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Yeah, I've always done that with my videos too.... I guess I'm going to have to switch out my animated gif clip images to the ones with the watermarks on them too.... I'm glad I thought ahead and made them all with and without the URLs on them.
The worst part of this is all my banners to my other stores are gone too.... so I'm not just losing traffic from them to my paysite.... I'm losing all my cross traffic between my stores. Sucks ass.NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose
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Yep. Same here TatrSalad.
Just checked, and all the site to site cross links are gone as well.
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That's what I'm taking issue with. I send 20k a day in hit between two of my related stores, and a few thousand of those move form one to the other. The little dropdown isn't sufficient.Comment
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Not that you want to hear this, but my Hotmovies/Clips.com sales are up the last two days.
I have, and will continue to enjoy, a great deal of success with clips4sale, but I'm also smart enough to know that things change, and at some point, you are leaving money on the table. I've added other options for selling my content, and all it's done is earn me more money, and more continued success.Comment
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Completely agree.
I threw 50k this week at the stores through promo, and it's obviously not cool to say the least. Sales are picking back up past couple of days, but still..
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I think I am just going to have to build in clip platform when I get my pay sites redesigned to add in the cams and other shit. Or make a spin off.Not that you want to hear this, but my Hotmovies/Clips.com sales are up the last two days.
I have, and will continue to enjoy, a great deal of success with clips4sale, but I'm also smart enough to know that things change, and at some point, you are leaving money on the table. I've added other options for selling my content, and all it's done is earn me more money, and more continued success.
I am glad that you are still doing well with your other avenues however. If the producers continue to get pissed off, you are going to see a mass exodus to other places like fetishvideos.com or some of these copy cats.
Assuming they have a fair split, and do not piss off producers.Comment
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Looks like fetishvideos.com is a solid split.
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We pay a base of 60% to you on all your sales. Yes, you heard correctly! Even though we pay for ALL the hosting and bandwidth, even though we pay for one of the largest adult server networks on the planet, even though we pay for all the credit card fees and maintenance, even though we pay for top-of-the-line programming staff and customer service people, AND we pay for a staggering amount of advertising per month, we STILL give you a base payout of 60% on all sales. We don't even take half (feel free to send holiday presents to us) and better yet, we are happy to work with high volume producers to INCREASE their payouts! Please don't ask for this until you have shown you have great content that sells incredibly well as we need to eat, too!
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fetishvideos.com is a good one, can't tell something bad about these guys.
Also you may consider yoogirls.com (yes, self advertisement
) - i'll give you a 70/30 split instead of the 60/40 - if you're interested hit me up on ICQ 
Anyway, i always liked to put the clips on all the clips sites and i'd recommend it too.Last edited by StariaDaniel; 09-11-2008, 02:12 PM.Comment
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Nice interface.fetishvideos.com is a good one, can't tell something bad about these guys.
Also you may consider yoogirls.com (yes, self advertisement
) - i'll give you a 70/30 split instead of the 60/40 - if you're interested hit me up on ICQ 
Anyway, i always liked to put the clips on all the clips sites and i'd recommend it too.
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I'll hit you up in a day or two for that 70/30.fetishvideos.com is a good one, can't tell something bad about these guys.
Also you may consider yoogirls.com (yes, self advertisement
) - i'll give you a 70/30 split instead of the 60/40 - if you're interested hit me up on ICQ 
Anyway, i always liked to put the clips on all the clips sites and i'd recommend it too.
NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose
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I just read through our license agreement and there is no mention of giving license to use your clips content on hotmovies.com or any of our vod sites. If anyone would like to take a look at our agreement, please email me. Or just write in if you have any questions.
We encourage our clips.com providers to add their legally owned and varifiable content to our hotmovies.com for an increase in exposure as well as profits, but it is hardly mandetory.
If you're going to exxxotica New York this weekend, please stop buy booth 207 and say hello!
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I was looking for that, because I thought it seemed odd, given that you have a seperate contract for clips than you do for hotmovies.I just read through our license agreement and there is no mention of giving license to use your clips content on hotmovies.com or any of our vod sites. If anyone would like to take a look at our agreement, please email me. Or just write in if you have any questions.
We encourage our clips.com providers to add their legally owned and varifiable content to our hotmovies.com for an increase in exposure as well as profits, but it is hardly mandetory.
If you're going to exxxotica New York this weekend, please stop buy booth 207 and say hello!
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Agreed.
Keep in mind, I have not looked at clips.com, or considered them, for some time. So I will have to look (if so inclined) next time I preview their clip store option.
I DO remember it being in there however, and laughed at it both times. I did not look at their VOD option to be fair on DC's end.Comment
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Dan is a good guy..I'll put more effort into clips, thanksI just read through our license agreement and there is no mention of giving license to use your clips content on hotmovies.com or any of our vod sites. If anyone would like to take a look at our agreement, please email me. Or just write in if you have any questions.
We encourage our clips.com providers to add their legally owned and varifiable content to our hotmovies.com for an increase in exposure as well as profits, but it is hardly mandetory.
If you're going to exxxotica New York this weekend, please stop buy booth 207 and say hello!
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"Keep in mind, I have not looked at clips.com, or considered them, for some time. So I will have to look (if so inclined) next time I preview their clip store option.
I DO remember it being in there however, and laughed at it both times. I did not look at their VOD option to be fair on DC's end."
We haven't changed our terms of service since day one. I have a feeling that you may be confusing us with another clips site. We just want providers that have have legit content to have an avenue to make as much money as they can. I think that the clips model has unlimited potential and that's why I keep pushing ahead with it.
New providers are joining the site and adding new content every day. I'm always available to answer any concerns, so if something in our contract confuses you, please feel free to contact me directly.Comment
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ok this is about to be fucked up with clips4sale..no responses...no banners are back up...I'm about to pull all my shit ( This smells like a company in trouble and about to pull a jack move)Comment
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I heard back from Neil last night. I will post details later. Right now in the middle of an update to sites.Comment
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I am not going to argue with you toots.
Obviously if everything was 'peachy' at the time I had read your contract, and the percentages were mutually beneficial. Then I would have signed up. I am not going to leave money on the table for a fair offer any more than the next guy. It's common fucking sense.
When time allows, I will look at your site, percentages for payout, and traffic again compared to other clip stores, and networks. If I have confusion, then I will discuss it at that time.
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My question
His answer.On 9/11/08, Neil wrote:
The site was being reviewed or something and we needed them all down for some reason. Should be back up any day now
From: 1st Choice Studios
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:47 PM
To: neil@
Subject: ?
What up with this banner madness?
It said 48 hours, and it's more now. I emailed Chris two or three times, and no answer.Comment
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My best guess is that one of their processors were doing a review. They have multiple one's to make sure business doesn't stop. They have added in some new clips cash, or whatever recently.
But could be anything. He did not seem worried.Comment
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of course he doesn't seem worried..he's not fucked...u r.. I really am left uncomfortable with his vague answers, almost like he doesn't know wtf is going on.
I mean why not just say.. Hey guys, we are being reviewed by a processor, we will put the banners back when the review processing is done..why so secretive? ODDComment
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Let's look at this..
More chargebacks in recent months.
Sudden decline in sales
= They lost a processor
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They probably wouldn't wanna start a panic.of course he doesn't seem worried..he's not fucked...u r.. I really am left uncomfortable with his vague answers, almost like he doesn't know wtf is going on.
I mean why not just say.. Hey guys, we are being reviewed by a processor, we will put the banners back when the review processing is done..why so secretive? ODD
Years ago, I think it was 2005, they had their processing knocked out over PETA and bug crushing sites. PETA was on a rampage, and was knocking out the processors of any company that had crushing of bugs, animals, and so forth. (C4S was not only company effected. At that time I had B-H-E for some sites, and they had gotten notice as well)
But I agree, more information, especially after the 48 hours, would have been appropriate.Comment
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Yes, it's a smaller split on the content side, but if you are sending the kind of converting traffic you talk about, you'll make the 25% webmaster commission in addition to the commission for being a content producer.Comment
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DC,
So you use your own affiliate link to boost your smaller split?Comment
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I think Clips is 40% as a studio when someone purchases your video and 25% as an affiliate, making 65% if you send the customer to your own store. Why don't you check the agreement, Barefootsies, especially since your other concern about the VOD is not valid anymore supposedly anyway.Comment
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I clicked their link in sig.I think Clips is 40% as a studio when someone purchases your video and 25% as an affiliate, making 65% if you send the customer to your own store. Why don't you check the agreement, Barefootsies, especially since your other concern about the VOD is not valid anymore supposedly anyway.
They do not mention the split anywhere. I clicked on the "learn more". Again, no mention of the split for studio owner that I could see. If you find it, point it out to me.
I see it mentioned everywhere else for affiliates, webmasters, and VOD.
Odd.
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Disregard.
Jimmy Gunn found it on a separate program page.
Not the one in sig link(s).
30-40%
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Yes, that's correct.I think Clips is 40% as a studio when someone purchases your video and 25% as an affiliate, making 65% if you send the customer to your own store. Why don't you check the agreement, Barefootsies, especially since your other concern about the VOD is not valid anymore supposedly anyway.Comment
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Signed up.fetishvideos.com is a good one, can't tell something bad about these guys.
Also you may consider yoogirls.com (yes, self advertisement
) - i'll give you a 70/30 split instead of the 60/40 - if you're interested hit me up on ICQ 
Anyway, i always liked to put the clips on all the clips sites and i'd recommend it too.
Hitting you up BRO.
Last edited by Barefootsies; 09-12-2008, 05:18 PM.Comment
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Heard back from Neil this evening.
They ADDED yet another processor. Banners down during the approval process. Still using multiples.
SO.... all is good. Just formalities.Comment
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That makes sense, as it's impossible for them to police all the banners for objectionable content, to just remove them for the approval process.Comment
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FYI - The banners and stuff that were temporarily off...are back on!
At least mine are...all back to normal...
AND in the last 2 hours, I've made an "average days" worth of sales..so something's going strong here!
Fitz
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