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  • [Labret]
    Registered User
    • May 2001
    • 10945

    #1

    The Party Is Over

    Oprano repost. Better hope its not true.

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    SilverCash, CE

    The Party is over. I was talking to a friend a couple of days ago who works at a big bank. Visa has changed the rules on 3rd party processors. Starting Nov 1. They all have to be certified. What does this mean.

    Posting the Credit Card is GONE, No MORE, Later. Like everything the CE's of the world abused in the worst way then Visa punishes everyone with new rules. Shame.

    My Friend told me that Website billing is GONE. Think about it CE is one of their only customers and pulling this Shit Scam and they go over the CB area. SUPRISE.

    Jettis batching. Nope they have also been Axed by Visa.

    I imagine this week some of the big players will get the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone.

    Did you know that Visa Now also collects your CB percentage for every 3rd party processor. They now have the right to tell 3rd party procssors that TMF clients can not process with them also.

    Serge here is my prediction. 6 months from now most of the major companies will have lost the ability to take Visa/MC on all their prize domains. Want to Bet
  • m0rph3us
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2001
    • 2033

    #2
    is this some kind of a joke?

    What are you talking about?
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    • corvette
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2001
      • 7880

      #3
      Where did you see this?
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      • [Labret]
        Registered User
        • May 2001
        • 10945

        #4
        Like I said, its an Oprano repost. I didn't write it. Its pretty self-explanatory.

        I tried to post a link to Oprano but it appears to be a banned word. Nice.

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        [This message has been edited by [Labret] (edited 10-26-2001).]

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        • funkmaster
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2001
          • 7938

          #5
          ... donยดt jump on that train mark ... this stuff always pops up every now and then ...

          ... may you all have a great weekend, I for sure will !!!

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          • stangster
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 1126

            #6
            I thought it was only going to affect REBILLING? All those monthly rebills..GONE!

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            • m0rph3us
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2001
              • 2033

              #7
              So what's that mean? No more ccbill/ibill/globill?

              Huh?
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              • Hooper
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 2210

                #8
                It's pretty much 100% bullshit.

                The sky is falling.. the sky is falling.

                Every few months there is a new rumor .
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                • Amputate Your Head
                  There can be only one
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 39075

                  #9
                  That's not funny man. I'm gonna cry now.
                  SIG TOO BIG

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                  • quiet
                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 25115

                    #10
                    yes, posted on the oprano board.

                    "the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone"

                    'posting' generally means sharing detailed ccard info with the paysite operators. wouldn't apply to my sites in that case. ibill (and i believe ccbill) do not allow anyone else to view detailed cc info if you are using their merchant account.
                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                    • [Labret]
                      Registered User
                      • May 2001
                      • 10945

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hooper:
                      It's pretty much 100% bullshit.

                      The sky is falling.. the sky is falling.

                      Every few months there is a new rumor .
                      True, I dont know how many times I have heard this one in the last 4 years. But nevertheless, everytime I hear one it makes my flesh crawl because I know one day it will come. Maybe not as bad as some people think, but everyone I have ever talked to with connection to third party processing always say change is coming and its not going to be pretty.

                      A purge of this industry would do it some good. It has gone unchecked for too long.

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                      • 12clicks
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 19814

                        #12
                        most of us ignore the ripples in this industry,
                        Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.
                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • Makaveli
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 1027

                          #13
                          Like my man Chuck D said:
                          "Don't Believe The Hype"

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                          • Ludedude
                            Suck it!
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 4432

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 12clicks:

                            Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.
                            Shit, you know about that 12clicks?

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                            • Hooper
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 2210

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 12clicks:
                              most of us ignore the ripples in this industry,
                              Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.

                              "US"???? Do tell 12clicks ;-))
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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19814

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ludedude:
                                Shit, you know about that 12clicks?

                                I'm omnipotent.
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                • tenletters
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 2079

                                  #17
                                  You only get excited by old Dodge cars?
                                  Originally posted by 12clicks:
                                  I'm omnipotent.
                                  Useless Without Pics

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                                  • rhizome
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 788

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hooper:

                                    "US"???? Do tell 12clicks ;-))
                                    Yeah, do tell! It's not like anyone here is involved in anything like http://www.beastboy.com

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                                    • 12clicks
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 19814

                                      #19
                                      hooper, my adult business is still large enough to be envied. I sleep well at night knowing I play within the rules.
                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • Ludedude
                                        Suck it!
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 4432

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 12clicks:
                                        I'm omnipotent.
                                        You know, I do believe the big TGP's sell stuff for that now

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                                        • 12clicks
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19814

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ludedude:
                                          You know, I do believe the big TGP's sell stuff for that now

                                          hahaha, too fucking funny.
                                          On that, my week is over. have a good weekend everyone.
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • Ludedude
                                            Suck it!
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 4432

                                            #22
                                            Cya...enjoy the weekend

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                                            • Lensman
                                              GFY Chaperone
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 9846

                                              #23
                                              This is a bullshit post from some anon in respect to direct posting, EVEN if it was true, it would have ZERO IMPACT on 99% of sites today. Yet, I beleive the post was 100% made up out of thin air and has no basis in fact.

                                              Labret shouldn't post things out of context.

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                                              • [Labret]
                                                Registered User
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 10945

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Lensman:
                                                This is a bullshit post from some anon in respect to direct posting, EVEN if it was true, it would have ZERO IMPACT on 99% of sites today. Yet, I beleive the post was 100% made up out of thin air and has no basis in fact.

                                                Labret shouldn't post things out of context.
                                                I merely reposted the message. There was no context that I am aware of.

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                                                • Theo
                                                  HAL 9000
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 34515

                                                  #25
                                                  I don't believe it, but as Labret said changes are coming soon or late.

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                                                  • [Labret]
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 10945

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rhizome:
                                                    Yeah, do tell! It's not like anyone here is involved in anything like http://www.beastboy.com

                                                    Took me a minute to catch that.

                                                    Are you insinuating that I run beastboy.com?


                                                    Lemme guess how you came to that conclusion.

                                                    Boneprone4Life.com

                                                    Your a regular Sherlock Fucking Holmes... but suffice it to say, you are wrong. But you probably already knew that.



                                                    [This message has been edited by [Labret] (edited 10-26-2001).]

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                                                    • stangster
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 1126

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by [Labret]:
                                                      I run beastboy.com
                                                      Tsk tsk..
                                                      shame..shame..


                                                      Never give up.. Never surrender.

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                                                      • ElvisManson
                                                        Looking California
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 5476

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stangster:
                                                        Tsk tsk..
                                                        shame..shame..

                                                        I thought {Labret} was a BoneProne post-bot.





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                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 16015

                                                          #29
                                                          Labret = Chicken Little.

                                                          and the sky is NOT falling.


                                                          People who run a good business remain in business. People who either don't or won't run their businesses well tend to fade away.

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                                                          • [Labret]
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 10945

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim:
                                                            Labret = Chicken Little.

                                                            and the sky is NOT falling.


                                                            People who run a good business remain in business. People who either don't or won't run their businesses well tend to fade away.

                                                            For the third time. But giving that you are a blonde I understand.

                                                            It was a reeeeepooooooooost.

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                                                            • Due
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                              • 3620

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ElvisManson:
                                                              I thought {Labret} was a BoneProne post-bot.



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                                                              • boneprone
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 34415

                                                                #32
                                                                scarry shit

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                                                                Learn about it kids.

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                                                                • Jack Dare
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 120

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This type of hysteria has been going on for years, but it never follows through. Why? The adult business is wwaaaayy too profitable for the banks. They will NEVER shut it down. Maybe they will clean out cheaters here and there, but stay clean and you're fine.

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                                                                  • Lensman
                                                                    GFY Chaperone
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 9846

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Sounds like it's true, a post from the owner of CCBill:

                                                                    What a Crazy Day.

                                                                    One anon comes on a board and makes
                                                                    my phone ring off the hook ))

                                                                    Ok the truth is.

                                                                    Yes Visa has new rules for 3rd party processors. Our Group is being moved to a new classification call PSP (Payment Service Providers). We are being treated more like banks. One of the most major changes is the protection of credit cards and who has access to this data. So yes it is true that Posting of data will now no longer be available. There are a few other things that we have to do, but it should be business as normal. Looks like all the 3rd party processors will all be on a Panel in a couple of weeks at adultdex to talk about this in more detail if people still have questions. (there you go faye shameless plug for Adultdex.com)

                                                                    The bottom line in my opinion is that this will be a great thing for our industry. The more straight forward we are about charging customers the more creditability we will have as an industry.

                                                                    KK I will let you answer any more questions from here.

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                                                                    • [Labret]
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 10945

                                                                      #35

                                                                      KK, Lensman, anyone else in the know...

                                                                      What exactly is going to be the impact (if any) on small to medium sized pay sites that obviously require 3rd party processing?

                                                                      Will it impact revsharing? Rebilling? How chargebacks are handled?

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                                                                      • Lensman
                                                                        GFY Chaperone
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 9846

                                                                        #36
                                                                        O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

                                                                        Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

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                                                                        • the indigo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                          • 2016

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Whoah, don't play with my nerves like this!! :-)
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                                                                          • Gary
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 6110

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Lensman:
                                                                            O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

                                                                            Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

                                                                            Thats probably a good thing. There seems to be something wrong with sites automatically signing people up for other sites. Especially if i'm not getting a piece of the action.

                                                                            Up to 35$ per join...!

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                                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 16015

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Lensman:
                                                                              O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

                                                                              Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

                                                                              Bingo Lens, you hit the nail on the head. We've only got 1 customer left on post and they are being switched over now. Most other processors have a few and they are switching them to as I understand it.

                                                                              This doesn't affect rebills, doesn't affect processing, it's simply a matter of giving Visa the security they require from third party processors.

                                                                              And yes, Labret, I am blonde. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be tho.

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                                                                              • EricH
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 67

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by [Labret]:
                                                                                My Friend told me that Website billing is GONE....
                                                                                Websitebilling isn't going anywhere. As far as the talk of new rules, we welcome any industry regulations that will further protect consumers and be enforced thoroughly and evenly.




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                                                                                • pr0view
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 270

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  so, actually, nothing happened visa should have done that ages ago...

                                                                                  btw, i do have a Q... ya know what sexkey is doing? they give free access to their AVS and charge for one of their paysites from the same S-U form... do the new changes mean that this can't happen any more? i mean, if posting is denied, then that should be impossible from Nov 1, right?
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                                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 16015

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Buy one get one free is not prohibited. Keeping a copy of the surfers cc number is what this is all about.

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