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06-13-2006, 09:49 AM

You are nothing but a bunch of piece of shit slime bag. You make money because of women like her and you do not want to help?
Who the fuck are you?
Who the fuck are you to judge people's life?
How the fuck do you know the events in her life that made her need money at this time of tragedy?
You are all a bunch of heartless faggots

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06-13-2006, 09:51 AM

fuck that ho and fuck you too
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06-13-2006, 09:54 AM

Sad that her hubby died.

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06-13-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff

fuck that ho and fuck you too

Oh, you're a tough guy, heu?

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06-13-2006, 09:56 AM

Really sucks she lost her husband, and her kids lost their dad, she'll get decent donations, alot of people still care about helping others....

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06-13-2006, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by drctfiesta

Oh, you're a tough guy, heu?

Behind my keyboard I am all powerful.. Too bad her kids have to suffer for her stupidity.

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06-13-2006, 09:58 AM

How long ago did she WALK AWAY from the adult industry?
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06-13-2006, 10:03 AM

I am lucky to make 1/16 of what she does, and I have a life policy on my wife, and on myself. Its not much, but it will pay off the house, and for the funeral.

I dont feel bad for someone that did not plan for thier future

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06-13-2006, 10:05 AM

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06-13-2006, 10:06 AM

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cant believe this is such an issue...

I was thinking the same thing. If you want to give just do it. If you don't just shut up and stay out of the threads etc. I can never understand the drama around these issues unless it was outright fraud.

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06-13-2006, 10:07 AM

i agree !! anyone who slams someone in need at a time of crisis is a moron..

This girl is not an moron she is a very smart lady, even smart peope make mistakes ( not having life insurance ).

I could care less how the guy died or even if the guy died. She doesnt strike me as the type of person who would BEG for cash unless it was truly needed. I dont care if she smoked all her money away on crack.. ( and i highly doubt thats what happened ) .

After this is all done im sure she will regret having asked for help , because im sure she is more than capable of providing for her children and doesnt need the money , she is scared , she doesnt have her husband to help her make decisions and freaked out.

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06-13-2006, 10:10 AM

Perhaps the best thread you have made in a while!

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06-13-2006, 10:14 AM

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Perhaps the best thread you have made in a while!

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06-13-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by drctfiesta

You make money because of women like her and you do not want to help?

What does Asia Carerra have to do with my income and livelihood? Notta. I make money because I work for a living, not because Asia happens to be in the same industry as I. She may be a well-known name, but she's only one of a large collective.

Originally posted by drctfiesta

Who the fuck are you to judge people's life?

And who are YOU to judge whether people are heartless or not, simply because they express an opinion on the matter?

She brought all this on herself by posting pleas on her PUBLIC blog begging for donations - barely in the same short paragraph where she announced the death of her spouse. That puts the topic in the public realm for input and opinions.

The sudden loss of her husband is tragic, yes...and she has my sympathy and condolences. As for my money - no. But I'll gladly offer her free advice how to work towards providing for herself and children, rather than begging strangers on the web.

There's an old proverb that goes - give a person a fish, and they'll have food for a day. Teach a person to fish...and they'll have food for a lifetime. I've always found that to be sage advice.
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06-13-2006, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

She brought all this on herself by posting pleas on her PUBLIC blog begging for donations - barely in the same short paragraph where she announced the death of her spouse. That puts the topic in the public realm for input and opinions.

Yes, hers. Jeepers, people. If you don't want to give, don't. But to belittle someone at this low a point in their life is so incredibly useless.
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06-13-2006, 10:25 AM

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Yes, hers. Jeepers, people. If you don't want to give, don't. But to belittle someone at this low a point in their life is so incredibly useless.

You'd expect more from the kiddies at GFY?

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06-13-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by davethetruth

You'd expect more from the kiddies at GFY?

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06-13-2006, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

There's an old proverb that goes - give a person a fish, and they'll have food for a day. Teach a person to fish...and they'll have food for a lifetime. I've always found that to be sage advice.

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06-13-2006, 10:47 AM

I love how people just assume she's made or making tons of money. Apparently that isn't the case. Add that to a personality disorder that makes it nearly impossible for her to even leave her house, one baby on the way and a year old one already on hand, a horrible and unexpected death of her husband, and anyone could freak out at a time like this.

No one is holding people at gunpoint making them donate. If people don't want to, then stfu and mind your own business. Kicking someone when they are down is about as classless and tasteless as you can get.
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06-13-2006, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

What does Asia Carerra have to do with my income and livelihood? Notta. I make money because I work for a living, not because Asia happens to be in the same industry as I. She may be a well-known name, but she's only one of a large collective.

And who are YOU to judge whether people are heartless or not, simply because they express an opinion on the matter?

She brought all this on herself by posting pleas on her PUBLIC blog begging for donations - barely in the same short paragraph where she announced the death of her spouse. That puts the topic in the public realm for input and opinions.

The sudden loss of her husband is tragic, yes...and she has my sympathy and condolences. As for my money - no. But I'll gladly offer her free advice how to work towards providing for herself and children, rather than begging strangers on the web.

There's an old proverb that goes - give a person a fish, and they'll have food for a day. Teach a person to fish...and they'll have food for a lifetime. I've always found that to be sage advice.

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06-13-2006, 11:09 AM

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I have a life policy on my wife, and on myself

yeah, btw... i cant do that "thing" for you....
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06-13-2006, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Kicking someone when they are down is about as classless and tasteless as you can get.

Its not "kicking someone when they are down" - as much as questioning the motives.

Just because someone may be "down" doesn't insulate them from public opinions when they choose to make a public spectacle of begging strangers for support money within hours of their spouse's death.

You can label it "classless and tasteless" - that's your opinion. I think of it as people refusing to be outright gullible...and questioning her approach.

We constantly see stories in the media on a daily basis that point towards a society that can no longer take responsibility for their own individual failures or mistakes. A lot of people prefer to blame 'the other guy' for their personal misfortunes.

This story seems to be another example of someone who has failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves. And instead, is putting the burden of financial responsibility on donating strangers over the Internet.

I am far from being a heartless and uncaring individual - my track record over the years speaks for itself in that department. But I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future. I read that she's allegedly a Mensa member. If that's the case, how much intellectual prowess does it take to understand the importance of creating a nest egg?
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06-13-2006, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Its not "kicking someone when they are down" - as much as questioning the motives.

Just because someone may be "down" doesn't insulate them from public opinions when they choose to make a public spectacle of begging strangers for support money within hours of their spouse's death.

You can label it "classless and tasteless" - that's your opinion. I think of it as people refusing to be outright gullible...and questioning her approach.

We constantly see stories in the media on a daily basis that point towards a society that can no longer take responsibility for their own individual failures or mistakes. A lot of people prefer to blame 'the other guy' for their personal misfortunes.

This story seems to be another example of someone who has failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves. And instead, is putting the burden of financial responsibility on donating strangers over the Internet.

I am far from being a heartless and uncaring individual - my track record over the years speaks for itself in that department. But I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future. I read that she's allegedly a Mensa member. If that's the case, how much intellectual prowess does it take to understand the importance of creating a nest egg?

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06-13-2006, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by davethetruth

You'd expect more from the kiddies at GFY?

i have whole other reasons for already disliking her. I dont wish death on anyone but stupid people dont deserve my respect. As far as opening my mouth about it? Not nescasary. But fuck it im bored.
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06-13-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by davethetruth

You'd expect more from the kiddies at GFY?

Hate to break it to you I was on another board and the feelings were pretty much the same on this very subject. You plan for the future especially when you have kids.
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06-13-2006, 11:48 AM

i'm confused.

isn't she already kinda rich?

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06-13-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Its not "kicking someone when they are down" - as much as questioning the motives.

Just because someone may be "down" doesn't insulate them from public opinions when they choose to make a public spectacle of begging strangers for support money within hours of their spouse's death.

You can label it "classless and tasteless" - that's your opinion. I think of it as people refusing to be outright gullible...and questioning her approach.

We constantly see stories in the media on a daily basis that point towards a society that can no longer take responsibility for their own individual failures or mistakes. A lot of people prefer to blame 'the other guy' for their personal misfortunes.

This story seems to be another example of someone who has failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves. And instead, is putting the burden of financial responsibility on donating strangers over the Internet.

I am far from being a heartless and uncaring individual - my track record over the years speaks for itself in that department. But I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future. I read that she's allegedly a Mensa member. If that's the case, how much intellectual prowess does it take to understand the importance of creating a nest egg?

....so that just makes you a pompous ass - anyone can state after the fact that she and her late husband "failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves" - what other purpose does it serve to you, other than do be a smart ass, to make a stand on this issue and state "I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future." ?

Im not trying to be combative here or personally attack you - there are many others' comments who contributed to me finally posting.. but I am among those who are rather tired of smart-ass GFYers thinking that their insignificant, self-serving opinions on other peoples' lives actually have any value whatsoever.

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06-13-2006, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by tony404

Hate to break it to you I was on another board and the feelings were pretty much the same on this very subject. You plan for the future especially when you have kids.

Oh, I didn't realize there was 10 threads about this on every other board.

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06-13-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by tony404

Hate to break it to you I was on another board and the feelings were pretty much the same on this very subject. You plan for the future especially when you have kids.

That doesn't surprise me, Tony.

This is one of those issues that seems to polarize those of us who are older and have the financial responsibilities of spouses and kids - from those who only have themselves to be concerned about.

My wife and I work two jobs between us (sometimes three when I take on a second job occasionally) - to keep the bills paid, the food on the table, roof over the head, etc. Among those bills are life insurance premiums. We also set aside money for RRSPs, college funding for the kids and a modest stock portfolio investment we've been building for a rainy day. We carry a home mortgage and payments on two new vehicles.

All this, and my wife is on chemo meds at the same time for a debilitating form of degenerative rhumatoid arthritis and lupus. Some days she's in such rough shape she can barely walk. Some nights she gets no sleep because she's so sick to her stomach she spends hours throwing up in the bathroom - but still she perseveres and makes her way to work each morning.

Sometimes its a struggle, but we make ends meet.

Without the need to beg strangers online for money.

Its called fortitude.

I share this personal insight as a way of explaining why I have such difficulty finding much sympathy for the likes of people like Asia Carerra.
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06-13-2006, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

I am among those who are rather tired of smart-ass GFYers thinking that their insignificant, self-serving opinions on other peoples' lives actually have any value whatsoever.

Thats what this forum is for the most part, its Called Go Fuck Yourself for christs sake lol Also if you feel that way dont read them problem solved.
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06-13-2006, 12:06 PM

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fuck that ho and fuck you too

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06-13-2006, 12:07 PM

I don't know her... more than that, i dont think i've ever even seen her post on this board. Do you donate every time you see a tragic story in the news?

It's sad that her husband died... but no one should feel obligated to make donations to a complete stranger. I'm sure she's in alot better position than the hundreds of other people going through the exact same thing right now.

If i'm wrong and she does post/read here: I'm sorry for your loss very sad news...
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06-13-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

....so that just makes you a pompous ass - anyone can state after the fact that she and her late husband "failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves" - what other purpose does it serve to you, other than do be a smart ass, to make a stand on this issue and state "I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future." ?

Im not trying to be combative here or personally attack you - there are many others' comments who contributed to me finally posting.. but I am among those who are rather tired of smart-ass GFYers thinking that their insignificant, self-serving opinions on other peoples' lives actually have any value whatsoever.

Name calling doesn't merit the dignity of a response. If you can carry on a civil discussion like an adult and respect the opinions of others, I'd reciprocate that respect.
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06-13-2006, 12:12 PM

Everyone seems to bash Asia for getting OUT of the biz. Easy for the armchair pornographer to have this attitude. Try getting your ass fucked for a living.

I for one applaud her for getting out.

I can't say much for not having life insurance, that was dumb, but I will be donating a few bucks. I made tons off of the Asia DVD's on my sites back in the day. My license fees were small. I can throw her a bone.

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06-13-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

....so that just makes you a pompous ass - anyone can state after the fact that she and her late husband "failed to take responsibility for providing a safety net for themselves" - what other purpose does it serve to you, other than do be a smart ass, to make a stand on this issue and state "I'm among those who are rather tired of people who can't see past tomorrow and make some plans for the future." ?

Im not trying to be combative here or personally attack you - there are many others' comments who contributed to me finally posting.. but I am among those who are rather tired of smart-ass GFYers thinking that their insignificant, self-serving opinions on other peoples' lives actually have any value whatsoever.

I'll bet you don't even grasp your own irony.

Too funny.
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06-13-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Name calling doesn't merit the dignity of a response. If you can carry on a civil discussion like an adult and respect the opinions of others, I'd reciprocate that respect.

What else would you call it?

I hope it doesnt hurt when you fall off that high horse of yours. Obviously your years of experience have taught you nothing about benevolence - you know, selfless charity without judgement?

I can spend all day lecturing homeless people about how they shouldn't be homeless - and how they can receive job training and find housing, etc.. but you know what - im not in a position to "teach a man to fish".. i'll leave that to the religious folks, cause all the guy really wants is a warm meal.

So, you can sit there and tell the world how stupid and careless Asia Carerra and her late husband were for not having life insurance - but, like the homeless guy who who just wants to eat - all she was asking for was a little help. Your financial advice wont help her one bit at this point and is equivalent to lecturing the homeless guy about how to suceed in life while he starves.

Everyone has there problems - you want Cancer stories? my 26 year old girlfriend has cancer too and we're fighting through it.. we're not begging for donations either... but im not sitting here behind my keyboard casting judgement on someone who is in obvious distress.

People "the likes of asia carerra" (as you so eloquently put it) are no less a person than you or I, although you seem to disagree.

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06-13-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Vasago Reno

I'll bet you don't even grasp your own irony.

Too funny.

How much?

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06-13-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff

Behind my keyboard I am all powerful.. Too bad her kids have to suffer for her stupidity.

You are sick...sitting at home in your dark place, hiding from the world behind your computer at your little desk...how sad...I would love to see you make those comments to her face, in front of her little girl....you dirtbag!
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06-13-2006, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

What else would you call it?

I hope it doesnt hurt when you fall off that high horse of yours. Obviously your years of experience have taught you nothing about benevolence - you know, selfless charity without judgement?

I can spend all day lecturing homeless people about how they shouldn't be homeless - and how they can receive job training and find housing, etc.. but you know what - im not in a position to "teach a man to fish".. i'll leave that to the religious folks, cause all the guy really wants is a warm meal.

So, you can sit there and tell the world how stupid and careless Asia Carerra and her late husband were for not having life insurance - but, like the homeless guy who who just wants to eat - all she was asking for was a little help. Your financial advice wont help her one bit at this point and is equivalent to lecturing the homeless guy about how to suceed in life while he starves.

Everyone has there problems - you want Cancer stories? my 26 year old girlfriend has cancer too and we're fighting through it.. we're not begging for donations either... but im not sitting here behind my keyboard casting judgement on someone who is in obvious distress.

People "the likes of asia carerra" (as you so eloquently put it) are no less a person than you or I, although you seem to disagree.

And how much have you donated to Asia, Mr. Benevolence?

Or are you just words on a forum?
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06-13-2006, 12:32 PM

I think its good to help other people anyway its good to realize who is gonna help you 1 day before sending funds....

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06-13-2006, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Skillz Unlimited

I thought that was pretty funny

haha i laughed super hard too

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06-13-2006, 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=Brad Gosse]Everyone seems to bash Asia for getting OUT of the biz. Easy for the armchair pornographer to have this attitude. Try getting your ass fucked for a living.
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that's easy she decided to get her ass fucked for a living. no one told her too. nothing to complain about here

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06-13-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Vasago Reno

And how much have you donated to Asia, Mr. Benevolence?

Or are you just words on a forum?

$50 - a small token. Want me to forward the paypal receipt? Nice try, smart ass.

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06-13-2006, 12:40 PM

SilentKnight summed it up and just saved me a lot of typing. Thanks.

To the socialists that believe idiots should be bailed out when they fuck up: Congrats. Donate all you want. No one gives a shit if you DO donate. So touche.
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06-13-2006, 12:41 PM

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06-13-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

I can spend all day lecturing homeless people about how they shouldn't be homeless - and how they can receive job training and find housing, etc.. but you know what - im not in a position to "teach a man to fish".. i'll leave that to the religious folks, cause all the guy really wants is a warm meal.

Then give him 5 bucks every time you see him and let him live through a cycle that will just lead to a slow and painful death. Personally I will give him nothing, and offer the following advice: Get a fucking job, and buy your own food like everyone else.

It's their choice if they do or not, and if they don't - I look to a wise man named Darwin who once said: "In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment."
Survival of the fittest. Some of us live, some of us die. That's life. You can decide what is morally right and wrong in your life, and leave judging other people out of it - because no one gives 2 shits what you do or don't think of them and their lives.
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06-13-2006, 12:45 PM

I was not surprised at all by the response. People may say don't donate because they should have had life insurance and stuff of that nature.

But I feel the real fuel burning the fire was the post she made. It just was kinda sleezy. Fair or not...it portrayed a woman who was looking to make money off her husband's death....not a widow who just lost her life partner.

If she came out and said "Man, i was out of my mind the other day. I can't believe I sounded like such a money hungry whore. I've collected my thoughts and this is what I was meaning to say..."

If she did that, she'd have a donation from Bluewire Studio LLC. But at this time...it just rubs me the wrong way too much
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#48

06-13-2006, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by BradM

Then give him 5 bucks every time you see him and let him live through a cycle that will just lead to a slow and painful death. Personally I will give him nothing, and offer the following advice: Get a fucking job, and buy your own food like everyone else.

It's their choice if they do or not, and if they don't - I look to a wise man named Darwin who once said: "In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment."
Survival of the fittest. Some of us live, some of us die. That's life. You can decide what is morally right and wrong in your life, and leave judging other people out of it - because no one gives 2 shits what you do or don't think of them and their lives.

I have a simple viewpoint on this.

Case A: Say "Get a fucking job, and buy your own food like everyone else."

Result - nothing. Status Quo.

Case B: Give the guy $5

Result: guy eats, i'm out $5

Case C: Give the guy a job or go get him job training, etc.. etc.. make him a productive member of society.

Best case: C

Cases within my circle of influence: A & B

Case with greatest net benefit of two parties involved: Case B.

I died.
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06-13-2006, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

I hope it doesnt hurt when you fall off that high horse of yours. Obviously your years of experience have taught you nothing about benevolence - you know, selfless charity without judgement?

I know plenty about benevolence. I also know about gullibility and good judgement. The two mutually co-exist. If you spend your time blindly donating to any cause that pops up...without questioning or researching the cause - then that's your perrogative. We don't all subscribe to your way of thinking.

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

I can spend all day lecturing homeless people about how they shouldn't be homeless - and how they can receive job training and find housing, etc.. but you know what - im not in a position to "teach a man to fish".. i'll leave that to the religious folks, cause all the guy really wants is a warm meal.

That's a noble sentiment. Will you also be there tomorrow to provide another meal? And the day after that? Next week, too?

So while you're lecturing ME on being judgemental - have YOU donated yet? This isn't a challenge - simply a question.

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

Everyone has there problems - you want Cancer stories? my 26 year old girlfriend has cancer too and we're fighting through it.. we're not begging for donations either... but im not sitting here behind my keyboard casting judgement on someone who is in obvious distress.

Firstly, sorry to hear of your girlfriend's condition - and hope the fight is going well and that she overcomes it.

As for "passing judgement" on Asia's donation campaign - like I said above, she's brought that on herself by going public with it. Perhaps you prefer to unquestioningly give donations to every person who comes along with a sad tale. That's fine. All the power to you. If naive benevolence helps you sleep better at night - knock yourself out.

Myself, I've been around the block enough times to be skeptical and wary of it all. I guess I must be a product of my environment that way.
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06-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

I have a simple viewpoint on this.

Case A: Say "Get a fucking job, and buy your own food like everyone else."

Result - nothing. Status Quo.

Case B: Give the guy $5

Result: guy eats, i'm out $5

Case C: Give the guy a job or go get him job training, etc.. etc.. make him a productive member of society.

Best case: C

Cases within my circle of influence: A & B

Case with greatest net benefit of two parties involved: Case B.

Were you MJ in a former life? If that's the case, you're the last person on the planet who should be lecturing someone about their morality or lack of it.
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