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  • mardigras
    Bon temps!
    • Feb 2003
    • 14194
    #1

    Karl Rove pardoned for any wrongdoing, off to work on midterm elections

    They needed him to focus on keeping the republicans in power for the midterm elections so some behind the scenes wheeling and dealing was done and he is now cleared of any suspicions...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1O3t4&refer=us

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1O3t4&refer=us
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    • pussyluver
      Clueless OleMan
      • Mar 2003
      • 11009
      #2
      The Democrats will bitch no doubt. Politics.....

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        • 12clicks
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2001
          • 19814
          #3
          uh, he wasn't pardoned, he was cleared.
          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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            • RogerV10
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                • mardigras
                  Bon temps!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 14194
                  #5
                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                  uh, he wasn't pardoned, he was cleared.
                  No, cleared would indicate that they determined there wasn't enough evidence to charge him on. If you read the coverage of it it says the decision came after high pressure meetings with his attorneys and the prosecutor, after which the prosecutor announced he would not be bringing any charges against Mr. Rove. That, my friend, is a pardon, even if not ceremoniously or officially declared one.

                  Just semantics though, as much as "not guilty" doesn't always equal "innocent"
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                    • 12clicks
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 19814
                      #6
                      Originally posted by mardigras
                      No, cleared would indicate that they determined there wasn't enough evidence to charge him on. If you read the coverage of it it says the decision came after high pressure meetings with his attorneys and the prosecutor, after which the prosecutor announced he would not be bringing any charges against Mr. Rove. That, my friend, is a pardon, even if not ceremoniously or officially declared one.

                      Just semantics though, as much as "not guilty" doesn't always equal "innocent"
                      no, if you read the coverage, you'll not see the word pardon used. that my friend, is YOUR word. When a prosecutor decides not to prosecute, he knows he doesn't have a case.
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • mardigras
                          Bon temps!
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 14194
                          #7
                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                          no, if you read the coverage, you'll not see the word pardon used. that my friend, is YOUR word. When a prosecutor decides not to prosecute, he knows he doesn't have a case.
                          Normally when a prosecutor dismisses a case for lack of evidence he makes that fact known on public record.
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                            • mardigras
                              Bon temps!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 14194
                              #8
                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                              no, if you read the coverage, you'll not see the word pardon used. that my friend, is YOUR word.
                              I used some other words in my post that did not appear in the article

                              If it walks like a duck....
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                                • 12clicks
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 19814
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                  Normally when a prosecutor dismisses a case for lack of evidence he makes that fact known on public record.
                                  I don't understand your reasoning for this argument. I know you're unhappy about it because you hate Bush but at the end of the day, if the evidence showed he broke the law, he'd be prosecuted. Obviously, the evidence did NOT show he broke the law.
                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                    • crockett
                                      in a van by the river
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 76818
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                      no, if you read the coverage, you'll not see the word pardon used. that my friend, is YOUR word. When a prosecutor decides not to prosecute, he knows he doesn't have a case.
                                      Yea so OJ never did it either right.. Just because fuck offs that ruin our country like Karl Rove have enough money to buy their way out of jail, doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                        • Joesho
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                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 12329
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                          Yea so OJ never did it either right.. Just because fuck offs that ruin our country like Karl Rove have enough money to buy their way out of jail, doesn't mean they aren't guilty.

                                          don't try to make sence to 12clicks about politics.....


                                          it only gives him a headache and confuses him even more.
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                                            • mardigras
                                              Bon temps!
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 14194
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                              I don't understand your reasoning for this argument. I know you're unhappy about it because you hate Bush
                                              What does my feelings about Bush have to do with this story?
                                              I don't "hate" Bush... I don't approve of many things he's done or supports but that would be true of anyone in the White House doing similar, regardless of political affiliation.
                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                              but at the end of the day, if the evidence showed he broke the law, he'd be prosecuted. Obviously, the evidence did NOT show he broke the law.
                                              Until the prosecutor publicly notes that the case was dismissed due to lack of evidence it sounds more like a "plea bargain" went on behind those closed doors. Why would this prosecutor not end 3 years of public & political slander Mr. Rove has suffered by making it public record if he was truly and conclusively cleared of any wrongdoing?
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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19814
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Joesho
                                                  don't try to make sence to 12clicks about politics.....


                                                  it only gives him a headache and confuses him even more.
                                                  hmmmm, yes, again, I have the facts on my side but again, I'm wrong and confused.
                                                  ok.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                    • 12clicks
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 19814
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                      Until the prosecutor publicly notes that the case was dismissed due to lack of evidence it sounds more like a "plea bargain" went on behind those closed doors. Why would this prosecutor not end 3 years of public & political slander Mr. Rove has suffered by making it public record if he was truly and conclusively cleared of any wrongdoing?
                                                      um, there was no plea bargain and the prosecutor, after looking over the facts, decided not to prosecute. Now you can pretend that means anything you want but it really only means one thing, there was no evidence of guilt. period.
                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                        • The Truth Hurts
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 15770
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Joesho
                                                          don't try to make sence to 12clicks about politics.....
                                                          ...or Joesho, about the spelling of simple words.

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                                                            • crockett
                                                              in a van by the river
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 76818
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                              hmmmm, yes, again, I have the facts on my side but again, I'm wrong and confused.
                                                              ok.
                                                              so in other words OJ didn't do it?
                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                • stickyfingerz
                                                                  Doin fine
                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                  • 24984
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                  No, cleared would indicate that they determined there wasn't enough evidence to charge him on. If you read the coverage of it it says the decision came after high pressure meetings with his attorneys and the prosecutor, after which the prosecutor announced he would not be bringing any charges against Mr. Rove. That, my friend, is a pardon, even if not ceremoniously or officially declared one.

                                                                  Just semantics though, as much as "not guilty" doesn't always equal "innocent"
                                                                  You are wrong..

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                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 19814
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                      so in other words OJ didn't do it?
                                                                      no, in other words, there *was* enough evidence of his guilt to bring him to trial and there *was not* enough evidence of Rove's guilt to bring him to trial.

                                                                      son, do you really think you're the one who will talk me into a corner?

                                                                      you're not Neo, you're more one of the guys who get unplugged while sleeping in the chair.
                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 14194
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                          there was no evidence of guilt. period.
                                                                          A series of meetings between Mr. Luskin and Mr. Fitzgerald and his team proved pivotal in dissuading the prosecutor from bringing charges.
                                                                          http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/wa...rtner=homepage
                                                                          Now why do you suppose they had to go through those meetings to dissuade the prosecutor from bringing charges if "there was no evidence of guilt. period"?

                                                                          The 2nd page of the article above timelines what he was accused of lying about and the documents that proved it. Then again, he may be as forgetful as he claimed. Maybe he can't remember phone conversations but his memory works everywhere else enough to be able to a major player in the political arena... weird.
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                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 14194
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                                                              You are wrong..
                                                                              What part of my post are you referring to?
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                                                                                • mardigras
                                                                                  Bon temps!
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 14194
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Charles Schumer is holding a press conference now. He says it is the obligation of the prosecutor in a case like this to release his findings and detail why he came to his decision. I agree 100%.

                                                                                  If there was no evidence, say it.
                                                                                  Last edited by mardigras; 06-13-2006, 06:40 AM.
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                                                                                    • Ordo
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                                                                                      • Apr 2004
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      To this day I truly do wonder what type of person it takes to continue to support such a sadistic, corrupt, greedy and evil administration hell bent on destroying the world around them for personal gain.

                                                                                      I'll never understand it. It really does put a sunken feeling in my gut when I see people blindly defending Bush or any of his corrupt associates.

                                                                                      It makes no sense at all.
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                                                                                        • Linkster
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                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 3216
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Actually both sides here in this thread are wrong - nothing has been said other than Roves lawyer - which doesnt mean shit - could just be a publicity stunt as far as anyone knows.

                                                                                          When a statement is put out by the prosecuter then it will be real news
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                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 19814
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                              Maybe he can't remember phone conversations but his memory works everywhere else enough to be able to a major player in the political arena... weird.
                                                                                              this is the fault with the Bush haters crowd.

                                                                                              If I asked you for exact details of things you typed here years ago, could you provide them?
                                                                                              I couldn't.

                                                                                              people have bumped old threads and I've seen my old posts and thought someone hacked my account until I saw the date.

                                                                                              He's supposed to be different?
                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 19814
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Ordo
                                                                                                  To this day I truly do wonder what type of person it takes to continue to support such a sadistic, corrupt, greedy and evil administration hell bent on destroying the world around them for personal gain.

                                                                                                  I'll never understand it. It really does put a sunken feeling in my gut when I see people blindly defending Bush or any of his corrupt associates.

                                                                                                  It makes no sense at all.
                                                                                                  blindly?

                                                                                                  whats truly sad is how so many kids have bought into the whole leftist view of things.
                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 14194
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                      whats truly sad is how so many kids have bought into the whole leftist view of things.
                                                                                                      What's so leftist about wanting the same public record on a case that any other investigation would get?
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                                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                          • 14194
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                          If I asked you for exact details of things you typed here years ago, could you provide them?
                                                                                                          I couldn't.
                                                                                                          I would remember the conversation, if not the details... not deny my remarks until you produced the post to prove me wrong, then say, "Oh, I forgot".
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                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 19814
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                              What's so leftist about wanting the same public record on a case that any other investigation would get?
                                                                                                              uh, this reply wasn'y aimed at you.

                                                                                                              however, I'd be embarrassed to ever side with that clown schumer
                                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19814
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                  I would remember the conversation, if not the details... not deny my remarks until you produced the post to prove me wrong, then say, "Oh, I forgot".
                                                                                                                  well you're a better man than the rest of us.
                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                      no, in other words, there *was* enough evidence of his guilt to bring him to trial and there *was not* enough evidence of Rove's guilt to bring him to trial.

                                                                                                                      son, do you really think you're the one who will talk me into a corner?

                                                                                                                      you're not Neo, you're more one of the guys who get unplugged while sleeping in the chair.
                                                                                                                      no dad I think you will be the one that talks yourself into a corner..
                                                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 14194
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                          uh, this reply wasn'y aimed at you.

                                                                                                                          however, I'd be embarrassed to ever side with that clown schumer
                                                                                                                          Even a broken clock is right a couple times a day
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                                                                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 14194
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                              well you're a better man than the rest of us.
                                                                                                                              Tell me something I don't already know
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                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                  Even a broken clock is right a couple times a day
                                                                                                                                  then get off my back, Hans Brix!
                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 19814
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                      Tell me something I don't already know
                                                                                                                                      if only you know it, is it really known?

                                                                                                                                      man, thats like my second keanu reeves reference. thats freeky.
                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          That's hillarious ... tin foil hat march, 12pm!

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                                                                                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                              then get off my back, Hans Brix!
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                                                                                                                                                • mardigras
                                                                                                                                                  Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                  That's hillarious ... tin foil hat march, 12pm!
                                                                                                                                                  Nah, It's not a conspiracy... yet

                                                                                                                                                  Now if the prosecutor maintains silence...

                                                                                                                                                  I'm curious to see the next White House press conference. Since Tony Snow is with the president in Iraq that probably won't happen until he returns.
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                                                                                                                                                    • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                      Nah, It's not a conspiracy... yet

                                                                                                                                                      Now if the prosecutor maintains silence...

                                                                                                                                                      I'm curious to see the next White House press conference. Since Tony Snow is with the president in Iraq that probably won't happen until he returns.
                                                                                                                                                      Who the fuck cares? Did you REALLY expect him to do time?!

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                                                                                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                          Who the fuck cares? Did you REALLY expect him to do time?!
                                                                                                                                                          I wasn't "expecting" anything... except the course of due process. When (if) the prosecutor makes the basis for his decision public record it's very well likely there is no story here. Even the staunchest supporter of this administration must surely see that it would be improper to dispose of the case in secrecy.
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                                                                                                                                                            • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                              I wasn't "expecting" anything... except the course of due process. When (if) the prosecutor makes the basis for his decision public record it's very well likely there is no story here. Even the staunchest supporter of this administration must surely see that it would be improper to dispose of the case in secrecy.
                                                                                                                                                              Yeah right. Senators can have $90,000 in the freezers and claim it's a "black" thing?

                                                                                                                                                              Representatives can assault capital police and claim it's because of "bad hair?"

                                                                                                                                                              And in THAT world, Karl Rove is going to go through "due process?"

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                                                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                  I wasn't "expecting" anything... except the course of due process. When (if) the prosecutor makes the basis for his decision public record it's very well likely there is no story here. Even the staunchest supporter of this administration must surely see that it would be improper to dispose of the case in secrecy.
                                                                                                                                                                  not so sure about that. if his decision is based on his grad jury testimony, it would be improper for him to comment on it.

                                                                                                                                                                  Of course, this is most likely why schumer said anything, to embarrass the proceedings on false grounds.
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah right. Senators can have $90,000 in the freezers and claim it's a "black" thing?

                                                                                                                                                                      Representatives can assault capital police and claim it's because of "bad hair?"

                                                                                                                                                                      And in THAT world, Karl Rove is going to go through "due process?"
                                                                                                                                                                      Have either of those cases been dismissed?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                          Have either of those cases been dismissed?
                                                                                                                                                                          They're Democrats -- the media will sweep it under the rug.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • mardigras
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                              not so sure about that. if his decision is based on his grad jury testimony, it would be improper for him to comment on it.

                                                                                                                                                                              Of course, this is most likely why schumer said anything, to embarrass the proceedings on false grounds.
                                                                                                                                                                              He can say, "I dismissed the case due to lack of evidence I felt to be prosecutable", without discussing the details of any testimony.

                                                                                                                                                                              Ignore for a moment that Schumer said the words, do you not agree that the reason for the decision should be revealed? It would publicly clear Karl Rove and defuse the issue, both publicly and politically. Win/Win, for everyone involved, including the American public who should be told in a case involving their government.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • mardigras
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                                                                                                                                                  They're Democrats -- the media will sweep it under the rug.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I guarantee you the activist media will not let the outcome of those cases go unknown
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                                      He can say, "I dismissed the case due to lack of evidence I felt to be prosecutable", without discussing the details of any testimony.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ignore for a moment that Schumer said the words, do you not agree that the reason for the decision should be revealed? It would publicly clear Karl Rove and defuse the issue, both publicly and politically. Win/Win, for everyone involved, including the American public who should be told in a case involving their government.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I honestly think its irrelevant.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm prepared to believe the prosecutor. I'm not prepared to case after conspiracy theories.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • mardigras
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                          I honestly think its irrelevant.
                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm prepared to believe the prosecutor. I'm not prepared to case after conspiracy theories.
                                                                                                                                                                                          You never addressed this:

                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                          there was no evidence of guilt. period.
                                                                                                                                                                                          A series of meetings between Mr. Luskin and Mr. Fitzgerald and his team proved pivotal in dissuading the prosecutor from bringing charges.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                                          Now why do you suppose they had to go through those meetings to dissuade the prosecutor from bringing charges if "there was no evidence of guilt. period"?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Rhino22
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Politics is a nasty little game. I stick to porn.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  And BTW, as far as conspiracy theories, 12clicks, people get immunity for cooperation all the time. No biggie if that's the case here. They need to be forthcoming though.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • spunkmaster
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I wasn't "expecting" anything... except the course of due process. When (if) the prosecutor makes the basis for his decision public record it's very well likely there is no story here. Even the staunchest supporter of this administration must surely see that it would be improper to dispose of the case in secrecy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's against Federal law for Fitzidiot to make any statements or reports based on Grand Jury procedings.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fucking Schumer wants him to break the law for the wack jobs out there in La La land !

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