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  • DateDoc
    Outside looking in.
    • Feb 2005
    • 14243

    #1

    What time will the NYSE pull the plug on trading tomorrow?

    Catastrophic loses look eminent as Barclays has backed out of buying Lehman Bros and they will fail (well they have failed already it is just not official). The Govt has also said it does not want to bail out Lehman Bros. The failure of Lehman will lead to many more failures with WAMU the most likely and maybe Merril Lynch. If this goes down tomorrow the NYSE will have to suspend trading.
  • Vendot
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    • May 2002
    • 3376

    #2
    Im gonna set a limit to buy $100k worth of GOOG at $0.01
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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      I hope someone comes in last minute to buy them.

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      • Vendot
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        • May 2002
        • 3376

        #4
        http://www.reuters.com/article/usDol...65548820080914
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        • DateDoc
          Outside looking in.
          • Feb 2005
          • 14243

          #5
          The 1st wave of worldwide loses could come in just a few hours when the Hang Seng opens at 7:00PM PST (10:00AM Monday Honk Kong time).
          Last edited by DateDoc; 09-14-2008, 03:19 PM.

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          • emjay
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            • Dec 2004
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            #6
            Looks like we are witnessing history in the making...
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            • Vendot
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              • May 2002
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              #7
              Looks like tommorrow is going to be armageddon...... question is, is it worth buying anything after the first shock wave or do you wait until the reverberations come later?
              "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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              • Evil E
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                • Apr 2005
                • 3201

                #8
                Interesting, I don't know much about that but I'll be watching the story...


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                • tony299
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #9
                  there are some that say, let it really fall hard.Then the rebuilding can begin.

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                  • NickPapageorgio
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                    • Apr 2004
                    • 8323

                    #10
                    I made another thread asking about the market because I honestly don't know jack about it. From reading CNN Money, what I gather is Lehman bros got in over their head with some back real estate decisions and are now going broke but are hoping someone would buy them/bail them out but that's not happening.

                    That's why I want to learn how this shit works. I read that something super important is going on with the market and I don't know enough about it to know the significance of it. I'm learning, just never really cared enough about it until this past year or so.

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                    • GetSCORECash
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 5527

                      #11
                      If Lehman falls... It's going to be a domino effect. WM, MER, C, and even NYX and GS anything financial will get hit, and hit bad..

                      I'm so deep into WAMU, if I pull out now, I'm still going to get my dick cut off.
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                      • Vendot
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                        • May 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        there are some that say, let it really fall hard.Then the rebuilding can begin.
                        And if your bank has been doing deals with Lehman and not had a chance to unwind positions? Then do you still want Lehman falling on its ass?

                        Lets say tommorrow you wake up and find that your bank has collapsed and you're worth a couple of twinkie cakes you spent your last pocket of change on. How would you feel?

                        NET WORTH (September 14th): $121k

                        NET WORTH (September 15th): $0.04 (plus 2 Twinkie cakes)
                        Last edited by Vendot; 09-14-2008, 03:31 PM.
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                        • DateDoc
                          Outside looking in.
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 14243

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vendot
                          And if your bank has been doing deals with Lehman and not had a chance to unwind positions? Then do you still want Lehman falling on its ass?

                          Lets say tommorrow you wake up and find that your bank has collapsed and you're worth a couple of twinkie cakes you spent your last pocket of change on. How would you feel?

                          NET WORTH (September 14th): $121k

                          NET WORTH (September 15th): $0.04 (plus 2 Twinkie cakes)
                          I hope the govt comes thru and bails them out and they need to do it in the next few hours before the Hang Seng opens. They have said they do not want to but have not come right out and said they will not.

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                          • tony299
                            lurker
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vendot
                            And if your bank has been doing deals with Lehman and not had a chance to unwind positions? Then do you still want Lehman falling on its ass?

                            Lets say tommorrow you wake up and find that your bank has collapsed and you're worth a couple of twinkie cakes you spent your last pocket of change on. How would you feel?

                            NET WORTH (September 14th): $121k

                            NET WORTH (September 15th): $0.04 (plus 2 Twinkie cakes)
                            Did I say I said that? Why so aggressive? Banks are insured if you didn't know. If tomorrow we are thrown into a depression we are all going to be affected big time.
                            Last edited by tony286; 09-14-2008, 03:38 PM.

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                            • IllTestYourGirls
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 14311

                              #15
                              I hope you are ready for the ride.

                              For those of you who have not been listening to Peter Schiff it maybe time to

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                              • DateDoc
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 14243

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tony404
                                Did I say I said that? Why so aggressive? Banks are insured if you didn't know. If tomorrow we are thrown into a depression we are all going to be affected big time.
                                We are not talking about insured funds we are talking about stocks taking a nose dive across the board. More and more banks are going to fail. As to insured funds - how many deposits can the govt cover before the money the govt is giving you is worthless?

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                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                  • Feb 2007
                                  • 14311

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DateDoc
                                  I hope the govt comes thru and bails them out and they need to do it in the next few hours before the Hang Seng opens. They have said they do not want to but have not come right out and said they will not.
                                  The government or the FED?

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                                  • DateDoc
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                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 14243

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                    The government or the FED?
                                    Either/or. Someone needs to.

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                                    • marketsmart
                                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 20419

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                      Banks are insured if you didn't know.
                                      the indy mac failure ate 10% of the FDIC fund...

                                      the fdic could only handle 1 large bank failure and after that the FDIC fund would be empty..

                                      anyway, the currency markets opened tonight with some huge moves.. the dollar got hit especially hard against the yen.. however, it seems to be bouncing back..

                                      japan is closed because of holliday. when europe comes online tonight we will see what going to happen..

                                      monday morn is going to be wild for sure...

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                                      • Vendot
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                                        • May 2002
                                        • 3376

                                        #20
                                        http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...34273620080912

                                        Dollar down tommorrow......
                                        Last edited by Vendot; 09-14-2008, 03:57 PM.
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                                        • SomeCreep
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                                          • Mar 2003
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                                          #21
                                          I love capitalism. Fear and uncertainty creates so much opportunity, for the smart investor, anyway.

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                                          • tony299
                                            lurker
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 57021

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by marketsmart
                                            the indy mac failure ate 10% of the FDIC fund...

                                            the fdic could only handle 1 large bank failure and after that the FDIC fund would be empty..

                                            anyway, the currency markets opened tonight with some huge moves.. the dollar got hit especially hard against the yen.. however, it seems to be bouncing back..

                                            japan is closed because of holliday. when europe comes online tonight we will see what going to happen..

                                            monday morn is going to be wild for sure...
                                            I actually found this post on a mainstream site good points.:
                                            The FDIC doesn't have any "money" but as long as it is funded by the taxpayer it will not be unable to service commitments. By way of perspective. in the 89-90 savings and loan fiasco over 1000 financial institutions collapsed, in the current crisis there may be 150 banks at risk.Take a deep breath the sky is not falling and capitalism is the only game in town, you can't win if you don't play.

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                                            • Vendot
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                                              • May 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                              I love capitalism. Fear and uncertainty creates so much opportunity, for the smart investor, anyway.
                                              Thats true...... when all your cash is wiped out, youll still have two twinkie cakes and because no-one else will have any cash to buy food, you can trade your twinkie cakes for pussy.
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                                              • tony299
                                                lurker
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 57021

                                                #24
                                                My only wish is if the government bails this one out and other ones in the future. The executive teams leave with nothing but their family photos.

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                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                  • 14311

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                  I love capitalism. Fear and uncertainty creates so much opportunity, for the smart investor, anyway.
                                                  Bail outs dont happen in capitalism

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                                                  • Vendot
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                    My only wish is if the government bails this one out and other ones in the future. The executive teams leave with nothing but their family photos.
                                                    You want them to leave the building naked and covering their extremities with a photo frame? A form of punishment?
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                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 35475

                                                      #27
                                                      kinda wish i had kept my trading account stocked up
                                                      probably some really good buys to be had coming soon
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                                                      • tony299
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                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 57021

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Vendot
                                                        You want them to leave the building naked and covering their extremities with a photo frame? A form of punishment?
                                                        Better than giving them 7 million dollar severance packages for fucking up.

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                                                        • DateDoc
                                                          Outside looking in.
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 14243

                                                          #29
                                                          CNBC has confirmed press reports that Lehman Brothers is likely to file for bankruptcy protection as soon as Sunday evening.
                                                          http://www.cnbc.com/id/26708143

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                                                          • OG LennyT
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                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 14345

                                                            #30
                                                            I am putting lots of cash on GOOG tomorrow... it's a buyer's market fuckers
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                                                            • pocketkangaroo
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                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                              • 8452

                                                              #31
                                                              Futures down 270 points.

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                                                              • DateDoc
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                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 14243

                                                                #32
                                                                B of A and Merril Lynch have agreed on terms for B of A to buy them. Both boards have approved the deal.

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                                                                • DateDoc
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 14243

                                                                  #33
                                                                  BofA is paying $29/share for MER which closed at $17.05 on Friday and was like to be bankrupt in a week or two after Lehmans tanked.

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                                                                  • Sami
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    My estimate is about 50% of the merrill employees get axed and that is alot of employees!

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                                                                    • Manowar
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DateDoc

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                                                                      • DateDoc
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                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 14243

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Sami
                                                                        My estimate is about 50% of the merrill employees get axed and that is alot of employees!
                                                                        shitty day for a lot of employees

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                                                                        • TheSenator
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                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • emjay
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                                                                            • Dec 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DateDoc
                                                                            shitty day for a lot of employees
                                                                            indeed, but don't expect too much sympathy from Joe Public.
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                                                                            • Hank_Heartland
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Funny to hear all you Republicans asking for a bailout
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                                                                              • ADL Colin
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Vendot
                                                                                Looks like tommorrow is going to be armageddon...... question is, is it worth buying anything after the first shock wave or do you wait until the reverberations come later?
                                                                                I'm buying after the first shock wave with some left in reserve for further price drops.


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                                                                                • rowan
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                                                                                  • Mar 2002
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I believe it's currently about 8:45am in NY... what time does the exchange open?

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                                                                                  • notime
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                                                                                    • Jun 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080915/world_markets.html

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                                                                                    • Darkland
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                                                                                      • May 2002
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                      By way of perspective. in the 89-90 savings and loan fiasco over 1000 financial institutions collapsed, in the current crisis there may be 150 banks at risk.Take a deep breath the sky is not falling and capitalism is the only game in town, you can't win if you don't play.
                                                                                      I have been hearing this from several places and it is not looking at the bigger picture. Sure maybe only 150 banks are at risk versus the 1000 that collapsed in 89-90. The big difference is that through mergers, buy-outs, consolidations AND the closure of those banks that collapsed in the S&L fiasco there AREN'T as many banks around today to soften the blow.


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                                                                                      • marketsmart
                                                                                        HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                        • 20419

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                        I actually found this post on a mainstream site good points.:
                                                                                        The FDIC doesn't have any "money" but as long as it is funded by the taxpayer it will not be unable to service commitments. By way of perspective. in the 89-90 savings and loan fiasco over 1000 financial institutions collapsed, in the current crisis there may be 150 banks at risk.Take a deep breath the sky is not falling and capitalism is the only game in town, you can't win if you don't play.
                                                                                        i am pretty sure the FDIC keeps a reserve fund.. of course the FDIC is backed by the govt ie: the taxpayers, so ultimately the FDIC has unlimited money..

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                                                                                        • DateDoc
                                                                                          Outside looking in.
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 14243

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Looks like the BofA purchase of MER is going to help stabilize or stave off huge losses for most. AIG is down 44% today, WAMU 20% and Wachovia 13%.

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                                                                                          • ADL Colin
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                            the indy mac failure ate 10% of the FDIC fund....
                                                                                            I think more than that.

                                                                                            The FDIC fund was $45 billion at the end of June. The most recent estimate of the cost of Indy Mac is $8.9 billion. Almost 20%.

                                                                                            So now the FDIC will have to charge banks higher premiums in order to rebuild its reserve ratio.


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                                                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                              i am pretty sure the FDIC keeps a reserve fund.. .
                                                                                              yes. They charge banks an insurance premium and those funds then go into the fund.


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                                                                                              • Sami
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Market never behaves in the manner that everybody would expect.

                                                                                                Contrarian ? Perhaps.. at least in times of uncertainty.


                                                                                                I won't be surprised if the Dow fills the gap today...


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                                                                                                • tiger
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  More carnage to come I'm sure but today looks like it wasn't as bad as everyone thought it would be.

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                                                                                                  • DateDoc
                                                                                                    Outside looking in.
                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                    • 14243

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DateDoc
                                                                                                    Looks like the BofA purchase of MER is going to help stabilize or stave off huge losses for most. AIG is down 44% today, WAMU 20% and Wachovia 13%.
                                                                                                    Wachovia is now down 22% and AIG 62%

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