Fact checking Sarah Palin's Speech

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  • tony299
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #16
    Originally posted by Libertine
    When you want facts, reading partisan bloggers isn't exactly the most productive course of action.

    http://factcheck.org/ <- rather better.
    I find it funny they had the going over of obama's speech line by line the next day but for Sarah there is silence so far.

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    • directfiesta
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 30135

      #17
      The new FoxNews spin:

      " She runs the biggest state " ....

      So the governor of Alaska is way more qualified then the one of Florida, California or Texas because ... it is bigger ....

      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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      • pocketkangaroo
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2005
        • 8452

        #18
        Originally posted by directfiesta
        The new FoxNews spin:

        " She runs the biggest state " ....

        So the governor of Alaska is way more qualified then the one of Florida, California or Texas because ... it is bigger ....

        That's nothing. A guy on Fox News said that she had foreign policy experience because her state was close to Russia.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDmNk23vEYI

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        • Ayla_SquareTurtle
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 3550

          #19
          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
          Yup I agree. Thank God that the Dems are always 100% truthful. phew.
          I wasn't sticking up for the dems. I'm not one. I just don't understand the problem with making sure the things politicians say are actually true. That's the way it should be.
          gone. long gone.

          aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

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          • stickyfingerz
            Doin fine
            • Oct 2005
            • 24984

            #20
            Originally posted by Brujah
            Scary isn't it? That you're already to a point where you've fallen into blind faith so easily in politics and possibly religion? So much that you don't even consider whatever truths might be presented to you? I think that's the real danger.
            Pretty much an Atheist currently, and at least an Agnostic. Please try again.

            Cracks me up though to see all the people that think Dems support porn. Hysterical.

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            • TheSenator
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2003
              • 13340

              #21
              Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
              Conservatives in the porn industry, makes no sense at all.
              They must have some thing wrong in their thought process.
              ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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              • Brujah
                Beer Money Baron
                • Jan 2001
                • 22157

                #22
                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                Pretty much an Atheist currently, and at least an Agnostic. Please try again.
                I said you had blind faith in politics, based on your comments against fact finding to discover truth. I added POSSIBLY religion too? You stated otherwise. I have no reason not to believe you yet.

                Cracks me up though to see all the people that think Dems support porn. Hysterical.
                I don't think that Dems support porn. I did read about the War on Porn however, and how the Bush administration blamed Janet Reno and Clinton for being soft on porn and not pursuing obscenity prosecutions.

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                • tony299
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #23
                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                  Pretty much an Atheist currently, and at least an Agnostic. Please try again.

                  Cracks me up though to see all the people that think Dems support porn. Hysterical.
                  if you look at the facts not whats in your head. They dont support porn but they have better things to do with there time. Anytime we are fucked with its during republican admins not spin fact.
                  If it wasnt for Janet Reno thinking going after adult porn was a waste of resources you would be giving guitar lessons right now for aliving. lol
                  Last edited by tony286; 09-04-2008, 11:52 AM.

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                  • Libertine
                    sex dwarf
                    • May 2002
                    • 17860

                    #24
                    Originally posted by tony404
                    I find it funny they had the going over of obama's speech line by line the next day but for Sarah there is silence so far.
                    They'll get to her speech soon enough, and you can be entirely sure that they'll be fairly objective in shooting down lies and misleading statements.

                    While FactCheck might be wrong at times, when you start implying that they're partisan, it's time to look at just how objective you yourself are.
                    /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                    • tony299
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Brujah
                      I said you had blind faith in politics, based on your comments against fact finding to discover truth. I added POSSIBLY religion too? You stated otherwise. I have no reason not to believe you yet.



                      I don't think that Dems support porn. I did read about the War on Porn however, and how the Bush administration blamed Janet Reno and Clinton for being soft on porn and not pursuing obscenity prosecutions.
                      If 911 didnt happen porn was going to be job one for ashcroft. Also sticky talk to adam and eve during the reagan years spent over a million dollars fighting the government.

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                      • Brujah
                        Beer Money Baron
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 22157

                        #26
                        FactCheck is a good site. It's worth exploring their reviews. Of course, if you just want to debate partisan views.. avoid it because we all know you aren't really interested in the truth anyway.

                        Fight the Partisan Blind Faith!

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                        • tony299
                          lurker
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Libertine
                          They'll get to her speech soon enough, and you can be entirely sure that they'll be fairly objective in shooting down lies and misleading statements.

                          While FactCheck might be wrong at times, when you start implying that they're partisan, it's time to look at just how objective you yourself are.
                          Well it seemed to me they liked slamming obama more than McCain so I fired up old google and found this:

                          We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters
                          that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S.
                          politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major
                          U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches,
                          interviews, and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices
                          of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge
                          and understanding.

                          The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter
                          Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the
                          University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at
                          the local, state, and federal levels.
                          The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions,
                          political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded
                          primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

                          It sounds nice enough, but the problem is it's funding couldn't come
                          from a more partisan source. Despite a lengthy list of political
                          donations, Leonore Annenberg, the Trustee of the foundation, and the
                          late Walter Annenberg have never made a donation do a democratic
                          candidate. Not ever. Here's the list of donations: (You can search for
                          yourself here)

                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE RADNOR, PA 19087 ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          SANTORUM, RICHARD J
                          VIA SANTORUM 2006


                          06/24/2005
                          1000.00
                          25020261332


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION/TRUSTEE

                          MEIER, RAYMOND
                          VIA RAY MEIER FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE


                          11/07/2006
                          526.00
                          26940731526


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE
                          WAYNE, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION/TRUSTEE

                          SHAW, E CLAY JR
                          VIA FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW


                          11/04/2006
                          526.00
                          26930675393


                          ANNENBERG, WALTER H
                          ST DAVIDS, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN PARTY/V8


                          05/17/2000
                          5000.00
                          20035834450

                          Joint Fundraising Contributions

                          These are contributions to committees who are raising funds to be
                          distributed to other committees. The breakdown of these contributions
                          to their final recipients may appear below

                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION/TRUSTEE

                          2006 JOINT CANDIDATE COMMITTEE


                          10/27/2006
                          10000.00
                          26930595960


                          Total Joint Fundraising: 10000.00

                          Recipient of Joint Fundraiser Contributions

                          These are the Final Recipients of Joint Fundraising Contributions

                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          BLASDEL, CHUCK
                          VIA BLASDEL FOR CONGRESS


                          10/27/2006
                          526.00
                          26930710238

                          DEWINE, RICHARD MICHAEL
                          VIA MIKE DEWINE FOR US SENATE


                          11/06/2006
                          526.00
                          26021101154

                          MN-06 CONGRESSIONAL VICTORY COMMITTEE


                          11/02/2006
                          526.00
                          26930599050

                          NY-24 CONGRESSIONAL VICTORY COMMITTEE


                          11/02/2006
                          526.00
                          27990271976

                          SODREL, MICHAEL E.
                          VIA FRIENDS OF MIKE SODREL


                          11/04/2006
                          526.00
                          26940818710

                          WHALEN, MICHAEL LOUIS
                          VIA WHALEN FOR CONGRESS


                          10/27/2006
                          526.00
                          27940060726


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE
                          WAYNE, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          CHABOT, STEVE
                          VIA STEVE CHABOT FOR CONGRESS


                          11/04/2006
                          526.00
                          26930671845

                          CORKER, ROBERT P JR
                          VIA BOB CORKER FOR SENATE


                          12/07/2006
                          526.00
                          27020180023

                          GARD, JOHN G
                          VIA GARD FOR CONGRESS


                          11/05/2006
                          526.00
                          27930264792

                          ROSKAM, PETER
                          VIA ROSKAM FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE


                          10/27/2006
                          526.00
                          27930156452

                          SIMMONS, ROB
                          VIA SIMMONS FOR CONGRESS


                          11/04/2006
                          526.00
                          26940803885

                          WILSON, HEATHER A
                          VIA HEATHER WILSON FOR SENATE


                          11/06/2006
                          526.00
                          26940802379


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE MR
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          NORMAN, RALPH W MR. JR
                          VIA RALPH NORMAN FOR CONGRESS


                          10/27/2006
                          526.00
                          26950794441


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE MS.
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          RAINVILLE, MARTHA MS.
                          VIA MARTHA RAINVILLE FOR CONGRESS


                          11/06/2006
                          526.00
                          26930594404


                          ANNENBERG, LEONORE MS.
                          WAYNE, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          DAVIS, GEOFFREY C
                          VIA GEOFF DAVIS FOR CONGRESS


                          11/03/2006
                          526.00
                          26930719847


                          ANNENBERG, LOENORE
                          RADNOR, PA 19087
                          ANNENBERG FOUNDATION

                          IA-01 CONGRESSIONAL VICTORY COMMITTEE


                          10/27/2006
                          526.00
                          27930761039

                          Recipient Total: 8416.00

                          Please feel free to advise those media outlets that refer to this
                          group as non-partisan that they are funded by a foundation created by
                          a man that gave $5000 to the California Republican Party in 2000. Now
                          the foundation which funds this non-partisan organization is run by
                          his Leonore Annenberg, who is worth $2 billion - but she can't spare a
                          Democrat a dime.

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                          • nation-x
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 5370

                            #28
                            More facts

                            http://www.samefacts.com/archives/ca..._v_reality.php

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                            • pocketkangaroo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 8452

                              #29
                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                              Pretty much an Atheist currently, and at least an Agnostic. Please try again.

                              Cracks me up though to see all the people that think Dems support porn. Hysterical.
                              What makes you a conservative though? Serious question and not poking sticks. I have family that is and I understand their reasons. But what are your reasons?

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                              • directfiesta
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 30135

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                What makes you a conservative though? Serious question and not poking sticks. I have family that is and I understand their reasons. But what are your reasons?

                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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