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  • johnpr0n
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2004
    • 389
    #1

    Scammer - hoarder - hottiesgalleries.net

    Prolly not the right place to post this up, but i think its close enough.

    Just wanted to warn everyone about diong business with this guy, hoarder - ICQ info is:

    ICQ Number: 72-391-203
    Name: Sanderson Jay
    NickName: Hoarder
    Company: We Love The Web Ltd
    Gender: Male
    Birth Date: 7/13/1979
    Age: 26

    One of his websites is http://www.hottiesgalleries.net

    Pre paid him to make a script, 2 months down the track i have seen nothing. Every few weeks he contacts me and tells me its nearly done, when he hasnt even started on it.

    Hes very unprofessional indeed, and i would not trust him to do business with at all.

    Just thought i would let everyone know, not to hire him for any type of work, he wont do the job, he will take the money of course. I wouldnt even wanna trade with him, i can see him removing links and that type of thing. Very unprofessional indeed.
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    • Hoarder
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2006
      • 171
      #2
      I'd done about half of it but I've been busy with alot of stuff at the moment so I've been running behind on alot of things. I told you I'd give you a refund ina couple of days.

      I've done work for other people on this board - Kandah, KhunDawg, ibmoddog and a few others and I've never had any complaints from them.

      BTW I don't run hottiesgalleries.net anymore, I sold it to Kandah, if anyone is reading this don't remove links to that site because of this.
      Babedot Galleries | Teen Blog | ICQ: 72-391-203

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        • fetishblog
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 5995
          #3
          If nobody else will, I'll step up and vouch for Hoarder. He's not a scammer and he's not unprofessional. He doesn't remove links after he gets money, and he does get the job done.

          I for one know how it feels to not have enough time in the day to get EVERYTHING done that needs to get done, so based on that, I wouldn't call anyone a scammer just because they didn't finish a job in 1 day.

          Oh, and posting someone's full name & DOB on a public forum for anyone to have is pretty unprofessional in and of itself. I guess you don't realize how much damage can be done to someone with just their name and DOB.
          Last edited by fetishblog; 05-26-2006, 12:21 PM.

          Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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            • Khun
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2004
              • 1239
              #4
              Hey johnpr0n. I am sorry to hear that. Trust me, Hoarder is a great guy and will do what he says he will do.

              I can certainly understand being frustrated if you needed the script done sooner, however, I have found few others who do the kind of quality work he offers.

              In the end, I woudn't be too concerned. If he is offering a refund, I am sure you'll get it. Personally, I would hang on for the script because I am sure its going to be top notch with him doing the coding.

              Just my
              Sig is on vacation... (I wish I could vacation as long as my sig has...)

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                • johnpr0n
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 389
                  #5
                  LOL

                  You never once said you would refund the money, and the money is not the point here.

                  Here is your reply on icq:

                  Hoarder(01:03) :
                  the user stuff was diong my head in anyway

                  Thats all the reply i got. I dont see anythign in thier saying SORRY - i fucked up your schedule. Here is your money back. No, nothing. Your obviosly online on icq, but your ignoring me. Great business strategy.

                  I was very patient, i left it for over 2 months. All i got told every 2 weeks was, oh its nearly done, this weekend you can test it.

                  I HIGHLY doubt hoarder even started on it.

                  I will ask kandah if he bought that site from you, and i will replace the link if thats the case.

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                    • johnpr0n
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 389
                      #6
                      Thats the problem khun, there was NEVER an offer of a refund. He often wouldnt answer my icq message's. I dont even believe he said sorry, not once.

                      It was a plain out wrought...

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                        • Khun
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1239
                          #7
                          But while we are on the subject of scammers...

                          WCSCreations or WSCCreations or whatever his name/site was (offline now) is a schmuck bastard. He also goes by Wildcard on ICQ - 168048147. Paid him $375 bucks for a skin and never saw a thing. Got some kinda sob story eventually as to how he was out on the street and that not to worry, that he would get me a refund. Ya, right. Been about a month now, no holding my breath.

                          Fucking asshole.
                          Sig is on vacation... (I wish I could vacation as long as my sig has...)

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                            • johnpr0n
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 389
                              #8
                              And i respect you guys sticking up for him. But i believe i have left this for a very long time.

                              Its a 1 week job.

                              Ive been waiting 2 months.

                              I have never been shown a sample.

                              I have not been told whats giong on.

                              And he ignores my messages most of the time.

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                                • Khun
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 1239
                                  #9
                                  I am just going of my personal experience with him. On my project, he did an exceptional job. Thats all I can really comment on, but I am sure that if he is taking a while on it, its for a good reason.

                                  In the end, you obviously want a script. You have his attention, why not work this out?
                                  Sig is on vacation... (I wish I could vacation as long as my sig has...)

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                                    • johnpr0n
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 389
                                      #10
                                      Oh i agree. He did one job for me, a small script which i paid him double the price for, since he did it so quick and well. That job i paid him AFTER he finished, he did it within hours.

                                      I was very impressed.

                                      And then i paid him AHEAD of time on the second job. Thats when it all went downhill.

                                      I think ive been realy patient about it. Ive left it for over 2 months now, i didnt bug him daily and harass him.

                                      But shit, when is it time to say enough? Its a 1 week job, and its been over 2 months now.....

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                                        • johnpr0n
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 389
                                          #11
                                          I think its a bit too late to work anything out khun.

                                          Its not like ive come here posting this up 2 mins after the script was due, i understand things like this can take time. I believe ive been VERY patient, i did not get upset at him, i understand he is a person and has a life which must come first.

                                          Its been over 2 months, and im being ignored. I dont believe the script was ever giong to be finished, i dont think hes even started on it. Ive been told 5+ times i could see a demo version of it, then weeks pass and i get told the same thing again, and again and again.

                                          This is my last resort, simply put ive been scammed, and dont want people to have the same experience.

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                                            • mikeet
                                              this & that
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 5364
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Khun
                                              But while we are on the subject of scammers...

                                              WCSCreations or WSCCreations or whatever his name/site was (offline now) is a schmuck bastard. He also goes by Wildcard on ICQ - 168048147. Paid him $375 bucks for a skin and never saw a thing. Got some kinda sob story eventually as to how he was out on the street and that not to worry, that he would get me a refund. Ya, right. Been about a month now, no holding my breath.

                                              Fucking asshole.
                                              Well .... no shit. I was beginning to wonder if i was the only one. This Wildcard (GFY username: JamesK) guy did 2 jobs for me in the past and i got to say he did quite well. So, thinking he was a cool guy and did awesome work i hit him up for a 3rd project. Even paid him the full $250 in advance like he asked, no problem cause he came through 2 times before...needless to say haven't heard a word from him in like 2 months.

                                              btw, JamesK ... if your reading this, hit me up dude and lets get this sorted out.

                                              As far as Hoarder goes, i've heard is work is excellent and have no problems with him

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                                                • johnpr0n
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 389
                                                  #13
                                                  Well thats the thing isnt it. Someone can do a great job one minute, and then the next totaly fuck someone over.

                                                  The first job hoarder did was great. He sat down right then and did it, was very happy with it.

                                                  But as soon as i paid him upfront... well thats the last i heard from him, except for the bi weekly "it will be done on the weekend" comment.

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                                                    • tiger
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 6986
                                                      #14
                                                      Bought some links from Hoarder, no problems here.

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                                                        • fris
                                                          I have to go potty
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 55789
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by johnpr0n
                                                          Prolly not the right place to post this up, but i think its close enough.

                                                          Just wanted to warn everyone about diong business with this guy, hoarder - ICQ info is:

                                                          ICQ Number: 72-391-203
                                                          Name: Sanderson Jay
                                                          NickName: Hoarder
                                                          Company: We Love The Web Ltd
                                                          Gender: Male
                                                          Birth Date: 7/13/1979
                                                          Age: 26

                                                          One of his websites is http://www.hottiesgalleries.net

                                                          Pre paid him to make a script, 2 months down the track i have seen nothing. Every few weeks he contacts me and tells me its nearly done, when he hasnt even started on it.

                                                          Hes very unprofessional indeed, and i would not trust him to do business with at all.

                                                          Just thought i would let everyone know, not to hire him for any type of work, he wont do the job, he will take the money of course. I wouldnt even wanna trade with him, i can see him removing links and that type of thing. Very unprofessional indeed.
                                                          Federal Law Freedom of Information - Protection Clause. ver. 27. dated, 1998 (Par. 17 - Freedom of Information Act, 1998 - Whereign the use ofperson or persons names, contact information and/or image directly or indirectly exclosed to the public without written or documented approval is strictly prohibitted. Federal Archives. Case No. 3017 The United States of America v. Henderson.)
                                                          Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.


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                                                            • mikeet
                                                              this & that
                                                              • May 2005
                                                              • 5364
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by johnpr0n
                                                              Well thats the thing isnt it. Someone can do a great job one minute, and then the next totaly fuck someone over.

                                                              The first job hoarder did was great. He sat down right then and did it, was very happy with it.

                                                              But as soon as i paid him upfront... well thats the last i heard from him, except for the bi weekly "it will be done on the weekend" comment.
                                                              Live and learn ......... then move on

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                                                                • czarina
                                                                  Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 10751
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Nice to see that you got the responses on this fourm that you wanted.

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                                                                    • The Duck
                                                                      Adult Content Provider
                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 18243
                                                                      #18
                                                                      im not sure what this is about and im drunk so ill read it again tommowor I guess. I can vouch for both J0hn and hoarder, done biz with both and havent had any problems.
                                                                      Skype Horusmaia
                                                                      ICQ 41555245
                                                                      Email [email protected]

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                                                                        • johnpr0n
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 389
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Hmm i am very sorry, kandah does indeed own hottiesgalleries.net - and he is a stand up guy, i have done business with him in the past, and would not hesitate to do business with him again.

                                                                          Hoarders site is: http://www.babedot.com/

                                                                          I would change the title of the thread, but it appears i cannot do so.

                                                                          Interesting point too fris, i probably shouldnt have posted his info like that. Live and learn huh

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                                                                            • MosesTheTool
                                                                              My name is
                                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                                              • 615
                                                                              #20
                                                                              WHAT THE FUCK?
                                                                              Khun, Wildcard is a scammer ?! :\ jesus christ
                                                                              Thanks!

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                                                                                • johnpr0n
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 389
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Another couple of weeks, and still no reply. I hope after a while everyone realizes hoarder is not a good guy to do business with

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                                                                                    • Zarathustra
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                      • 1094
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by johnpr0n
                                                                                      Another couple of weeks, and still no reply. I hope after a while everyone realizes hoarder is not a good guy to do business with
                                                                                      Thanks for the info. I was going to drop 8k on a site but now i'm reconsidering. I know the site used to belong to kjlm. Maybe I should check out other forums like iq69 and cfus and see what people say

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                                                                                        • HadesPass
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                                                          • 932
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Hoarder and I did a couple of small PayPal-to-ePassporte deals last week. He'll come through and do what he says. Try him on ICQ. He always replied quickly on ICQ but I don't think I've ever been able to get an email through to him.
                                                                                          Email: [email protected]
                                                                                          ICQ: 467-750-068

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                                                                                            • tenderobject
                                                                                              Need Designs? 312352846
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 11688
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              was talking with him a while back


                                                                                              NEED DESIGNS?!?

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                                                                                                • fetishblog
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                  • 5995
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fris
                                                                                                  Federal Law Freedom of Information - Protection Clause. ver. 27. dated, 1998 (Par. 17 - Freedom of Information Act, 1998 - Whereign the use ofperson or persons names, contact information and/or image directly or indirectly exclosed to the public without written or documented approval is strictly prohibitted. Federal Archives. Case No. 3017 The United States of America v. Henderson.)
                                                                                                  Not to mention GFY rules prohibit the posting of personal information as well. *shrug*

                                                                                                  Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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                                                                                                    • johnpr0n
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 389
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      We have lots of people vouching for him yes.

                                                                                                      What im trying to put across to you guys is, just becuase someone has been legit in the past, doesnt mean hes not capable of pulling this shit.

                                                                                                      Cuase its been done. Its been months now. What more proof do you need?

                                                                                                      Anyone heard of big affiliate programs for example, disapearing overnight with everyone's money? Cuase i have.

                                                                                                      He has me on icq, i havnt even received an apology. I couldnt care less about the money, he could have simply apologised for fucking my launch dates up.

                                                                                                      Btw if i could edit the post i would take his details out, but alas, i cannot.

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                                                                                                        • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                          North Coast Pimp
                                                                                                          • Dec 2005
                                                                                                          • 9395
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by fetishblog
                                                                                                          Not to mention GFY rules prohibit the posting of personal information as well. *shrug*
                                                                                                          Bann his ass!

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                                                                                                            • Marky333
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                                              • 974
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Communication is the primary thing when 2 or more people are trying to do something (anything ). When communication drops ....

                                                                                                              Just my

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                                                                                                                • johnpr0n
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 389
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  The grown ups are talking, run along NetDomainia..

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                                                                                                                    • u-Bob
                                                                                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                      • 33063
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by johnpr0n
                                                                                                                      The grown ups are talking, run along NetDomainia..

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                                                                                                                        • johnpr0n
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                          • 389
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Another month has passed, still havnt heard from hoarder...

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                                                                                                                            • johnpr0n
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 389
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Think i might bump this up once a month, just for the fun of it

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                                                                                                                                • tenderobject
                                                                                                                                  Need Designs? 312352846
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 11688
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  still not fixed? sorry to hear that. its kinda sad being fucked up win this biz but i think thats the biz. hope you can get a hold of him. im tryting to get a hold of someone for months now as well kinda dissapointing though.


                                                                                                                                  NEED DESIGNS?!?

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                                                                                                                                    • JamesK2
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 6589
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Khun
                                                                                                                                      But while we are on the subject of scammers...

                                                                                                                                      WCSCreations or WSCCreations or whatever his name/site was (offline now) is a schmuck bastard. He also goes by Wildcard on ICQ - 168048147. Paid him $375 bucks for a skin and never saw a thing. Got some kinda sob story eventually as to how he was out on the street and that not to worry, that he would get me a refund. Ya, right. Been about a month now, no holding my breath.

                                                                                                                                      Fucking asshole.
                                                                                                                                      I apologise for this but I'm working hard to pay off my clients and the work I owe. I already told everyone many times I made a big fuck up and working my ass off for it now.

                                                                                                                                      Btw you paid $375, you placed an order with my design partner for $200 on my costs and you got an excellent logo. So I owe you $175.

                                                                                                                                      Mchtye I'd also like to apologise to you and will hit you up asap so we can sort this out.

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                                                                                                                                        • JamesK2
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 6589
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MosesTheTool
                                                                                                                                          WHAT THE FUCK?
                                                                                                                                          Khun, Wildcard is a scammer ?! :\ jesus christ
                                                                                                                                          Thanks!
                                                                                                                                          Am I a scammer if I admit I fucked up and working my ass off to pay everyone back?

                                                                                                                                          Believe what you want to believe. A scammer doesn't make a thread on his own board apologising to all his clients and telling his story.

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                                                                                                                                            • hbillo
                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 93
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              good luck with those problems dude..
                                                                                                                                              ICQ : 327 321 946

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                                                                                                                                                • mikeet
                                                                                                                                                  this & that
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 5364
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by JamesK
                                                                                                                                                  Mchtye I'd also like to apologise to you and will hit you up asap so we can sort this out.
                                                                                                                                                  Um yea, please do ... my icq and msn are both on.

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                                                                                                                                                    • fris
                                                                                                                                                      I have to go potty
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 55789
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      hoarder is still a scammer
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                                                                                                                                                        • fetishblog
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 5995
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fris
                                                                                                                                                          hoarder is still a scammer
                                                                                                                                                          Yup.

                                                                                                                                                          Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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                                                                                                                                                            • tiger
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 6986
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Just for the record I own hottiesgalleries.net now.

                                                                                                                                                              It looks like hoarder has disappeared off the face of the earth.

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                                                                                                                                                                • johnpr0n
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 389
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Yea i never heard back from him, i was right he was no good to do business with, i do not post here lightly.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Khun
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1239
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JamesK
                                                                                                                                                                      Am I a scammer if I admit I fucked up and working my ass off to pay everyone back?

                                                                                                                                                                      Believe what you want to believe. A scammer doesn't make a thread on his own board apologising to all his clients and telling his story.
                                                                                                                                                                      Hell yes you are! I dont give a shit if you come here and make a post. Send me back my fucking money. I have yet to see a dime from you. Yes everyone, believe what you want. I am damn sure everyone else you fucked will agree with me that your sorry post means nothing in our eyes.

                                                                                                                                                                      You want me to retract my statement, tough shit. Send me my money and then we will talk.
                                                                                                                                                                      Sig is on vacation... (I wish I could vacation as long as my sig has...)

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                                                                                                                                                                        • The Duck
                                                                                                                                                                          Adult Content Provider
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                          • 18243
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Bump for the resurrection of Hoarder, wake up bud.
                                                                                                                                                                          Skype Horusmaia
                                                                                                                                                                          ICQ 41555245
                                                                                                                                                                          Email [email protected]

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