porn as republicans. You'll see it in EVERY thread on this subject by the same 15 or 20 token GFY republicans who don't know their asses from the prison cell xanax was in. Obviously it's completely false and has no basis in reality, but that's not what matters. To these people, as long as they can say SOMETHING that allows them to justify their support of these maniacs in their own heads, they're happy.
What I'm saying is, don't waste your time. If these people were reasonable or had the slightest shred of common sense, they wouldn't be pornographers who support Christian conservatives in the first place. That's like homosexual Jews for Hitler.Comment
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Gore would be spending most of his time on the environmental issues, no time for Porn assults.Originally posted by LycanthropeComment
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Originally posted by RogerV
Too many Christians.
No wonder the pilgrims were persecuted in Europe. They were trying to force everyone else to live by their fucked up sense of morality!
All we need to do is persecute these bastards like they're trying to do to us, and hopefully they're run to fucking Canada or some shit.Comment
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Who the fuck said the net was for kids?
I'm sick of everything being reduced to the lowest common denominator or having to be child proof.
Gun advocates are forced to defend ALL gun regulations just to keep legislation from slowly taking away every gun. Stories about children using their parents guns are the rallying point. The latest ploy .... every trigger has to have a child-proof safety mechanism.
You can't smoke in a strip-club ... You can't smoke in a bar/restaurant. All logical arguments about freedom of choice and the right to open a business in America went out the window when "child safety/second hand smoke" became part of the issue ..... (the owner of our local cigar bar was told to loose his investment and close his business)
Our state has routine roadblocks to make sure children are in safety-seats ... Those of us without kids are then asked if our cars can be searched!
Tough anti c/p laws are on the books for offenders. SO FIND AND PROSECUTE THEM! Instead law abiding, tax paying business owners are being regulated out of business.
This thread is NOT to argue about guns or smoking. Or porn. It's to show the link between adult Americans ... issues they feel strongly about, choices they are by law allowed to make .... and how "for the protection of children" laws are rammed down our throats and freedom is lost.
Who the fuck said the net was for kids?
Make all internet access password controlled from the users computer. PERIOD! It is then a parents choice to allow access. Special "kid" domains could be available as an option.
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I've been in the business in full force since 1998 also and this is by far the largest attack on adult from what I can remember.Originally posted by Evil-Dan
I know the Regan years were bad, but then Clinton was in power for 8 years so it was all fine until the last 6 years.
I fear for another 4 years after this term is over. That may be the final nail in the coffin for many american companies. Everyone will be moving operations as far outside the US as they can find.Comment
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Please don't send them to Canada, we don't want them!Originally posted by Mr. SoulComment
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i knew i loved you Lori, now im sure.Originally posted by The Adult BrokerComment
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Originally posted by Mr. Soul
When I participate in threads such as this I know I am not going to change cemented minds, but each time an issue is debated (although the outcome may be the same) there are people who learn more about the issue than they knew before, including myself
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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Ok, Mexico.
Or maybe we can just ship them off to the Marianas or something.Comment
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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
agree 100% Dave. It'd going to be tougher and tougher, especially given the new legislation being proposed for isp's who can determine to shut down any operation they choose based on content decency (something they again, get to determine).Comment
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They dont give a fuck about the Children if they did they would fix the school systems and feed the starving children around the world if they really cared. Oh but wait thats what the smart people are doing like bill gates and warren. Botton line no child should ever have to starve to death period I dont care what country they are from. the world is a much smaller place now. With all the information available via (the Internet) people still turn a blind eye. crazy
This is just straight brain washing and control of the population by censorship
the sheep will always follow. they dont know how to take care of there children or think for themselves. this is why 1% of the population control 99%Comment
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moving offshore does not offer any protection if you are an american citizen. you still are expected to adhere to US law when abroad. of course there are ways around this like having a partner in another country who is willing to paper everything in his name.Comment
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I don't think it's about porn...it's about the New World Order taking control of the internet. The alternative media and 911 truth movement is under attack. Most people are getting their news propaganda free online and they don't want that.
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Not 100% true... You can smoke pot legally in California... Pot is illegal on a federal level... go figure...Originally posted by Platinum Dave
You can cross the border illegally and work just fine in California.... go figure...Comment
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people trying to put newsworthy enough stuff to get the free advertising for votes, nothing more
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Originally posted by L-PinkI'm sick of everything being reduced to the lowest common denominator or having to be child proof.
Gun advocates are forced to defend ALL gun regulations just to keep legislation from slowly taking away every gun. Stories about children using their parents guns are the rallying point. The latest ploy .... every trigger has to have a child-proof safety mechanism.
You can't smoke in a strip-club ... You can't smoke in a bar/restaurant. All logical arguments about freedom of choice and the right to open a business in America went out the window when "child safety/second hand smoke" became part of the issue ..... (the owner of our local cigar bar was told to loose his investment and close his business)
Our state has routine roadblocks to make sure children are in safety-seats ... Those of us without kids are then asked if our cars can be searched!
Tough anti c/p laws are on the books for offenders. SO FIND AND PROSECUTE THEM! Instead law abiding, tax paying business owners are being regulated out of business.
This thread is NOT to argue about guns or smoking. Or porn. It's to show the link between adult Americans ... issues they feel strongly about, choices they are by law allowed to make .... and how "for the protection of children" laws are rammed down our throats and freedom is lost.
Who the fuck said the net was for kids?
Make all internet access password controlled from the users computer. PERIOD! It is then a parents choice to allow access. Special "kid" domains could be available as an option.
That is the best and truest post I've seen in this thread! YOU, sir , are absolutely fucking rightComment
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Yea brain washing the population, who else did that? Oh yea the Nazi's...Originally posted by RogerV
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What industry basically started the internet? Adult
What industry keeps inventing all the new technology for the net? Adult
What industry is bigger than the Major Sports and Motion Picture Industries put toghter ? Adult
Where does Comcast, Cox, and almost all the Cable and Sat Providers make a good part of their Profit? Adult
Where do hotels make the most profit? Adult
Tehre would be a HUGE tax loss, job loss and impact on the US Ecomony if adult was wiped out.
Im really sure this industry is not going anywhere, there will be a few hurdles to jump, a few speedbumps to deal with, and some arrests. But all in all this stuff is protected under the Constitution, and no matter what bush does he cant change the constituion and we will prevail. And if we dont, we move offshore and pay alot less taxes. One way or another Adult is not going anywhere, if it did the internet would implode. All bandwith providers, hosts, software companies and such rely on adult to make sure they can keep prices low, since adult companies use the most resources on the net.Comment
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Insert time line here.. lolOriginally posted by Platinum Dave
Thats what they said when aschcroft was in office 8 years ago and that is the same shit people were screaming when bush got elected in 2004...
i would bet there are more sites online now more then ever. I bet someone in 10 years will be saying " look at what is going on, in 2 more years there wont be any more adult sites left online" .ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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We need to clean as many of them out as we can in the mid-term elections. Get them out of the house or congress. THat is key.Originally posted by Platinum DaveComment
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Originally posted by SinisterStudios
like they really care ....
Ask the casinos operators and processors how they feel ...I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
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Thank goodness I'm Canadian!Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Still, I'm not very worried. They can't even enforce 2257 and their popularity is in steep decline. This is just a desperate stunt to impress their base constituents.
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you have to watch out for this one, some of the Dems can be worse then the GOP, allot of the Dems are now courting the church's, giving speaches at churches and such... they may just enact some really stupid hardline laws against porn just to get re-elected.
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You should be right. You may be right. But if so, why are so few of us doing anything whatsoever to keep minors out? Some sites do have a warning page or use ICRA, but with the majority it's one click and porn in your face. Changing that certainly wouldn't make our critics go away, but right now it strikes me that if most of us had to answer on the exclusion of minors issue or preventing people from seeing porn by accident, we couldn't do a whole lot more than stare at our shoes.Originally posted by PR_TomComment
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You forgot number 8:Originally posted by The Adult Broker
File two sets of taxes and (if you earn well) pay tax to the country you're now living in AND the US. (for those that miss the point almost no other country has to pay tax back home when living and earning elsewhere).
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But the Republicans control everything how can you be so blind.I have no great love for the democrats but how you cant see they are the lesser of two evils blogs my mind.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetShhhh dont blow the illusion.Comment
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95% of my sales come from pages/websites/advertising that doesn't show nudity and the site i send them to doesn't show nudity until they enter in their credit card.Originally posted by jayeff
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He is not in adult ... so he doesn't care ...Originally posted by tony404
For the comment on the Democrats, you are absolutely right: they are a bunch of spineless politicaly starved desperate "to-be-elected" pricks...
They know are coming with the religion aspect ( we are Christians also, we believe in god, and all that crap ), the anti-porn proposals ... They have no fucking balls .I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
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Correct John... I find that that part the most amazing bullshit ever. Someone was born or agreed to be a US citizen has have to carry that baggage to the grave (or relinquish citizenship), - it's just absurd.Originally posted by Big John
The other nasty little detail is - if eg.. a US webmaster (US citizen) commits an offense while in another country - not necessarily any actual offense against the host country - but against US law, they have a tendency to be on a US Marshall flight back to the US to stand trial. Least the rest of the world only have one law to consider - that of where they reside.Last edited by Webby; 06-29-2006, 01:48 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally posted by marketsmart
Didnt the mob try to pull this scam in Vegas then after they were exposed the corporate types came in and made veags a lot more cleaner......Comment
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Originally posted by WorldnetConfused I think...Originally posted by directfiestaComment
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I'm glad I am Canadian as well and set up all my operations out of the US years ago ,Originally posted by Black Dog
except for hosting which I am able to move if absolute necessary .
I agree with those who stated that its not about the kids protection ,
it has everything to do with Republican b.s mixture of bush's christian
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Be careful about buying porn magazines too. If the kids find it under your bed u'll risk 5 years in prison....
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LOL! that's a fucking great one... ahahaOriginally posted by Dirty DaneBe careful about buying porn magazines too. If the kids find it under your bed u'll risk 5 years in prison....
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READ the article. Your making something out of it that its not.Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
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we've been telling you guys that the US sucks for yearsComment
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In the house energy and commerce committee where Paul Cambria was on the panel, the committee told Cambria to take back a message to the industry... self-label or congress will do it.
These proposed bills have a good chance of becoming law because it just feels right to congres.... movies have labels, video games have labels, mobile phones are using labeling, etc.
Self-labeling is not hard to do, and many sites already do it. A law just means you have to do it, if in the US.
FSC can surely mount their challenges to such a law.
Now the ramifications of labeling can be drawn out to the theories that now the government can clamp down on porn by pressuring ISP to block, rather than trying to make a law that outlaws porn outright.... i seriously don't see the ISP angle... ISP make money in selling b/w, which porn is the big driver for it.
Adult websites should be registering their URL's to blocking systems like netnanny, cybersitter, etc.. and using labeling systems like ICRA....and to do so VOLUNTARILY.. but given congress' agenda, it will just be mandatory, sites will label, and business will go on.
All those up in arms about this mandatory labelling, how many of you spoke out against .XXX?
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Originally posted by webgurlI'm glad I am Canadian as well and set up all my operations out of the US years ago ,
except for hosting which I am able to move if absolute necessary .
I agree with those who stated that its not about the kids protection ,
it has everything to do with Republican b.s mixture of bush's christian
issues.
this is not just a Republican thing.. democrats are jumping onboard as well.
and whose to say that Canada, EU, etc might not adopt similar ideas of labeling? You only have too look at Germany at what the porn industry went through to see that EU is not the magic safe land. Mobile industry in EU has guidelines for rating of content on mobile phones.
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lets stick to current affairsOriginally posted by FightThisPatent
We can leave the "what if " for later .
There is no magic safe land but at this moment
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