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  • Ohm
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    #1

    I just learned something interesting. Persians are Iranians.

    Just saw a show on tv about the old Persian empire in what is now today Iran. So basically people say that they're Persian to avoid saying they're Iranian.

    I thought that was pretty crazy shit.
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    • BAKO
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      • Ohm
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        #4
        Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
        That short bus you took to school...it wasn't the VIP bus.
        Do a Wikipedia search for "Persia". I would post a link but I'm new so I'm not allowed until 30 posts.

        Feeling stupid yet?

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        • Lycanthrope
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          • jimmy-3-way
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ohm
            Do a Wikipedia search for "Persia". I would post a link but I'm new so I'm not allowed until 30 posts.

            Feeling stupid yet?
            I've been feeling stupid ever since I clicked on this thread. Dude, everybody on the planet who got a C or above in high school geography knows that Iranians are Persians. That's why they speak Farsi and not Arabic.

            There was this big war a few years back, Iran v Iraq, winner take all cage match? Sunnis v Shiites? Any of this ring a bell? Probably not.
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            • Ohm
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              #7
              Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
              I've been feeling stupid ever since I clicked on this thread. Dude, everybody on the planet who got a C or above in high school geography knows that Iranians are Persians. That's why they speak Farsi and not Arabic.

              There was this big war a few years back, Iran v Iraq, winner take all cage match? Sunnis v Shiites? Any of this ring a bell? Probably not.
              Sorry, just never put 2 and 2 together I guess.

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              • rants
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                Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, they all drive bmw's and wear designer clothes. And they like to build huge ostentations Mcmansions in Beverly Hills.

                I like McMansions though, the more ostentatious and luxurious the better!
                Last edited by rants; 06-28-2006, 08:54 PM.

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                • EdgeXXX
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                  Wonder how long before the new kids figure out that Juicy is "Persian" and not Italian.
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                  • rants
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rants
                    Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, they all drive bmw's and wear designer clothes. And they like to build huge ostentations Mcmansions in Beverly Hills.

                    I like McMansions though, the more ostentatious and luxurious the better!
                    There's even an entry for Persian Palace in Wikipedia

                    Persian palace" is a derisive term used by Los Angeles residents for a large mansion that occupies a disproportionately large area of the parcel on which it is built. This style of house is similar to a McMansion, but draws from Mediterranean Revival and Middle Eastern influences instead of English and French ones. While wealthy Angelenos of all ethnicities have built such edifices (particularly Taiwanese and Chinese immigrants in the San Gabriel Valley), Persian palaces get their name from the wealthy ethnic Persians who build them, primarily those who immigrated to Los Angeles's West Side after the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
                    [edit]

                    Characteristics

                    A Persian palace typically is a 2-story white or pink stucco-covered box incorporating architectural and decorative features from many traditions--most notably Spanish tile roofs, wrought-iron decoration, Romanesque columns and atria, bronze Middle Eastern statuary (typically of lions)--into a whole that is derided by many architects as less than the sum of its parts. (Many Persian palaces are designed by their occupants or by unlicensed architects.) As Persians have largely congregated in built-out areas such as Beverly Hills, construction of Persian palaces usually requires the demolition of the house that previously occupied the lot.

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_palace

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                    • Webby
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                      #11
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                      • Holly
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                        I've been feeling stupid ever since I clicked on this thread. Dude, everybody on the planet who got a C or above in high school geography knows that Iranians are Persians. That's why they speak Farsi and not Arabic.

                        There was this big war a few years back, Iran v Iraq, winner take all cage match? Sunnis v Shiites? Any of this ring a bell? Probably not.
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                        • Juicy D. Links
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                          #13
                          Iran has Muslims and Jews.... The term Iranian and Persians are interchangeable .... the language spoken is Persian

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                          • jimmy-3-way
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                            .... the language spoken is Persian
                            Don't correct me.
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                            • L-Pink
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ohm
                              So basically people say that they're Persian to avoid saying they're Iranian.

                              And because you can get more money for a Persian-Rug than an Iranian-Rug ...

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                              • Lazonby
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                                #16
                                Most Iranians (the ones who dislike Islam anyway) prefer to be refered to as Persian, as Persia was a sourse for good things but Iran is the source of nothing good.

                                The original Persians were not Muslims. They were Zoroastrians, which is a kind of fire-worshiping religion. Zoroastrians are persecuted in Iran, as are Jews and Baha'i.

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                                • Relish XXX
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                                  #17
                                  A girl I know who classes herself as Persian was arrested and thrown in prison in Iran when she went back because she brought a book into the country which was western.

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                                  • Dagwolf
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                                    • baddog
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rants
                                      Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, they all drive bmw's and wear designer clothes. And they like to build huge ostentations Mcmansions in Beverly Hills.

                                      I like McMansions though, the more ostentatious and luxurious the better!

                                      you really like to generalize, don't you?

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                                      • AmateurFlix
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Lazonby
                                        Zoroastrians, which is a kind of fire-worshiping religion.
                                        people worship fire?

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                                        • baddog
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ohm
                                          Just saw a show on tv about the old Persian empire in what is now today Iran. So basically people say that they're Persian to avoid saying they're Iranian.

                                          I thought that was pretty crazy shit.

                                          I think you got it backwards. I am pretty sure Persians are not Iranians, Iranians are Persian.

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                                          • baddog
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                            people worship fire?
                                            without fire there would be no hookah

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                                            • AmateurFlix
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              without fire there would be no hookah
                                              heh good point

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                                              • baddog
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                                heh good point

                                                I party with lots of Persians

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                                                • rants
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                  you really like to generalize, don't you?
                                                  Did I say ALL? No I did not say ALL. I said MOST. There is a DIFFERENCE.

                                                  Not all persians, but MOST. There's nothing wrong with being rich and wear designer clothes and living in mcmansions, that's the lifestyle that I aim for.

                                                  Most persians ARE rich though because it is the ELITE persians who were able to flee the Shah in Iran. That is not a generalization. It is a FACT.

                                                  From http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Ha...Americans.html
                                                  "According to U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Services figures through 1991, estimates on Iranian immigrants are much lower, totaling 200,000 Iranian immigrants entering the United States since 1978. The difference in these figures may be the result of counting only those who entered the country as immigrants, leaving out the large numbers of those entering officially as non-immigrants, including students and visitors. This group is often characterized as the former "elite" of Iran, highly educated and skilled professionals of various religions and ethnic backgrounds, many of whom have been financially successful in the United States."

                                                  If you are rich then naturally you are more likely to build bigger houses and drive fancier cars.
                                                  Last edited by rants; 06-28-2006, 10:04 PM.

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                                                  • baddog
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rants
                                                    Did I say ALL?

                                                    As a matter of fact, yes you did.

                                                    Originally posted by rants
                                                    they all drive bmw's and wear designer clothes.
                                                    You might be cute, but you are still an idiot. Changing names didn't help.

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                                                    • rants
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      As a matter of fact, yes you did.



                                                      You might be cute, but you are still an idiot. Changing names didn't help.
                                                      Try again. You conveniently left out the first part of my sentence.

                                                      "Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, they all drive bmw's and wear designer clothes."

                                                      It would have been REDUNDANT for me to write ""Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, most drive bmw's and wear designer clothes."

                                                      Just by the the word "most" you should have gotten the general gist of what I was saying.

                                                      Who are you to call me stupid? I don't find you particularly smart either.

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                                                      • baddog
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by rants
                                                        It would have been REDUNDANT for me to write ""Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, most drive bmw's and wear designer clothes."

                                                        If you are afraid of being redundant, you could have easily said, "Most persians in Cali are pretty rich, drive bmw's and wear designer clothes."

                                                        Adding "all" to the equation didn't help your case.

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                                                        • baddog
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rants
                                                          Who are you to call me stupid? I don't find you particularly smart either.

                                                          I forgot to mention, I didn't call you stupid, you did.

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                                                          • Pornwolf
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                                                            #30
                                                            Rants is right. Persians are usaully pretty well off. They definitely are sharp businesspeople.

                                                            The women are pretty hot too.
                                                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                                                            • rants
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              I forgot to mention, I didn't call you stupid, you did.
                                                              You wrote "you are still an idiot", idiot has a similar meaning to stupid.

                                                              Since when did you become the grammar police?

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                                                              • VIPimp
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                Rants is right. Persians are usaully pretty well off. They definitely are sharp businesspeople.

                                                                tru dat...

                                                                one being Ebay's founder.

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                                                                • VIPimp
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by VIPimp
                                                                  one being Ebay's founder.
                                                                  interesting, there are a few persians behind big sites.. like google and yahoo... http://www.parstimes.com/Iranians.html

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                                                                  • Pornwolf
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by VIPimp
                                                                    interesting, there are a few persians behind big sites.. like google and yahoo... http://www.parstimes.com/Iranians.html
                                                                    I didn't know Pierre was Persian.

                                                                    Who from Yahoo is Persian?
                                                                    I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                    Webair, bitches.

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                                                                    • VIPimp
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                      I didn't know Pierre was Persian.

                                                                      Who from Yahoo is Persian?
                                                                      yea Pierre is.
                                                                      2nd from the top on right http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/management.cfm farzad, joined in 96 as a senior VP.

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                                                                      • pixellusion
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        considering the size of the old persian empire, i'd say about 75% of the middle east is "persian" in roots.

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                                                                        • KRosh
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I will answer any questions you have about Persians ( Iranians)


                                                                          The 2 words are virtually synonymous nowdays.

                                                                          Generally, Persian history is said to have begun with King Cyrus the Great (the english translation for my name and one other GFY'er), who unified Persia and conquered vast tracts of land. He is also famous for liberating the Jews from captivity in Babylon around 538 BC. This information is recorded in the Bible, in the Books of Isaiah, Daniel and Ezra.

                                                                          Persia = the country
                                                                          Farsi or Parsi = the language


                                                                          Many Americans seem to believe that Iranians are Arabs. This may be due to the fact that many people in both countries practise Islam, and that they both use the arabic alphabet. The reason Iran uses the Arabic alphabet is because it was imposed on them when the Arabs tried to conquer Iran. That is where the similarties end!

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                                                                          • VIPimp
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by KRosh
                                                                            Ask me anything you want to know
                                                                            When you driving down to san jose so we can eat some PERSIAN foooood ?

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                                                                            • KRosh
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by VIPimp
                                                                              When you driving down to san jose so we can eat some PERSIAN foooood ?

                                                                              Man, i am on my way back to LA Friday.
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                                                                              • VIPimp
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by KRosh
                                                                                Generally, Persian history is said to have begun with King Cyrus the Great (the english translation for my name and one other GFY'er), who unified Persia and conquered vast tracts of land.
                                                                                heh i totally missed this part of your post lol...

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                                                                                • VIPimp
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by KRosh
                                                                                  Man, i am on my way back to LA Friday.
                                                                                  dammm your moving back for good? ill hit you up on icq when i get home.

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I am originally from Los Angeles. I've partied with lots of cool Persians.

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                                                                                    • mikesg
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      For some obscenely strange reason after reading this whole thread, and I have no idea why I read it, I still feel as if I simply don't give a flying fuck if they're persians or goat herders or even if you're living next to one.

                                                                                      Dunno why.. I just dont!

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                                                                                      • Linkster
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Well - Im glad someone can find info that the western world has called Iran Persia although the real Persian Empire included Iraq and many other "states" as well as Iran.

                                                                                        Heres a second thing to learn today - will give you some real perspective into todays current events:
                                                                                        Iraq was a democracy - seems strange to hear that? Well - up until the United States helped some military generals take over Iraq 30 years ago(including installing Saddam into power with Dick Cheneys help) - Iraq had a democratic political leadership - we just took it away from them so that we could have a good pawn to fight against Iran(since they were backed by Russia at the time)

                                                                                        Funny how 30 years later - we are "trying" to install a democracy - guess the US leadership feels bad that they took it away???
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                                                                                        • kilotoons
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          This thread is making me hella hungry


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                                                                                          • Mighty Chin
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                                                                                            #46
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                                                                                            • nico-t
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              why do they call themselfs persian then when persia aint excisting anymore? why dont they call them selfs iranian?

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                                                                                              • Tanker
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                                                                                                wheres the hookah? Krosh is one awesome Persian! I have lots of friends that are Persian They are good business men and will work hard to make a good deal
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