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06-22-2006, 07:32 AM

http://www.space.com/news/060622_alien_encounters.html

That's a new story on this phenomena

Here are 10 UFO related mysteries the researchers claim have been solved.

http://www.space.com/top10_alienenco..._debunked.html
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06-22-2006, 07:39 AM

Benjamin Radford is a writer and the managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine... lol

I've read some of them... seems like anything can pass for "debunking" these days... Nevermind leaving most of the details out.. Very scientific of him... lmao
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06-22-2006, 07:40 AM

come on, all this UFO crap belongs to X Files
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06-22-2006, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

Benjamin Radford is a writer and the managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine... lol

I've read some of them... seems like anything can pass for "debunking" these days... Nevermind leaving most of the details out.. Very scientific of him... lmao

Here's one thing that always amazed me in over 25 years of reluctantly studying UFOs:

UFO researchers are always broke fighting for funding to do research but UFO debunkers are always rolling in unending sources of funding.

Debunkers show up at conventions in Mercedes Benz and UFO researchers show up in rented RVs.

Makes ya wonder.
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06-22-2006, 10:09 AM

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come on, all this UFO crap belongs to X Files

Y'know for something that doesn't exist the government has spent a fuckload of money covering up the fact that something doesn't exist.

Go figure.
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06-22-2006, 10:27 AM

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Y'know for something that doesn't exist the government has spent a fuckload of money covering up the fact that something doesn't exist.

Go figure.

Thats exacly where your porn taxes go to.

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06-22-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Greg B

Here's one thing that always amazed me in over 25 years of reluctantly studying UFOs:

UFO researchers are always broke fighting for funding to do research but UFO debunkers are always rolling in unending sources of funding.

Debunkers show up at conventions in Mercedes Benz and UFO researchers show up in rented RVs.

Makes ya wonder.

"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."
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06-22-2006, 10:59 AM

I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

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06-22-2006, 11:02 AM

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06-22-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Donny

"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."

a crack pot? and you would know that how?
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06-22-2006, 11:25 AM

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"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."

No it doesn't. That's a broad generalization that's unwarranted.

It shows how there's a definite agenda to suppress any data that may confirm the theories and facts presented by UFO investigations.

There's more to UFO investigations than whether ETs are visiting. That's just ONE hypothesis. There's much more shit dug up like illegal experimentations on citizens, misappropriated tax dollars, stolen technology, stolen land,
threats agains citizens, violations of constitutional rights and the list goes on.

We all know our government and industries would never engage in such dispicable practices so I guess the UFO researchers are wrong eh?
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06-22-2006, 11:26 AM

Where are the alien bodies? Where is the spacecraft? I used to believe in Aliens and UFO until I realized the only evidence is bs fiction and what have you.
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06-22-2006, 11:27 AM

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06-22-2006, 11:46 AM

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Where are the alien bodies? Where is the spacecraft? I used to believe in Aliens and UFO until I realized the only evidence is bs fiction and what have you.

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06-22-2006, 12:21 PM

If aliens are not visiting, then the only other explanation is that a certain number of governments around the world are suppressing really amazing aircraft technology from the general public.
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06-22-2006, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Phoenix

you live in arizona?

ever hear of this?
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http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/
http://www.rense.com/general40/phoenix.htm
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Interesting... Still no evidence of actual UFOs
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06-22-2006, 12:32 PM

1. We're not alone in the universe (or multiverse or whatever the fuck we live in).

2. UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive.
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06-22-2006, 12:39 PM

The thing is though, people who believe in UFOs, ghosts, spirituality and the like can claim not only to be more interesting than those who don't but can also claim to be more 'open-minded' than those who do not. Of course, people who believe in bullshit are not really more interesting than more clever people and they are certainly not more open-minded. But don't tell them that. It might shatter their illusions.
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06-22-2006, 01:32 PM

I am an alien.
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06-22-2006, 01:34 PM

ufo's arnt real, but i bet there is life outside the universe...

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06-22-2006, 01:36 PM

i hope theres aliens since a big portion of humans seem to be completely fucked, so im really hoping theres a better option out there

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06-22-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by pimpporn

Interesting... Still no evidence of actual UFOs

yes but something the size of a small town flew over your state..lol

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06-22-2006, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by J. Falcon

I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

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06-22-2006, 01:56 PM

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06-22-2006, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Lazonby

The thing is though, people who believe in UFOs, ghosts, spirituality and the like can claim not only to be more interesting than those who don't but can also claim to be more 'open-minded' than those who do not. Of course, people who believe in bullshit are not really more interesting than more clever people and they are certainly not more open-minded. But don't tell them that. It might shatter their illusions.

yeah.. something like that... lol What type of research have you done concerning the subject again..? None? Thats what I thought...

and btw " UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive." ... haha... keep up with your dumb assumptions.. Btw, what do you know about future technologies/innovations millions of years from now? I hope you figured out they might be more advance than us right? lol

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06-22-2006, 02:13 PM

It's all REAL!

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06-22-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

yeah.. something like that... lol What type of research have you done concerning the subject again..? None? Thats what I thought...

and btw " UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive." ... haha... keep up with your dumb assumptions.. Btw, what do you know about future technologies/innovations millions of years from now? I hope you figured out they might be more advance than us right? lol

Well, what we do know is that high speed travel (travel which is close to the speed of light, which would be necessary for interstellar travel) produces a 'blue shift' (or is it a red shift, hmm I can't remember) which produces such high levels of destructive radiation such as would make the journey impossible.

We also know that should an alien race have the knowledge to 'bend space' (ie. create a wormhole), the energy requirements would be prohibitive.

We also know that we have only been sending out radio waves for around a hundred years, putting the vast majority of even our own universe beyond any knowledge of our existence.

So, it's reasonable to state that even if aliens knew we were here (which they don't), to visit us they would have to take a trip lasting thousands of years at the minimum through impenetrably sterilising radiation or would have to risk creating a black hole by trying to open a wormhole to get to us. And for what? What could they learn from us? Why would they even want to take the trip?

But then again, I don't accept the existence of ghosts, gods or fairies either, so what do I know.
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06-22-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by J. Falcon

I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

I agree. It's is mathematically impossible for us to be alone.
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06-22-2006, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Lazonby

We also know that should an alien race have the knowledge to 'bend space' (ie. create a wormhole), the energy requirements would be prohibitive.

Are you even serious? We recently discovered the possibilty of wormholes, anti-matter, negetive energy... and you already willing to conclude that the energy requirements would be too great to travel thru wormholes and it could never be done...!??? lol You dont even know what we'll discover in 200 years, imagine in 1 million..!
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06-24-2006, 07:01 AM

What a bunch of crap, you'd think this site would at least use citations and the scientific method to debunk.

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06-24-2006, 07:11 AM

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I agree. It's is mathematically impossible for us to be alone.

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06-24-2006, 07:20 AM

All those things hapend far away from where i live. and reading about it it's just like a fake story. but there is something true that the US goverment is covering.

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06-24-2006, 07:27 AM

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06-24-2006, 07:32 AM

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06-24-2006, 07:33 AM

The only voices of reason in this thread seem to be Lazonby and Donny.

There is a pretty big chance that life exists in other places in the universe. However, chances of a majority of that life being ahead of humans in terms of intelligence and technology are not all that big. Remember, on earth, humans are by far the most intelligent and technologically advanced creatures on earth, among thousands of different species.

So it does not seem unreasonable to assume that, to make life more advanced than humans likely, there has to be a LOT of life in the universe. Still, that's possible. However, for lifeforms to be able to find out that there's life on earth, they would have to be vastly superior in terms of technology (and possibly intelligence) to humans. Once again, chances get slimmer. One can also assume that to discover life on earth in the vastness of the universe also involves a good amount of sheer luck. And chances get even slimmer...

To travel to earth, of course, would require even more advanced technology - if it is possible at all. Even assuming that the growth of technological knowledge is exponential (and thus goes faster the further along you get), this still lessens the chances of such a kind of life existing, finding us and visiting us.

All these factors combined make the chance of aliens visiting us pretty small. But if they would visit us, WHY THE FUCK would they not make contact, yet get spotted by all kinds of idiots in tin foil hats?

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06-24-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by punkworld

The only voices of reason in this thread seem to be Lazonby and Donny.

There is a pretty big chance that life exists in other places in the universe. However, chances of a majority of that life being ahead of humans in terms of intelligence and technology are not all that big. Remember, on earth, humans are by far the most intelligent and technologically advanced creatures on earth, among thousands of different species.

So it does not seem unreasonable to assume that, to make life more advanced than humans likely, there has to be a LOT of life in the universe. Still, that's possible. However, for lifeforms to be able to find out that there's life on earth, they would have to be vastly superior in terms of technology (and possibly intelligence) to humans. Once again, chances get slimmer. One can also assume that to discover life on earth in the vastness of the universe also involves a good amount of sheer luck. And chances get even slimmer...

To travel to earth, of course, would require even more advanced technology - if it is possible at all. Even assuming that the growth of technological knowledge is exponential (and thus goes faster the further along you get), this still lessens the chances of such a kind of life existing, finding us and visiting us.

All these factors combined make the chance of aliens visiting us pretty small. But if they would visit us, WHY THE FUCK would they not make contact, yet get spotted by all kinds of idiots in tin foil hats?

lol... yeah.. thats like a woman that kills her husband.. detectives find plenty of strong evidences proving she's the killer.. but the dumb prosecutor wont even look at them because gee... WHY THE FUCK would a nice church going lady murder her loving husband....?? Keep assuming pal.. don't educate yourself on the subject.. Intellectual rigueur is obviously something your are not familiar with...

p.s. coming to the same conclusion as Donny should be a sign that you have more homework to do on the subject...
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06-24-2006, 09:38 AM

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lol... yeah.. thats like a woman that kills her husband.. detectives find plenty of strong evidences proving she's the killer.. but the dumb prosecutor wont even look at them because gee... WHY THE FUCK would a nice church going lady murder her loving husband....?? Keep assuming pal.. don't educate yourself on the subject.. Intellectual rigueur is obviously something your are not familiar with...

p.s. coming to the same conclusion as Donny should be a sign that you have more homework to do on the subject...

There isn't plenty of strong evidence that aliens do visit the earth in UFOs. There's a crapload of really, really, REALLY shitty stories from people who are for the most part completely unreliable. The same kind of people who talk to the Virgin Mary, believe Elvis and Tupac are alive and living on Mars, etc.

PS. Intellectual "rigueur" is indeed something I am not familiar with. What I do know, however, is that when trying to criticise someone's intellectual capacities, correct spelling is de rigueur.

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06-24-2006, 09:52 AM

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There isn't plenty of strong evidence that aliens do visit the earth in UFOs.

and how would you know that? When did you research the subject again? lol You know anything about the Disclosure Project?

PS. Intellectual "rigueur" is indeed something I am not familiar with. What I do know, however, is that when trying to criticise someone's intellectual capacities, correct spelling is de rigueur.

okkkkk.. wanna take your own advice...? lol ... rigueur is a french word, I speak french, you don't... de rigueur is something else unrelated...

Intellectual rigour ? Sounds more familiar..?
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06-24-2006, 09:57 AM

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okkkkk.. wanna take your own advice...? lol ... rigueur is a french word, I speak french, you don't... de rigueur is something else unrelated...

nevermind that... misread .. thought you meant "rigueur" is spelled "de rigueur" ....

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06-24-2006, 10:06 AM

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and how would you know that? When did you research the subject again? lol You know anything about the Disclosure Project?

Yes, I do know about the Disclosure Project. I also know about the Drake Equation. Do you?

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06-24-2006, 10:18 AM

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Yes, I do know about the Disclosure Project. I also know about the Drake Equation. Do you?

the drake equation? again... refer to my exemple of the woman murderer earlier... Let's brush off any evidences we have because some guy came up with a formula that says it would be unlikely... You think that that formula isnt disputed?

And let's hear what you think about the Disclosure project... 400+ whistleblowers... Not Joe Blow the farmer that saw a red spot in the sky... But professionals from ranked military officers, CIA, NASA , FAA people, astronauts, etc... all willing to go to congress and lie under oath...? Present false documents to congress? Present fake witnesses to congress to support their fake account? Let's hear it...

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06-24-2006, 10:40 AM

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the drake equation? again... refer to my exemple of the woman murderer earlier... Let's brush off any evidences we have because some guy came up with a formula that says it would be unlikely... You think that that formula isnt disputed?

And let's hear what you think about the Disclosure project... 400+ whistleblowers... Not Joe Blow the farmer that saw a red spot in the sky... But professionals from ranked military officers, CIA, NASA , FAA people, astronauts, etc... all willing to go to congress and lie under oath...? Present false documents to congress? Present fake witnesses to congress to support their fake account? Let's hear it...

First and foremost, the Drake Equation is not just "some formula". In fact, although one can dispute the variables, the equation itself is pretty much bulletproof. Also, it was not just created by "some guy", it was created by Frank Drake - a professor in astronomy and astrophysics, who founded SETI and is absolutely convinced that alien life does in fact exist and that it is inevitable that humanity will make "contact" in the (near) future. However, even he believes that there is no compelling evidence for the whole UFO thing.

As for the Disclosure Project, I am fully convinced that some of those participating saw things but misinterpreted those, that others saw things that were just secret military technology, that yet others are completely insane, and that the project as a whole is extremely biased. Remember, every single religion in the world can come up with thousands upon thousands of testimonies from "respected" sources to support its dogmas.

And here are some nice quotes from the DP:

"In short, the definitive solution to the world's energy, pollution, and poverty problems exists within compartmentalized projects that need planned disclosure and relevant legislation."

"A clear and on-going threat to the national security and world peace has arisen because of unauthorized covert actions that have led to the targeting and downing of these extraterrestrial vehicles and to related covert plans to weaponize space."

"[...]the testimony shows that [these extraterrestrial civilizations] are very concerned about nuclear and space-based weapons systems, and human warfare"

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06-24-2006, 10:53 AM

Oh, some more on the Disclosure Project: it's led by Stephen Greer, a man who has claimed that he is in telepathic contact with extraterrestrials, and offers courses in "guiding" extraterrestrial spacecraft. Ehm, yeah, that isn't weird at all.

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06-24-2006, 11:06 AM

Not sure if this has been said. But there are absoultely UFO sightings all the time. But all that means is an "unidentified flying object". This classification in no way implies alien activity. Its just something seen in the air that can't be seen clearly enough to identify.

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06-24-2006, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by punkworld

Also, it was not just created by "some guy", it was created by Frank Drake - a professor in astronomy and astrophysics, who founded SETI and is absolutely convinced that alien life does in fact exist and that it is inevitable that humanity will make "contact" in the (near) future. However, even he believes that there is no compelling evidence for the whole UFO thing.

Wow!! Very convincing argument.. except for the fact that Drake and Seti are the biggest UFO skeptics you'll ever hear... You know, even the president of any skeptic association doesnt disagree with Drake...? They all believe that alien life is a possibility... Does that add to their credibility?

As for the Disclosure Project, I am fully convinced that some of those participating saw things but misinterpreted those, that others saw things that were just secret military technology, that yet others are completely insane, and that the project as a whole is extremely biased. Remember, every single religion in the world can come up with thousands upon thousands of testimonies from "respected" sources to support its dogmas.

yeah, easy to discredit anything based on generalisations like that... "misinterprations", "insanity" , etc.... Remember about Intellectual rigour? Nevermind the details... the motto of true Skeptics

As for world religions... Those 400 whistleblowers didnt lived 2000 years ago... I think that makes them more reliable.. Small detail right?

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06-24-2006, 11:27 AM

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However, even he believes that there is no compelling evidence for the whole UFO thing.

Ofcourse, admitting the opposite would discredit the whole SETI project and prove it has been a failure...

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06-24-2006, 11:32 AM

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06-24-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Joey B. Lo

Not sure if this has been said. But there are absoultely UFO sightings all the time. But all that means is an "unidentified flying object". This classification in no way implies alien activity. Its just something seen in the air that can't be seen clearly enough to identify.

You have made the definitive statement. I myself have seen a UFO late one night. I have no idea what it was. If I did know what it was it would not be a UFO. Someone once made the statement (Sagen for one) that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" and there is in fact zero proof that any sighted UFO is alien related.
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06-24-2006, 11:48 AM

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Wow!! Very convincing argument.. except for the fact that Drake and Seti are the biggest UFO skeptics you'll ever hear... You know, even the president of any skeptic association doesnt disagree with Drake...? They all believe that alien life is a possibility... Does that add to their credibility?

Yes, it does add to their credibility that they keep all options open, rather than wildly speculating about all sorts of things (like MJ12, PI40, organizations shooting down UFOs to steal their technology, etc.).

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yeah, easy to discredit anything based on generalisations like that... "misinterprations", "insanity" , etc.... Remember about Intellectual rigour? Nevermind the details... the motto of true Skeptics

What exactly do you mean by "intellectual rigour"? To me, it means considering all options, investigating them, and then practicing inference to the best explanation, all the while accepting that the best explanation may prove to be wrong later on.

Now, intellectual rigour leads me to the following line of reasoning:

1. I have seen plenty of proof that there are shitloads of people who claim truly absurd things, that have proven to be completely erroneous.
2. Therefore, I will not accept a claim that seems truly absurd in the context of my entire body of knowledge, based on mere claims by a relatively small group of people.
3. I will only change my current views on such absurd claims when presented either with compelling evidence, or statements from a very large body of people whose observations I trust.
4. UFO theory is truly absurd, considering such things as the Drake Equation, the idea of alien life so advanced it can travel across the universe yet so simplistic it can not cloak itself or observe earth from a distance, large numbers of people successfully keeping such essential knowledge from the public, etc.
5. Therefore, I will not believe UFO theory unless presented with compelling evidence or testimonies from a very large number of trustworthy people.

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As for world religions... Those 400 whistleblowers didnt lived 2000 years ago... I think that makes them more reliable.. Small detail right?

There are millions of people alive today, many of them professors and scientists, who truly believe they speak with God on a daily basis.

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06-24-2006, 11:53 AM

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You have made the definitive statement. I myself have seen a UFO late one night. I have no idea what it was. If I did know what it was it would not be a UFO. Someone once made the statement (Sagen for one) that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" and there is in fact zero proof that any sighted UFO is alien related.

Exactly. I've seen a UFO myself once, when I was a kid. Later, I learned that it was probably just a meteorite. Considering the number of natural phenomenons humanity simply does not understand yet, as well as the number of people willing to blindly accept anything they see or experience as proof of "something more", it seems extremely likely that people are just interpreting things the wrong way - a bit like people in older civilizations who thought thunder was caused by the gods.

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