With everyone and their brother coming out with an affiliate program, can you still do so and be a success?
From small fry to big guy is it possible?
From small fry to big guy is it possible?
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Originally posted by Greg B
For us little guys, there may be some wisdom in partnering and combing resources.Comment
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Something unique and different that other programs don't have can definitely make it... Differentiation is good.
WGI play with Google.Comment
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Okay you just rang a big ass bell in my head. I don't know why I didn't think of it before.Originally posted by pussyluver
I do toons. Who would I partner with? Who really has the skills to market toon content and would webmasters find toon stuff worth selling?
I believe a few people have asked over the years but their deals didn't jibe right off the bat. Making loot and doing fun quality work is the goal. That combination always works.Comment
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You can say that again!Originally posted by WiredGuy
Also, how does humor play in selling a product. I'm noticing the comedy level that sets sites apart.
I've seen some funny ads on GFY that make affiliate programs very attractive. Lets you know there are real people behind the program not some stuffed shirt. That humor translates to the customer who feels like they have a pal showing them a good time. Those fans are worth their weight in gold.Comment
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We did it with teens content, and non exclusive teen content as well.
We gave the surfer good teen porn and it works fine.Comment
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Sure, with the right idea/site/content/promo tools.Comment
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there is no money in porn. run away now.
of course there is room for more affiliate programs. i think a lot that are still taking traffic in are pretty much dead anymore anyways. the next big biling shake up will cull some of the bullshit from the heep. I Hope. ;)Comment
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I started with $100, bought my first content for it. Then the first design for a few bucks.Comment
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Sure.. but get ready for long hours... LONG.
ain't easy.
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Sure.. find a niche that isn't over done and go at it. Should cost too much to get started. You can't expect the world on day one. For like $1k you could start something up. probably less then that. Paul Markham has like $10 sets so 50 of them is $500, domain $10, hosting $100/mo for starters?, ccbill (could be heavy fees) or something like vertrol(sp) which i don't think cost anything to setup but they take like 15% or something.
Start small if it explodes expand.Comment
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There are still new programs coming out all the time... however, what most people don't know is that a lot of the programs that you and I hear about being "launched" are actually just new programs done by old companies.
Most companies have 2+ sponsor programs these days... some that you'd never suspect are actually just programs belonging to a company that you may already promote.
Not many are started by "new to the industry" companies... and if they are, we don't usually hear about them here on the board for quite some time.Comment
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Agreed.Originally posted by StuartD
The trick is to get in on the new programs as soon as they come out.
For me, starting an affiliate program is the right way to go. I have to study or get someone who already has a company to snag me up. I spent all year cleaning my schedule just so I could spend alllll day drawing. I would have taken some offers to do an affiliate with some companies but they got too greedy. You ever see these guys who brag, brag, brag, about how hot their companies are and all the bling they have yadda yadda yadda and then when they want to hire someone they piss and bitch about how hard times are.
If a company is all fucking that, then they can afford to set things up nice for content providers and talent.
There are sooo many bullshitters in the business you wonder who they really work for.
Me, I'm just looking for a team that is about doing kick ass work and making money.Comment
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Exactly. Great advice.Originally posted by fallenmuffin
With niches and cartoons if you go to my site you'll see text links to the various niches people ask me to draw. Too many to name!
Some guys like superheroines. Some guys like just blonde superheroines, face sitting, wet looking, blah blah until fucking blah they ask for. I can't keep up but I give em' all a taste.Comment
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Originally posted by WiredGuy
thats the way in life wgComment
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i have one of the best ideas so far and getting it done is taking crazy time.
but once its done, the structure of it is so well thought out that anyone would promote itSomeone finds you...
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PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.Comment
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If you are small I'd say the best bet is to work on one quality site. Update it as often as you can with the best content you can.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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It's like asking, "Can you still open a shop, or still write a book, or still build a fucking sand castle?" You don't even have to be original, just competant.Comment
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actually, what i want to know is,
would a well DESIGNED affiliate site attract more people?
not functionality.. but design.Someone finds you...
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PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.Comment
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its easy anyone can do it, everyone is doing it because it still makes money :PComment
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Originally posted by crappy99
So where are the tutorials?Comment
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Greg, I 've been a fan of your work for quite some time, and I think a couple of monthiy series type toons would work best for your site (maybe 2-3 a month) and market it not as a website but as a magazine style site (1 edition per month, so many toons, plus some text stories illustrated with toons) and have people subscribe (a la Heavy Metal magazine - on of my faves for a long time).
Surfers could subscribe for a monthly installment of their favorite series, get a couple of single toons (jokes, in progress gallery etc.) and read some raunchy text stories in different niches with some of your toons as accents.
Just a thought
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I think the main question is reputation. I certiainly would not signup to a program where I have no idea who the people are. A new program espeically, i mean will you get paid etc? I think after a rocky couple of months, you may be able to do it still.Comment
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We did - with FabulousCash.com - and it's a lot of hard work. We're about 5 months old now, and if anyone has any questions, hit me up!Comment
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I see one of the biggest road blocks is hacks on the site and fraud. The little guy can't afford a fraud department or IT staff.
Look what happend to PIb, they pissed off some people and next thing you know they were hacked. NOt that it wasn't deserved, but ya get attacked all the time from vandals. Sometimes it is worse than others.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Gotta start somewhere.Comment
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Originally posted by WiredGuy
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no more money to be made in pornComment
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No, people with the most traffic are clever enough to care only about how much they make. If your sites convert, everything else is not important.Originally posted by chowdaComment
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I will be launching one soon.
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Thanks Super Guy. I thought of that approach and there are programs that kick ass and prevent hacking. Yet it's too much of a headache. I need a team mate who knows the ropes so I can just concentrate on cranking out work.Originally posted by SuperGuyGreg, I 've been a fan of your work for quite some time, and I think a couple of monthiy series type toons would work best for your site (maybe 2-3 a month) and market it not as a website but as a magazine style site (1 edition per month, so many toons, plus some text stories illustrated with toons) and have people subscribe (a la Heavy Metal magazine - on of my faves for a long time).
Surfers could subscribe for a monthly installment of their favorite series, get a couple of single toons (jokes, in progress gallery etc.) and read some raunchy text stories in different niches with some of your toons as accents.
Just a thought
There are many variations on a theme too. Glad I cleaned up everything this year to make way to work non-stop. Hit me up by ICQ, I'd like to ask you a few questions.Comment
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Anyone can always start one and be successfulOriginally posted by Greg BComment
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how did you start with $100Originally posted by andrej_NDC
where did you get processing with out paying ?Comment
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Conversion is the key. Some affiliate programs don't convert for jack. Others you wouldn't expect convert like crazy.Originally posted by andrej_NDCComment
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Yes, plus it helps when you are living in the Philipeans. heheComment
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I'm in EU, there were no setup fees with ccbill or epoch, or any other processor.Originally posted by Love SexComment
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the first one is the hardest because of the learning curve .. I put a lot more money into Mobbucks then I had to with Satancash.com ... The partnership with Pete has helped a lot because I've started a program and still run one while he has been in the TGP game and is a great Tech guy .. we work very well together and have innovative ad material and lots of cool site ideas ... it just takes long hours and lots of dedication ..
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I like this guyOriginally posted by Greg B lol but yeah its all about the niche and starting small. I want to start one for a super micro niche that would be comic/toon based. You you seem to be inclinded. There is only 1 paysite for this niche atm and without an affiliate program.. and can you name that fetish? lol
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This is true! So true!Originally posted by fallenmuffinI like this guy lol but yeah its all about the niche and starting small. I want to start one for a super micro niche that would be comic/toon based. You you seem to be inclinded. There is only 1 paysite for this niche atm and without an affiliate program.. and can you name that fetish? lol
You have to have a sharp eye and act like a surfer in order to spot these new niches as they pop up. Sometimes it can be something as simple as 'slicked back hair babes' and guys go crazy for that shit. Get 5,000 people signing up to that site and considering the cost of content you should make loot.
I learned a long time ago that it's not the number of affiliates selling your stuff, it's WHOM that affiliate is. You can have 100 affiliates selling your stuff but 5 of them put you well over into the top. You can make 6 figures doing that in a year. People want stuff that sells, case closed on that.
For me, toons sell and convert powerfully. My stuff is unique so instead of those cookie cutter anime/toon sites I give original stuff and often customized. That keeps em' coming back. I need to expand and doing a paysite/affiliate thing should put me way over the top soon as I figure out how to do it without the headache.Comment
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Mike you have a team. You can't lose with that manpower. Remember when you started Mobbucks? The theme was strong enough to attract me and my colleagues. Sometimes the theme is all it takes.Originally posted by MikeVegathe first one is the hardest because of the learning curve .. I put a lot more money into Mobbucks then I had to with Satancash.com ... The partnership with Pete has helped a lot because I've started a program and still run one while he has been in the TGP game and is a great Tech guy .. we work very well together and have innovative ad material and lots of cool site ideas ... it just takes long hours and lots of dedication ..
What happened to those toons I did for you and Pete? Email me.Comment
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I love a good theme ... it gets the eyes and then you have to back it up with the product .. Mobbucks was hard and did cost a bit to get in order ... Satancash was have the time and cost ... A good team is importantOriginally posted by Greg B
I'm using the Toons ..there good .. I'll email you tomorrow .. I'm glad your OK. I like everything with the toons ..maybe just a edit or two ..
I'm using them here http://www.satancash.com/external.php?page=contactus
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please, no more new paysites... its getting crowded
altho... this industry could handle another 300 or so...but all the money would be widespread..TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.Comment
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Originally posted by Greg B
I sure hope so.
fyi, if you're starting your own soon, I started a thread related to affiliate programs:
Business Thread: Your Wishlist for Affiliate Programs.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=623055
you might want to check it out for ideas/brainstorming.
and if you are starting your own affiliate site or thinking about it, hit me up... I'd be interested in promoting it and I don't mind revshare, for a site like yours, I don't need PPS. email me anytime.
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adrej, that's inspiring! and look how far you've come. how long since your 1st site?Originally posted by andrej_NDC
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Don Lapre says it can still be done.Comment
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90% of them dont make money.. Like anything else all it takes is alot of hard work and luck.. programs are a dime a dozen but do you trust them to pay you is the question..Comment
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Sorry disagree with this blanket statement.Originally posted by madawgz
What this industry does not need is 300 paysites following the same formula as the 300,000 that have gone before it. It needs 300 paysites that break out of the mould. It can be the same niche as before just needs to be different and a lot better.
And this is the key, if your sites are no different than the 300,000 other sites, and exclusive content does not make it different from the other 200,000 exclusive sites, then you will fail.
Anyone can open an affiliate program, takes something special to make it work.Comment
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