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  • nico-t
    emperor of my world
    • Aug 2004
    • 29901

    #1

    alexa traffic stats are bullshit

    when i check my own sites i see huge peeks and huge lows, but my own real stats show a solid number all the way through...... its official, alexa sucks donkey balls covered in sweat.
  • Amysworld
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2005
    • 1578

    #2
    You know, I was thinking the same thing.

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    • xclusive
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Apr 2004
      • 35218

      #3
      they have for a long time but just like google PR people who don't know any better thinks it matters.

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      • nico-t
        emperor of my world
        • Aug 2004
        • 29901

        #4
        Originally posted by xclusive
        they have for a long time but just like google PR people who don't know any better thinks it matters.
        we agree on the alexa stats, but PR is a whole other story... last few months i kinda got into seo and PR is pretty important

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        • AmateurFlix
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2004
          • 7762

          #5
          the PR displayed on google's toolbar is a completely different # than the PR google uses to determine SERP. most of the sites I've had that received the most google traffic have PR0, while almost all of my PR4 sites get little to no google traffic at all. I don't do much with seo atm but it seems like PR is greatly overrated

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          • fallenmuffin
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 8170

            #6
            Originally posted by AmateurFlix
            the PR displayed on google's toolbar is a completely different # than the PR google uses to determine SERP. most of the sites I've had that received the most google traffic have PR0, while almost all of my PR4 sites get little to no google traffic at all. I don't do much with seo atm but it seems like PR is greatly overrated
            Yeah, thats right about the PR but it's interesting you should say that because I noticed that when my sites get higher PR their SERP ranking drops. When I first launch a site I get great SERP rankings for awhile then I disappear into the sandbox come out and I'm so-so rankings.. Then I get Pr3+ and I drop off the face of the earth.. on like page 20

            But by that time I'm #1 for like everything on Yahoo/MSN

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            • chupachups
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 6576

              #7
              Yes, figures are usually inaccurate, but overall I would say I find alexa very useful.

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              • reyz007
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 1495

                #8
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                yes, alexa is very useful
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                • jayeff
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 2944

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nico-t
                  when i check my own sites i see huge peeks and huge lows, but my own real stats show a solid number all the way through...... its official, alexa sucks donkey balls covered in sweat.
                  Alexa traffic stats AFAIK are calculated somewhat along the lines of Nielsen ratings for TV viewing audiences, albeit with wider but less controlled sampling. There are some specific factors which can downgrade their reliability further, at least in the short-term and in particular for newly listed sites.

                  By coincidence I was looking into a site which was offered for sale yesterday and saw the exact one day high and one day low pattern you describe. Because I didn't recall having seen anything like it before, I assumed the guy must be doing something like buying batches of traffic, rather than having a steady stream of his own.

                  Be a shame if I turned down a good buy just because Alexa is even more flakey than I realized

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                  • AmateurFlix
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 7762

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                    Yeah, thats right about the PR but it's interesting you should say that because I noticed that when my sites get higher PR their SERP ranking drops. When I first launch a site I get great SERP rankings for awhile then I disappear into the sandbox come out and I'm so-so rankings.. Then I get Pr3+ and I drop off the face of the earth.. on like page 20

                    But by that time I'm #1 for like everything on Yahoo/MSN
                    same here. I think google gives a temporary boost to new sites, or new pages on sites, then lets it drop to a different position.

                    actually google is so unpredictable that I don't really concern myself with it very much, the majority of my se traffic ends up coming from yahoo and msn. but I'm not an seo person. I think it's higher quality traffic anyway, since those se's probably get used by the most naive and inexperienced users.
                    Last edited by AmateurFlix; 06-10-2006, 08:58 PM.

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                    • pelcito
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 404

                      #11
                      Yep, with the time less people has the toolbar installed, so it start to be less accurated.

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                      • Trax
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                        • Aug 2001
                        • 14486

                        #12
                        did it ever come to your mind that sites above/below you might have flunctiating traffic which then changes ranks? lol

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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Trax
                          did it ever come to your mind that sites above/below you might have flunctiating traffic which then changes ranks? lol
                          lol no shit ;))

                          Alexa is just another way to look at something imo


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                          • Dagwolf
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                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23141

                            #14
                            It's no good by itself, but I've found it somewhat useful.
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                            • Pleasurepays
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 11913

                              #15
                              the 1,245,656th thread online called "alexa stats are bullshit"

                              its almost like a rite of passage these days.

                              welcome to the interweb.

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                              • edgeprod
                                Permanently Gone
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 10019

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nico-t
                                last few months i kinda got into seo and PR is pretty important

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                                • Pandemos
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 956

                                  #17
                                  It should be used as a general indicator, nothing more.

                                  I find it useful for detecting bullshitters. Someone comes to me telling me his site's getting 100k uniques a day then I look up his Alexa rank and he's at 1,268,476 or something...
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                                  • digifan
                                    The Profiler
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 14618

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by reyz007
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                                    yes, alexa is very useful
                                    .
                                    For what? Read the thread, silly
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                                    • digifan
                                      The Profiler
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 14618

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pelcito
                                      Yep, with the time less people has the toolbar installed, so it start to be less accurated.

                                      That toolbar install too many shit to make it worthly.
                                      You are kidding, correct?
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                                      • Paul Markham
                                        Too old to care
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942

                                        #20
                                        A lot of people put way to high an emphasis on PR and Alexa.

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                                        • Manowar
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                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 71528

                                          #21
                                          alexa can be fucked

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                                          • SGS
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 5176

                                            #22
                                            Alexa BS?

                                            Say it aint so. lol
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                                            • MediaGuy
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 5500

                                              #23
                                              I use Alexa as a barometre (do you guys spell it barometer?) - it's just those with the toolbar that it counts... how many of us here use that friggin thing anyway?

                                              Google needs to come up with a ranking based on users of its toolbar (or a version comparing rankings from multiple toolbars)... now that would be damn interesting.
                                              Last edited by MediaGuy; 06-11-2006, 01:56 AM.

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                                              • Linkster
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                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 3216

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Pandemos
                                                It should be used as a general indicator, nothing more.

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                                                I wouldnt even use it for that - all it takes is you and 3 of your friends to install the alexa toolbar and surf your site once a day to get into the top 100,000

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                                                • thaifan99
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                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 3029

                                                  #25
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                                                  • madawgz
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                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                    • 30509

                                                    #26
                                                    yeppers, alexa only covers people with the alexa bar....
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                                                    • Jarmusch
                                                       
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 12479

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Linkster
                                                      all it takes is you and 3 of your friends to install the alexa toolbar and surf your site once a day to get into the top 100,000

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                                                      • nico-t
                                                        emperor of my world
                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 29901

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                        ignorant, but im not gonna discuss why

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                                                        • aico
                                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 14748

                                                          #29
                                                          There's probably 10 people with the Alexa toolbar, who fucking cares about Alexa stats. The only stat I care about is my bank account stat.

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