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06-23-2006, 02:53 PM

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06-23-2006, 02:53 PM

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06-23-2006, 02:55 PM

no, marriage is a union between a man and a woman,
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06-23-2006, 02:55 PM

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06-23-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by iwantchixx

no, marriage is a union between a man and a woman,

Who says ??

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06-23-2006, 02:58 PM

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Who says ??

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06-23-2006, 02:59 PM

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06-23-2006, 03:02 PM

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Who says ??

My thoughts exactly.

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06-23-2006, 03:07 PM

I'd agree with that.
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06-23-2006, 03:57 PM

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I'd agree with that.
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06-23-2006, 03:58 PM

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06-23-2006, 03:59 PM

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06-23-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by iwantchixx

no, marriage is a union between a man and a woman,

There's nothing wrong with being old fashioned, but don't try to force other people to be... imo.

I agree with Elle and that gif.

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06-23-2006, 04:00 PM

i hate bush and i dont hate homosexuals but i kinda agree marriage is for a man and a women.
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06-23-2006, 04:13 PM

Think of all the men and women who are married out there, and don't love each other. Now think of all the people who are of the same sex who DO love each other.

IMHO, I think marriage should be a unity between two people who love each other. Who is to say it should be between a man and a woman?

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06-23-2006, 04:21 PM

there are 2 parts to a marriage . .the 'religious' and the 'government contract' the religious should be completely separate form the civil contract and the tax situations, health care etc . . or it's religion in government . .
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06-23-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Think of all the men and women who are married out there, and don't love each other. Now think of all the people who are of the same sex who DO love each other.

IMHO, I think marriage should be a unity between two people who love each other. Who is to say it should be between a man and a woman?

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06-23-2006, 04:39 PM

I agree to anything you say...
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06-23-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Think of all the men and women who are married out there, and don't love each other. Now think of all the people who are of the same sex who DO love each other.

then they will get married and fall out of love and want a divorce too!
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06-23-2006, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Think of all the men and women who are married out there, and don't love each other. Now think of all the people who are of the same sex who DO love each other.

Ok so what you have proven is marriage is bullshit. If 2 gays love each other why do they HAVE to get married? Is that piece of paper going to make them love each other more?

Marriage has to aspects

A)religious. And if some religion doesn't believe gays should be married they are under no obligation to marry them.

B) legal. The government wants people to get married so they can collect a big fat fee for a marriage licence.
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06-23-2006, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

If 2 gays love each other why do they HAVE to get married?

I don't think she said they have to. Just that they shouldn't HAVE TO NOT get married.

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06-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Wanton

there are 2 parts to a marriage . .the 'religious' and the 'government contract' the religious should be completely separate form the civil contract and the tax situations, health care etc . . or it's religion in government . .

Exactly.. not to mention if things were all done according to religious beliefs, Catholics could not marry Jewish people, Christians could not marry Atheists, etc.

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06-23-2006, 04:49 PM

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06-23-2006, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

Ok so what you have proven is marriage is bullshit. If 2 gays love each other why do they HAVE to get married? Is that piece of paper going to make them love each other more?

Marriage has to aspects

A)religious. And if some religion doesn't believe gays should be married they are under no obligation to marry them.

B) legal. The government wants people to get married so they can collect a big fat fee for a marriage licence.

No one says that straight people HAVE to get married either. The legal reasons are beyond the "fat" fee that the government gets when you sign your marriage license. It also has to do with tax exemptions, medicare benefits, social security, and other privileges that married couples receive.

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06-23-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Exactly.. not to mention if things were all done according to religious beliefs, Catholics could not marry Jewish people, Christians could not marry Atheists, etc.

what does "marriage" matter if religion is not involved. why do people care so much about "government approved" marriage, because they want the benefits or something? Not trying to be harsh, I just don't understand that.

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06-23-2006, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Pure Evil

what does "marriage" matter if religion is not involved. why do people care so much about "government approved" marriage, because they want the benefits or something? Not trying to be harsh, I just don't understand that.

Because marriage is important in any person's life. Gay couples, just like straight couples, want the symbolism that marriage brings.. a sense of commitment to another person, as well as social recognition.

And yes, the benefits any straight couple gets with marriage, social security, etc.

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06-23-2006, 05:04 PM

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then they will get married and fall out of love and want a divorce too!

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06-23-2006, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Because marriage is important in any person's life. Gay couples, just like straight couples, want the symbolism that marriage brings.. a sense of commitment to another person, as well as social recognition.

And yes, the benefits any straight couple gets with marriage, social security, etc.

See, I just don't agree with that rationale. Here's why: if I am going to marry someone, it is because of love (just like your gif says) and NOT because I want to milk the government for extra benefits. If someone wants the government to recognize their marriage only because they want to be able to take advantage of the monetary benefits, I think that's bullshit. Of course, I am also one of the only black men that you will ever meet that is against wellfare. If they truely just want the symbolism, why not just go down to the jewelers and pick out their wedding rings. The rings are the symbolism of the lasting love and union.

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06-23-2006, 05:12 PM

I believe marriage can be between two men or two women, but they should not be allowed to adopt kids for their own.

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06-23-2006, 05:16 PM

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I believe marriage can be between two men or two women, but they should not be allowed to adopt kids for their own.

Why not? If you want them to have the right to be married just like straight couples, why don't you want them to be able to adopt a child like a straight couple?

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06-23-2006, 05:25 PM

Ummm I am all for marriage between any type of adults but I do not feel that it is always been about love. Why should it be, it is more of a contract anyways.

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06-23-2006, 05:26 PM

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I believe marriage can be between two men or two women, but they should not be allowed to adopt kids for their own.

Why because two gay parents automatically produce gay children? Just like two straight parents automatically produce straight children, right?

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06-23-2006, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Shaze

I believe marriage can be between two men or two women, but they should not be allowed to adopt kids for their own.

okay.. normally i don't get involved in arguments such as this... but this time i will add my 2 cents. my mother is a lesbian.. yes i said that. i'm not afraid to admit it either. my mom knew she was a lesbian her whole life, but back in the 70's ..hell.. the 80's and barely into the 90's it wasn't socially acceptable. and my mom tried to conform to society and society's beliefs.

she finally decided when i was about 5 and after 2 failed marriages that she was going to follow her feelings.. and her feelings were for other women. i've been raised by two women almost my entire knowledge of my life (my mom and her significant other, that I refer to as my "aunt").

i knew it was awkward because all of my friends had a father / mother sorta deal... but not me.. i had two moms. and for the most part.. i turned out a hell of alot better than most of my friends growing up that had both a mom and a dad in the whole married situation.

translation? .... I 100% disagree with you about same sex couples being able to adopt. the sad part is that alot of these couples want to have children without having to go through the whole child birth cycle which is against their nature of being same sex couples. and the fact that there are 100's of thousands of kids out there in foster homes just waiting to be brought in to a loving home.

i knew of a friend personally that was in and out of foster homes her whole life that would have killed to have any family.. she didn't care if they were same sex or not. she just wanted someone to love her.

so for you to judge a couples ability to raise a child based on their sexual beliefs is just f'n wrong.. and you should reconsider... and not judge.

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06-23-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Think of all the men and women who are married out there, and don't love each other. Now think of all the people who are of the same sex who DO love each other.

that's retarded... no one forced them to get married... poor example to prove something... i'd have to disagree with that banner... marriage is between a man and a woman...

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06-23-2006, 06:06 PM

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that's retarded... no one forced them to get married... poor example to prove something... i'd have to disagree with that banner... marriage is between a man and a woman...

Think about all the people out there who don't believe in DIVORCE. Who stay married to one another, because they don't think DIVORCE is right.

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06-23-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Think about all the people out there who don't believe in DIVORCE. Who stay married to one another, because they don't think DIVORCE is right.

more power to them... that's better for their kids!

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06-23-2006, 06:11 PM

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more power to them... that's better for their kids!

Are you kidding me? I couldn't be HAPPIER about the fact that my parents got divorced. I was only two, my dad treated my mom like SHIT and she divorced him. A year later she met my step-father who was the best thing to ever come into her life, or mine.

If my parents had stayed together, because they didn't believe in divorce.. I highly doubt my mother or I would even still be alive.

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06-23-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by iwantchixx

no, marriage is a union between a man and a woman,

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06-23-2006, 06:27 PM

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more power to them... that's better for their kids!

you're a complete idiot for making this statement. my step-father used to beat my mother and myself as well and the best thing my mother did was get the hell outta that relationship. she probably saved both of our lives. and this guy was a cop.. hell.. he's still a cop. he's a police chief now in a town in Michigan!
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06-23-2006, 07:01 PM

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06-23-2006, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by BLish

you're a complete idiot for making this statement. my step-father used to beat my mother and myself as well and the best thing my mother did was get the hell outta that relationship. she probably saved both of our lives. and this guy was a cop.. hell.. he's still a cop. he's a police chief now in a town in Michigan!

the convo never involved abuse.. it was a simple response to couples sticking to marriage even though they don't love each other... READ before commenting genius

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06-23-2006, 08:16 PM

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06-23-2006, 08:21 PM

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we just need to impeach that fucking moron

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06-23-2006, 08:26 PM

As a straight white Christian conservative pro-lifer male, I whole heartedly disagree with same-sex marriages. If we, as a proud Christian nation, were to allow this ungodly union to occur, we would be no better than that free loading country Canada. And what?s next? Marriage between animals and human beings? Look, I?m all for that Indian lady who married the snake and that Jew that married the dolphin, but what are you going to do when people want to marry CATS? And that isn?t even the theoretical limit of the insanity that would happen if we were to allow same-sex marriages, oh no friend, not by a long shot. After the pro-bestially manage to get inter-species marriages rectified, it?s only a matter of time before people start marrying rocks and trees and other inanimate objects. But you would think that?s the worst of it? haha, not by a long shot. Soon people will start marrying the pure elements. You?ll see singed cocks and burnt pussies from people trying to have sex with fire, you?ll see idiots sky diving without a parachute because they wanted to get to know wind a little bit better ?in that way?.

No friend, we have to stop this now before it gets out of hand. Marriage is between a man and a woman, not between a man and a man, a woman and a woman, not between people and animals, not between people and inanimate objects and certainly not between people and the elements. If we don?t stop this travesty from occurring in our lifetime our children will have to deal with this issue of whether or not to allow the inclusion in the constitution of allowing people to marry bacteria and viruses. However, polygamy should be allowed because polygamy rocks.
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06-24-2006, 02:15 AM

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06-24-2006, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Elle Sommers

Why because two gay parents automatically produce gay children? Just like two straight parents automatically produce straight children, right?

Perhaps he thinks that gays will molest the children even though the overwhelming % of child molesters and particularly child murderers are straight males. Maybe we should ban any household that has a straight male between 18-50 from adopting children since they are the most likely to rape and murder children.
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06-24-2006, 05:56 AM

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nd what?s next? Marriage between animals and human beings? Look, I?m all for that Indian lady who married the snake and that Jew that married the dolphin, but what are you going to do when people want to marry CATS? And that isn?t even the theoretical limit of the insanity that would happen if we were to allow same-sex marriages, oh no friend, not by a long shot. After the pro-bestially manage to get inter-species marriages rectified, it?s only a matter of time before people start marrying rocks and trees and other inanimate objects. But you would think that?s the worst of it? haha, not by a long shot. Soon people will start marrying the pure elements.

You're completely right. I retract my statements about gay marriage all together. I should have remembered that all animals are able to sign legal documents, and the elements have the same rights to a place in society as humans. It must have slipped my mind!

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06-24-2006, 05:59 AM

I can understand people being afraid of change, and uncertain about whether or not gay marriage is something that is "right"...

...but not too long ago, people were afraid of giving african americans rights because they were afraid of the change...

..people were afraid of giving WOMEN rights, because they weren't sure if it was right or not.

Just because you don't understand it, don't condone it, don't like it, doesn't mean you should prevent other people from HAVING RIGHTS.

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