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  • kmanrox
    aka K-Man
    • Oct 2001
    • 29295
    #1

    Affiliates to get SCREWED with new pvt browsing trend?

    It seems the browsers are moving towards 'private browsing' features that clear cookies... what happens now? unless the affiliate's surfer impulse buys right away, the affiliate is screwed?

    if i recall right, most software tracks by other means like IP etc too.. but that surely isn't accurate...

    So what now? Is this significant enough where affprogs will have to signficantly raise their payouts to appease affiliates? Maybe start crediting for upsells inside members areas, xsells etc?

    Are affiliates just screwed in the end?
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    • DateDoc
      Outside looking in.
      • Feb 2005
      • 14243
      #2
      I have had my browser set for over a year to clear all saved info and cookies upon closing.

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        • kenny
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2002
          • 7245
          #3
          affilates are always getting screwed.

          when is the last time there was any good news that would lead to increased signups? lol
          7

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            • webmasterchecks
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2006
              • 1685
              #4
              there are more ways to track than cookies, although im not an expert on the subject

              some software also matches by IP address, and i know pixel tracking popular in mainstream, and im sure there are others.

              these things affect huge companies like amazon as well and you know they wont stand for it
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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32234
                  #5
                  Well depend if it will be default feature of browser then yes.If not,then not.But again i think people wont need especialy if you visit daily things like forums which require cookie to stay login all the time.

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                    • MrAwesome
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 898
                      #6
                      not the hugest way of tracking anymore
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                        • kmanrox
                          aka K-Man
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 29295
                          #7
                          Originally posted by MrAwesome
                          not the hugest way of tracking anymore
                          o rly? what is then? ip tracking is not accurate.
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                            • BlackCrayon
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 19634
                              #8
                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                              Well depend if it will be default feature of browser then yes.If not,then not.But again i think people wont need especialy if you visit daily things like forums which require cookie to stay login all the time.
                              Yeah, really. Normal people who aren't doing things they aren't supposed to be doing won't want to use this setting as you'd have to re-enter all your username/passwords for everything every time you logged on. I'm actually surprised they would promote this as a positive. I know foxfire already has the ability but you have to manually do it but really, this seems to cater to those looking up illegal things.
                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                • marketsmart
                                  HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 20419
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                  Yeah, really. Normal people who aren't doing things they aren't supposed to be doing won't want to use this setting as you'd have to re-enter all your username/passwords for everything every time you logged on. I'm actually surprised they would promote this as a positive. I know foxfire already has the ability but you have to manually do it but really, this seems to cater to those looking up illegal things.
                                  you do know that a lot of porn surfers are married and their spouses dont approve..

                                  saying its just for illegal things isnt true at all...

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                                    • BlackCrayon
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 19634
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by marketsmart
                                      you do know that a lot of porn surfers are married and their spouses dont approve..

                                      saying its just for illegal things isnt true at all...
                                      True but can't people do this already? Clear cookies, cache, etc?
                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                        • Brujah
                                          Beer Money Baron
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157
                                          #11
                                          Have you browsed around with Firefox and the AdBlock Plus with the easylist subscription by default when it gets installed?

                                          Blocks all kinds of ads. I never see Google Adsense anywhere for example. It blocks ads using keywords in the filenames or urls like banner, ads. Pretty aggressive.

                                          Check them out here:
                                          http://easylist.adblockplus.org/adblock_rick752.txt

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                                            • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                              (felis madjewicus)
                                              • Jul 2006
                                              • 20368
                                              #12
                                              A lot of the optimism in this thread is pointed towards the "oh people simply won't use it" train of thought. Hell, there was a full page article in the Edmonton Sun the other day with the big text headline "Call it... Porn mode" which they highly praised the new privacy features, encouraged their use, and even went on to explain how you can clear your porn surfing tracks with their use. How many people read the Sun? A LOT. I don't doubt that similar articles are being ran in other papers, magazines, newsletters, blogs, and websites. A good number of porn surfers I'm sure saw that headline and read the article. A couple clicks to cover their tracks, I'm sure plenty will at least consider it.

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                                                • u-Bob
                                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                  • 33063
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                                                  and i know pixel tracking popular in mainstream
                                                  and how exactly do you think that works?

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                                                    • u-Bob
                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                      • 33063
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                                      Blocks all kinds of ads. I never see Google Adsense anywhere for example. It blocks ads using keywords in the filenames or urls like banner, ads. Pretty aggressive.[/url]
                                                      That's why it's a good idea to put your free sample pics in a dir called /ads/

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                                                        • nearnow
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 1485
                                                          #15
                                                          that's an interesting thought? are there any program representive would like to clear this up?

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                                                            • marketsmart
                                                              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 20419
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                              and how exactly do you think that works?
                                                              magic pixel fairy's....

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                                                                • d-null
                                                                  . . .
                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                  • 13724
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                                  A lot of the optimism in this thread is pointed towards the "oh people simply won't use it" train of thought. Hell, there was a full page article in the Edmonton Sun the other day with the big text headline "Call it... Porn mode" which they highly praised the new privacy features, encouraged their use, and even went on to explain how you can clear your porn surfing tracks with their use. How many people read the Sun? A LOT. I don't doubt that similar articles are being ran in other papers, magazines, newsletters, blogs, and websites. A good number of porn surfers I'm sure saw that headline and read the article. A couple clicks to cover their tracks, I'm sure plenty will at least consider it.
                                                                  yes, there is no doubt it will have an effect

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                                                                    • kmanrox
                                                                      aka K-Man
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 29295
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by nearnow
                                                                      that's an interesting thought? are there any program representive would like to clear this up?
                                                                      i'm not sure there is a way for anyone to clear it up.. i'd sure like to hear about if so...

                                                                      maybe TooMuchMedia NATS can offer an explanation as to how they will deal with this?
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