.....and non-protection of the President in Florida being the biggest tip-offs.....
Yeah, Bush went into the air a short time later and refused to return to Washington. I believe this is called "Looking glass" for when something along these lines happen when the President is on the road. They put him up in the air on Air Force One and can keep him up there for months if needed.
Yea Kandah offers nothing useful to this forum besides his anti Bush Rhetoric which nobody cares about anymore.
It is because the American people do not care anymore that put them into the predicament they are in now. If we don't care, who will? It is your job to care, to question your goverment and to ask questions.
Look idiot... Are you that dumb enough to think that smart people could not pull this off? Do you really think goofy and mickey mouse would try something like this... An evil genius could pull something like this off fairly easily... you think they would go, hey we are going to blow up the WTC, go get that ACME TNT and put it under the desks so nobody sees it... FFS This was YEARS AND YEARS of planning... EVER HEARD OF PNAC? http://www.newamericancentury.org/
taken from the site:
The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.
Originally posted by FunForOne
- Almost every engineering school in the country has either been looking into the collapse or using it as a case study. No college (not even Texas A&M who released this statement) has gone on record saying anything different about the collapse. This means either, they are correct or the next generation of engineers who will be building our buildings aren't qualified to put up woodsheds. I find it unlikely that we've universally trained a generations of idiots incapable of understanding gravity, at least not at the college level. K-12... well... let's not go there.
- In order to have a controlled demolishing of a building, it requires a large effort that would be very hard to keep secret and certainly take very long to set up if it were to be kept secret. For instance, there would be no way to set it up in 8 months if it were Bush or someone who came to office with him. I know, however, if I saw people carrying boxes of dynamite in the building back when I was working in the Sears Tower, I would have started working from home.
- Gag order or no gag order, I refuse to believe that the entire police and fire departments of New York would honor them and simply stay quiet about it. There has been no media organization that has received any "anonymous leaks". Both of those organizations lost people on 9/11, and I know if I were a cop and someone bureaucrat gave me a gag order like that I would arrest him. He'd be lucky if I got to him first. (Any cops want to back me up on that? Would you stomach someone telling you to shut up about your cop friends getting blown up by the man?)
This guys expertise is in the economics of crime and punishment that is clear. It's doubtful that he's got any experience in demolitions or civil engineering. Why would he say stuff like this? Maybe he was booted out of Labor on bad terms, maybe he wants attention (it worked for Ward Churchill), who knows. 9/11 conspiracies have become a cottage industry thought. What I do know is that this scenario is highly unlikely and if it was an "inside job" it would have had to be started before Bush got into office.
yes lets not forget Marvin Bush taking over control of all security to the towers the months before the attack
first offical point of business..removal of all bomb sniffing dogs.
and the shutting down excep to all qualified personel.(from his team) to lower levels and many areas inside the building.
Yeah, Bush went into the air a short time later and refused to return to Washington. I believe this is called "Looking glass" for when something along these lines happen when the President is on the road. They put him up in the air on Air Force One and can keep him up there for months if needed.
They're talking about not pulling him out of the classroom right away.
yes lets not forget Marvin Bush taking over control of all security to the towers the months before the attack
first offical point of business..removal of all bomb sniffing dogs.
and the shutting down excep to all qualified personel.(from his team) to lower levels and many areas inside the building.
you been duped...and you dont seem to care
Do you have a credible source on that? I've heard it but so far it's just word of mouth to me. If proved that could be the smoking gun. Even cowards like the kid who keeps repeating himself in this thread couldn't talk themselves into denying that.
The only people that care are NON-Americans lol dont you people get it? This thread is FUNNY not important lol.
What the fuck? I'm an American, I can care when my government murders other citizens in my city. So are almost all of the thousands of 9/11 truth activists. You just can't tell because instead of living in the real world you think that TV is reality.
Do you have a credible source on that? I've heard it but so far it's just word of mouth to me. If proved that could be the smoking gun. Even cowards like the kid who keeps repeating himself in this thread couldn't talk themselves into denying that.
here is the first link i found....look there are other more credible sources
Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United
by Margie Burns
George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.
The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a ``completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center ``up to the day the buildings fell down."
It also had a three-year contract to maintain electronic security systems at Dulles Airport, according to a Dulles contracting official. Securacom/Stratesec also handled some security for United Airlines in the 1990s, according to McDaniel, but it had been completed before his arriving on the board in 1998.
McDaniel confirmed that the company has security contracts with the Department of Defense, including the U.S. Army, but did not detail the nature of the work, citing security concerns. It has an ongoing line with the General Services Administration - meaning that its bids for contracts are noncompetitive - and also did security work for the Los Alamos laboratory before 1998.
Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000. But the White House has not publicly disclosed Bush connections in any of its responses to 9/11, nor has it mentioned that another Bush-linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked.
Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.
KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.
The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.
Marvin Bush's last year on the board at Stratesec coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002.
But none of these connections has been looked at during the extensive investigations since 9/11. McDaniel says principals and other personnel at Stratesec have not been questioned or debriefed by the FBI or other investigators. Walker declined to answer the same question regarding KuwAm, referring to the public record.
Walker is also chairman and CEO of Aviation General, a Tulsa, Okla.-based aviation company with two subsidiaries. SEC filings also show al Sabah as a principal and shareholder in Aviation General, which was recently delisted by the Nasdaq. Stratesec was delisted by the American Stock Exchange in October 2002.
The suite in which Marvin Bush was annually re-elected, according to public records, is located in the Watergate in space leased to the Saudi government. The company now holds shareholder meetings in space leased by the Kuwaiti government there. The White House has not responded to various requests for comment.
Speaking of the Watergate, Riggs National Bank, where Saudi Princess Al-Faisal had her ``Saudi money trail" bank account, has as one of its executives Jonathan Bush, an uncle of the president. The public has not learned whether Riggs - which services 95 percent of Washington's foreign embassies - will be turning over records relating to Saudi finance.
Meanwhile, Bush has nominated William H. Donaldson to head the Securities and Exchange Commission. Donaldson, a longtime Bush family friend, was a Yale classmate of Jonathan Bush.
On the very day of the tragic space shuttle crash, the government appointed an independent investigative panel, and rightly so. Why didn't it do the same on Sept. 12, 2001?
Didn't all the smart people who went to college become Medical Practitioners, lawyers and dentists. The other also rans become economists, etc who ran around calling themselves doctors of this and that because they want to pretend they are smart when they aren't really.
This Reynolds appears fits the latter mold. Have you ever heard of an economist being correct on any matter. I studied economics at University here in Australia. All the lecturers and Professors were full of shit, no commonsense and full of their own self importance. They were all desperate to be discovered as some great guru or power.
Go Reynolds...a doctor my ass. Amazing as this might sound, Bush probably sacked him for being a dumb shit with no commonsense.
Lyn
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Didn't all the smart people who went to college become Medical Practitioners, lawyers and dentists. The other also rans become economists, etc who ran around calling themselves doctors of this and that because they want to pretend they are smart when they aren't really.
This Reynolds appears fits the latter mold. Have you ever heard of an economist being correct on any matter. I studied economics at University here in Australia. All the lecturers and Professors were full of shit, no commonsense and full of their own self importance. They were all desperate to be discovered as some great guru or power.
Go Reynolds...a doctor my ass. Amazing as this might sound, Bush probably sacked him for being a dumb shit with no commonsense.
Lyn
assumptions will lead you far brainiac... you should think about becoming a... uh.. pet detective... or clairvoyant... lol
you own a news agency or paper you are about to print a story..when pictures ofy our wife show up as she goes abouther daily routine
handwritten note says..want to see her again? or they show up and put a gun to your head..and say playball fucknut..you think this is a free country?
In our country the mainstream press is an adjunct of the government and the military industrial complex. The media can't oppose our government in any real sense. If people are hoping that eventually the mainstream media will be forced to participate in this debate, they're wasting their time. They have almost as much at stake as the perpetrators do. No matter how much evidence comes out linking powerful Americans to this attack, the press would go down with the ship. Basically right now the press is there to help the government control their citizens, to protect the government.
Becauses its a lie, because its not true, because its a bunch of fucking loons running around pointing fingers?
I still can't believe that there are people out there who think that the US media reports the truth. Start paying attention. Write down something that they report today, and in two years, tell me if it turned out to be true. Idiot.
A big problem is that most Americans have a 15 minute attention span, so they forget what the media told them a year ago. All they can remember is who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.
In our country the mainstream press is an adjunct of the government and the military industrial complex. The media can't oppose our government in any real sense. If people are hoping that eventually the mainstream media will be forced to participate in this debate, they're wasting their time. They have almost as much at stake as the perpetrators do. No matter how much evidence comes out linking powerful Americans to this attack, the press would go down with the ship. Basically right now the press is there to help the government control their citizens, to protect the government.
Im bored so Im going to comment on your post, LOL no offense but you need a fucking life. Oh and I can read your brainwaves right now you may want to tighten that tinfoil hat. What a bunch of loons.
Im bored so Im going to comment on your post, LOL no offense but you need a fucking life. Oh and I can read your brainwaves right now you may want to tighten that tinfoil hat. What a bunch of loons.
I'm glad you're happy being a useless waste of life. Go watch some TV.
In our country the mainstream press is an adjunct of the government and the military industrial complex. The media can't oppose our government in any real sense. If people are hoping that eventually the mainstream media will be forced to participate in this debate, they're wasting their time. They have almost as much at stake as the perpetrators do. No matter how much evidence comes out linking powerful Americans to this attack, the press would go down with the ship. Basically right now the press is there to help the government control their citizens, to protect the government.
Reynolds, who served as George W. Bush?s Labor Department Chief Economist in 2001-2002, believes that a 9/11 truth victory is looming on the near-term horizon.
So nine years after this statement.... Still no one has come forward to reveal what would be the world's largest conspiracy ever....
Look idiot... Are you that dumb enough to think that smart people could not pull this off?
Which do you think is more likely.... A handful of terrorists taking over two planes and smashing them into buildings, or a massive year long conspiracy involving hundreds of people and tons of TNT smuggled into a heavily guarded building, then having terrorists take over two planes and smashing them into buildings only to set off TNT an hour later?
Don't be silly now.
9/11 conspiracy nuts rank right alongside of the birther movement.
Which do you think is more likely.... A handful of terrorists taking over two planes and smashing them into buildings, or a massive year long conspiracy involving hundreds of people and tons of TNT smuggled into a heavily guarded building, then having terrorists take over two planes and smashing them into buildings only to set off TNT an hour later?
Don't be silly now.
9/11 conspiracy nuts rank right alongside of the birther movement.
Is this thread still alive?
Calm down man, have a drink in the sun and enjoy your freedom!
OMG Chubby.
Why don't you do your research and you can find out.
IT is a fact. The fact that you ignore it or are not aware of it is not a shock to me.
Why don't you do your research and you can find out.
IT is a fact. The fact that you ignore it or are not aware of it is not a shock to me.
I have done my research. In fact, I have a number of books about WTC including the report to Congress, Debunking 9/11, and Debunking Debunking 9/11.
One of the problems with the Internet today is that a lie or half truth can be told and it can be repeated so much that at a certain point it becomes accepted as fact, when it really isn't.
In this case if you do any research on this subject all you come across is the typical bullshit and conspiracy sites.
Security at the WTC was "heightened" in the weeks before 9/11, which means extra bomb sniffing dogs were at the site. They were removed the day or two before 9/11. However, there was still bomb sniffing dogs at the site the day before and the day of 9/11. There was just less of them.
This half truth proves just the opposite - that 9/11 was not brought down by explosives. It would have taken months to get the required amount of explosives to take down the buildings, and there was extra bomb sniffing dogs on site during this time.
But that's fine, you just keep ignoring the truth and believe what you want to believe already.
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