Fact checking Sarah Palin's Speech

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  • IllTestYourGirls
    Ah My Balls
    • Feb 2007
    • 14311

    #31
    Fact neo-cons are not conservative

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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #32
      Originally posted by tony404
      Well it seemed to me they liked slamming obama more than McCain so I fired up old google and found this:
      Before going on...

      Could it be, perhaps, that your own love for Obama clouds your objective judgement?

      In another thread, you said you'd take a bullet for the guy. Since that's the kind of thing people usually only feel about family members, it makes me question your objectivity in this particular case.

      To me, you seem similar to a loving parent who can't find a single flaw in his child.

      Originally posted by tony404
      We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters
      that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S.
      politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major
      U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches,
      interviews, and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices
      of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge
      and understanding.

      The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter
      Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the
      University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at
      the local, state, and federal levels.
      The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions,
      political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded
      primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

      It sounds nice enough, but the problem is it's funding couldn't come
      from a more partisan source. Despite a lengthy list of political
      donations, Leonore Annenberg, the Trustee of the foundation, and the
      late Walter Annenberg have never made a donation do a democratic
      candidate. Not ever. Here's the list of donations: (You can search for
      yourself here)

      [...]

      Please feel free to advise those media outlets that refer to this
      group as non-partisan that they are funded by a foundation created by
      a man that gave $5000 to the California Republican Party in 2000. Now
      the foundation which funds this non-partisan organization is run by
      his Leonore Annenberg, who is worth $2 billion - but she can't spare a
      Democrat a dime.
      Ad hominem.

      If you want to criticize the project, criticize it on its merits. Find flaws in the articles, numbers on articles critical of each candidate, etc.
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      • MrKinkade
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2005
        • 619

        #33
        Originally posted by tony404
        I find it funny they had the going over of obama's speech line by line the next day but for Sarah there is silence so far.
        thats because she didn't say anything except john mccain served our country... im in love with my man after 5 kids... i was a mayor in a small town im a gov. of ALASKA

        then started to beat up on obama... NOT one policy issue not one thing she wants to do while in office NOTHING just about her family and how mccain served in the vietnam war


        wanna join the best swingers club in Cincinnati go to http://www.club440online.com

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #34
          Originally posted by Libertine
          Before going on...

          Could it be, perhaps, that your own love for Obama clouds your objective judgement?

          In another thread, you said you'd take a bullet for the guy. Since that's the kind of thing people usually only feel about family members, it makes me question your objectivity in this particular case.

          To me, you seem similar to a loving parent who can't find a single flaw in his child.



          Ad hominem.

          If you want to criticize the project, criticize it on its merits. Find flaws in the articles, numbers on articles critical of each candidate, etc.
          Im at a coffee shop when I get home I will do a article count,if Im wrong I have no problem saying so.
          I know obama isnt pure he is a fucking politician and like all of them.you have to sell your soul to get anywhere. Ive been very unhappy with how ball less the democrats have been.
          That being said still think he is a better choice for the country.
          Also in my home state Im voting for a republican if he decides to run for gov.

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          • notoldschool
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 5687

            #35
            Originally posted by tony404
            like the right doesnt do this? please stop. Actually my friend you should be afraid of what happens if they win. News Flash you produce porn. Go look up porn under the reagan and nixon years.
            Tony the reason he doesnt care is because he makes less than a mcdonalds manager with his program. That is the only reason he can push for mccain and Palin so hard. He has no brains which again is obvious by what he is in this industry. nothing.
            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
            -- Learned Hand

            http://www.bjpenn.com

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            • bbm
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2005
              • 3710

              #36
              Nice speech. Is this her own?

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              • MrKinkade
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 619

                #37
                there is NOT one person dem or rep or IND thats going to go "yay PORN im for it fuck I whack off to it every night.. not only do I love it I think everyone should own some porn"

                the Porn industry should THRIVE off people who hold such a stern objection to the making and distrubution of porn... if you outlaw it or make it taboo that is what makes people want it.... tell a teen they cannot go out and see how fast they sneak out the window.. tell people they cannot own or look at porn see how fast it flies off shelves JMHO


                wanna join the best swingers club in Cincinnati go to http://www.club440online.com

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                • dig420
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 9240

                  #38
                  http://www.mediamatters.org

                  Just as liberals don't generally try to make elections about smearing their opponent, a la John Kerry and Al Gore, they generally don't tell baldfaced lies. I said GENERALLY, I'm sure exceptions can be found.

                  GENERALLY the Republicans are panderers and liars who have cobbled together a coalition of religious freaks, bigots and deeply stupid people who think abortion is more important than the budget. They love the gutter vicious, name-calling type of politics that the Repubs specialize in, while Democrats keep thinking that if they stay above it the people won't be fooled. That's their mistake. Obviously, people are very easily fooled.

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                  • dig420
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2001
                    • 9240

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Libertine
                    Before going on...

                    Could it be, perhaps, that your own love for Obama clouds your objective judgement?

                    In another thread, you said you'd take a bullet for the guy. Since that's the kind of thing people usually only feel about family members, it makes me question your objectivity in this particular case.

                    To me, you seem similar to a loving parent who can't find a single flaw in his child.



                    Ad hominem.

                    If you want to criticize the project, criticize it on its merits. Find flaws in the articles, numbers on articles critical of each candidate, etc.

                    It could be, perhaps, that he's aware the Republicans have a loooong history of funding 'non-partisan' research, think tanks, etc. that are actually just big PR machines. Like factcheck.

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                    • marketsmart
                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 20419

                      #40
                      Originally posted by leedsfan
                      i think you'll find checking facts is pretty important no matter what party you support. I have a site for sale that gets 50 billion uniques a minute, want to buy it...no need to check the facts though right?
                      how much for the site? if its as good as you say i will buy today...

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                      • Libertine
                        sex dwarf
                        • May 2002
                        • 17860

                        #41
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        Im at a coffee shop when I get home I will do a article count,if Im wrong I have no problem saying so.
                        I know obama isnt pure he is a fucking politician and like all of them.you have to sell your soul to get anywhere. Ive been very unhappy with how ball less the democrats have been.
                        That being said still think he is a better choice for the country.
                        Also in my home state Im voting for a republican if he decides to run for gov.
                        I just took a quick look myself, and you're pretty much wrong.

                        http://www.factcheck.org/archive/June_2008.html
                        http://www.factcheck.org/archive/July_2008.html
                        http://www.factcheck.org/archive/August_2008.html

                        There are actually slightly more articles that either defend Obama or criticize McCain than there are articles that defend McCain or criticize Obama.

                        In June it's about even, in July FC mostly made Republicans unhappy, and in August they mostly made Democrats unhappy.
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                        • theharvman
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 1366

                          #42
                          Obama 08!!!!!!
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                          • stickyfingerz
                            Doin fine
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 24984

                            #43
                            Originally posted by notoldschool
                            Tony the reason he doesnt care is because he makes less than a mcdonalds manager with his program. That is the only reason he can push for mccain and Palin so hard. He has no brains which again is obvious by what he is in this industry. nothing.
                            Wow its so easy for you to claim anyone else is nothing, while you put forth 0 about who you are, or what you do. Troll away Corn Trollio.

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                            • directfiesta
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 30135

                              #44
                              Originally posted by bbm
                              Nice speech. Is this her own?
                              Nope, Matthew Scully :

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Scully


                              She did insert an already over used and tested ( in Alaska ) joke of the " lipstick " .

                              She did deliver the speech vey well, mainly when you compare to what we have been exposed to from Dubya and McCain.
                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • klaze
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • May 2008
                                • 2167

                                #45
                                Someone checks the facts.. but who checks the fact checker??

                                oooo huh huh?

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