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Old 08-30-2008, 06:35 AM  
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX View Post
do not try and turn that one around on me.

you used a picture of Hitler to illustate your point trying to prove good speakers are the equivalent of hitler.

I aint gonna argue with this highschool crap.

you used the pics not me. saying disclaimer lines like "im not trying to say but..." doesnt negate that.
If you thought my point was that good speakers are the equivalent of Hitler you're an idiot.

The other guy essentially said that history shows that charismatic speakers are good leaders. I disproved that point.

I didn't say all charismatic speakers are bad leaders, though - that would be a bizarre and plainly untrue statement.

I did say, however, that the more charismatic they are, the more you need to distrust them. An obvious truth, because the more charismatic someone is, the more likely he'd succeed at deceiving you if he wanted to.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX View Post
oh and not to mention the "people who follow obama are the same sheep"

claiming those who support obama are nazis? i mean come on, you need to go back to class or something
Nice job on totally missing the point, and completely misquoting me. I'd almost think you were illiterate.

A "zealous follower" is a zealot, a devotee, a fanatic. That is to say, someone who has given up his ability to critically view whatever he's following. Zealous followers are related to supporters in the same way that fundamentalists are related to the religious, or in the way that murderers are related to people with a bad temper.

And guess what? People who are inclined to religiously follow charismatic leaders are exactly the type of people who followed Hitler, Mussolini, Jim Jones, Lenin, etc. The majority of those people didn't support or even understand the ideas they were doing stupid stuff for. Once you lose the capacity for critical thought, you're a danger to the world.

So no, I'm not claiming that those who support Obama are nazis. I support Obama myself, for fuck's sake. What I'm saying is that religiously following politicians is really fucking dangerous.
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