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Old 09-06-2008, 07:25 PM  
BlackCrayon
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
First off the current model is the SAME MODEL THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR XSELLS FOR YEARS. That's what is blowing my mind about this stuff. You guys all act like it's something new.

And I have yet to see a x-sell that didn't have all the terms spelled out on the same page, including how much it will rebill for and when that will happen if not canceled.. What I call "using a scroll bar" is what these assclowns call "hidden". I don't see it like that at all. Yes, you do want a surfer to miss it when they sign up. BUT, every x-sell sends an email at the same time the host paysite sends it's email. And that email tells the member how long his trial is, when the rebill hits, the name that will appear on their credit card AND a link to a support page to cancel.

And since you were around for so long...why didn't you realize this about x-sells 5 or 10 years ago?

And where was everybody back when dialers were downloaded onto surfers at every big traffic site that stole MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars from people and made a lot of the original guys in internet porn millionaires who retired before 2000?

And where was everybody back when every big affiliate program was throwing 500 popups to other programs so hard that it shut down the surfers machine as well as downloaded dialers, Zango, and other shit?

And a ONE DOLLAR trial that rebills in 2 to 3 days that is clearly visible and sends an email to the member is "shady" "stealing" "crooked" and "destroying the business" No fucking way.
No matter how you want to look at it, pre check cross sales only work on those who don't know what they are, don't see them, etc. Maybe the odd person is interested in joining 2 other sites they have never seen before at the same time as joining another but very few. As for dialers, i was there. It lasted like 6 months before the ftc stepped in and stopped it, for US traffic at least.
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