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Old 09-06-2008, 06:38 PM  
faxxaff
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
My job was to get a surfer to the tour. Then it's the paysite owners job to have great content and a tour that will work for their particular niche. It's the tour's job to get the surfer to the join page. And once the surfer has made that decision...based on whether or not the tour has done it's job...then they have pretty much decided they are going to try and join that site.

I can't reach my hand out at that point and demand the backend money that the paysite makes. And the paysite can't "share" the costs of DECLINES if the surfers credit card doesn't work for any reason OR the $55 that the bank charges if the surfer pulls a chargeback on the paysite.

Fair is fair. And I feel all this b.s. is mostly coming either from people who have never run a paysite or people who aren't very successful as affiliates. I'm both, and my view of it reflects that.
I have ran paysites and I work as an affiliate for over 10 years. I do very well, because I chose my sponsors by profitability on a revshare model.

My point is: why send traffic to a site that will give me a very small amount of money for 1 join when they produce 3 or 4 joins (and several rebills)? If I have a surfer and I can potentially sell him 3 or 4 sites, I will do that and get my revshare from all of them and make much more than 35 or 200$ off of his wallet. Besides I can sleep well, because the surfer really wanted to join the sites and will come back to me to get advise about other sites he could join because I guided him to content he wanted.

In most cases the current model of Xsales is based on deceiving a surfer. Those Xsales are hidden and they do not receive information about canceling policy before they signup. That's not a honest way of doing business and it is very bad for the reputation of our industry. Such surfers will most likely never join a paysite again and resort to illegal tube sites to get their daily fix than lose money on another ripoff site.

A few years back I ran a small chat studio in Prague and we had guys spend thousands of Dollars every month. Needless to say I would be stupid to accept a PPS model for a cam site.
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