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  • Murderous
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 3938

    #51
    Originally posted by Rand
    We can definitely look at your transaction specifically and find out what happened. If you would like to get more info, send me an email with the last 4 digits of the card you used and the email address you tried to sign up with and I can respond to you about why the transaction was denied.

    Contact me at Rand @ Paycom (dot) net.
    Sure, this may help with his "test" signup, and make you a few bucks, but the issue is still at hand. How many surfers are closing the window without getting you to "look into the situation"?

    No wonder ratios are shit. Paycom is going downhill godspeed.

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    • TheSenator
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2003
      • 13330

      #52
      Fart bump... Where is there official response?
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      • Nick81
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2005
        • 2636

        #53
        another bump for response

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        • bigdog
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6964

          #54
          another bumpy

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          • DaLord
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2001
            • 3318

            #55
            I can throw in a bump too if that will speed up the process.


            Mike

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            • aico
              Moo Moo Cow
              • Mar 2004
              • 14748

              #56
              Originally posted by biskoppen
              Yeah, but why the hell are they scrubbing a VISA card from Denmark?!?!... this seems like random scrubbing to me... there is no reason at all to scrub my card
              Denmark you say? That's funny, cuz I have a Model (Kira Eggers) who is VERY popular in Denmark and we get NOTHING but complaints from her fans in Denmark that they can't join the site, via Paycom.

              I wrote Paycom on this very topic a few weeks ago

              They told me and I quote "Too many Bank Chargebacks / High Country CB Ratio"

              For Denmark...??

              Which means I am missing out on many many many sales cuz this girl, Kira Eggers, whole fanbase is Denmark.

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              • aico
                Moo Moo Cow
                • Mar 2004
                • 14748

                #57
                By the way the most common Paycom Decline code I get from Denmark is NMYBCLVL whic means (according to Paycom documentation) Bank Bin Not Accepted

                So then I asked for a list of their blacklisted countries, and Denmark was not on it, and in respose I was told "In this case it's not so much the country that is blocked as the particular location."

                I guess the 100's of DK declines I get all live in the same town.
                Last edited by aico; 06-08-2006, 03:29 PM.

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                • V_RocKs
                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32451

                  #58
                  Bump for prosperity... Hople I speelled that write.

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                  • tranza
                    ICQ: 197-556-237
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 57559

                    #59
                    And yet another bump.

                    My ratios with Paycom sponsors suck right now.

                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • swami
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1989

                      #60
                      Originally posted by tranza
                      And yet another bump.

                      My ratios with Paycom sponsors suck right now.

                      Mine too

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                      • Jamie
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 2517

                        #61
                        bump, what's the verdict?
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                        • biskoppen
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5809

                          #62
                          The answer I got was also in the "too many chargebacks or so" area .. I only ever did one with the card... so, if one chargeback makes me loose my ability to shop on the net, it's pretty damn bad to be a consumer these days
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                          • Liquid Minds
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 129

                            #63
                            Not to make Paycom look bad, but Denmark isn't a high chargeback country in our system.
                            And I doubt that they divide countries again in regions as that would have no use. You could only divide it in different bank bins if they want, but I don't see any advantage in that.

                            Just my thoughts.
                            Danny van Duivenbooden
                            www.verotel.com
                            icq: 199-010-518

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                            • studiocritic
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2442

                              #64
                              i just paused all traffic going to any paycom sponsors.. if sponsors give a fuck (or god forbid the processor), i suggest you wake rand or someone who gives a shit over there up.
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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #65
                                Originally posted by madawgz
                                alot of cc fraud goes on with paycom

                                maybe you already signed up before and cancelled, that could also be the problem

                                dont make such posts on important issues for a sig view, unless you are in position to elaborate about the cc fraud going on with paycom

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                                • studiocritic
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 2442

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                  dont make such posts on important issues for a sig view, unless you are in position to elaborate about the cc fraud going on with paycom
                                  i agree. i dont know much about scrubbing and other processor issues that are only inherent to the adult/high-risk industry (i am quite involved in mainstream processing).

                                  i'm simply pausing my paycom campaigns because of the lack of give-a-shit displayed here by virtue of no response
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                                  • Konda
                                    ...
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 2280

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by biskoppen
                                    The answer I got was also in the "too many chargebacks or so" area .. I only ever did one with the card... so, if one chargeback makes me loose my ability to shop on the net, it's pretty damn bad to be a consumer these days

                                    They probably mean from your bank, not just from you.
                                    Apperently they have blocked the whole bank where your card is issued, because on average they got more cb's from that bank compared to other banks.

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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #68
                                      Our Denmark CB ratio with CCBILL is 0.41%

                                      I spend a lot of time to analyze the behavior of surfers based on their country and occured sales. Denmark ranks for us on a very good level and is a country to target in PPC campaigns.

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                                      • Tat2Jr
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 4882

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by biskoppen
                                        The answer I got was also in the "too many chargebacks or so" area .. I only ever did one with the card... so, if one chargeback makes me loose my ability to shop on the net, it's pretty damn bad to be a consumer these days
                                        Ummmm, I don't know about anyone else, but if someone has done "one chargeback" with a card I personally don't want my processor putting that card through EVER. Seems this was a perfectly acceptable denial of a card to me.
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                                        • Liquid Minds
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 129

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                          Ummmm, I don't know about anyone else, but if someone has done "one chargeback" with a card I personally don't want my processor putting that card through EVER. Seems this was a perfectly acceptable denial of a card to me.
                                          Yep, if this is the case then it seems to be a good denial to me.


                                          Btw Soul Rebel, also according to our statistics you're right.
                                          Scandinavian countries are quite profitable and then especially Denmark.
                                          Danny van Duivenbooden
                                          www.verotel.com
                                          icq: 199-010-518

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                                          • solonline
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 718

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by biskoppen
                                            The answer I got was also in the "too many chargebacks or so" area .. I only ever did one with the card... so, if one chargeback makes me loose my ability to shop on the net, it's pretty damn bad to be a consumer these days
                                            well there is your answer. If we get any customers who do 1 charge back we dont accept further transactions from them - period. Dont matter what the reason is, if you wanted into our sites after a charge back it would be cash only up front.

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                                            • Trent Edison
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 6132

                                              #72
                                              hmm... paycom sales have been rocking this week for me...

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                                              • Antonio
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 14136

                                                #73
                                                well? .

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                                                • studiocritic
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                  • 2442

                                                  #74
                                                  bump for an answer from paycom
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                                                  • d00t
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 3766

                                                    #75
                                                    paycom decline cards for loads of reasons.... ccbill is just as bad in other ways.

                                                    How pissed will you be when I tell you paycom blocks 80% of Australian credit cards?

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                                                    • biskoppen
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 5809

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                                      Ummmm, I don't know about anyone else, but if someone has done "one chargeback" with a card I personally don't want my processor putting that card through EVER. Seems this was a perfectly acceptable denial of a card to me.
                                                      The chargeback had nothing to do with porn and was done because a company ripped me off
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                                                      • mardigras
                                                        Bon temps!
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 14194

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                        dont make such posts on important issues for a sig view, unless you are in position to elaborate about the cc fraud going on with paycom
                                                        Doubt he will ever see this reply... he's 50 threads away by now
                                                        .

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                                                        • osexxx
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                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 321

                                                          #78
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                                                          • janosik
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 755

                                                            #79
                                                            bump !!!!

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                                                            • Tat2Jr
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 4882

                                                              #80
                                                              Is NO ONE reading this thread????? Oh yeah... it IS gfy. He already gave Paycom's response.
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                                                              • Tat2Jr
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 4882

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by biskoppen
                                                                The chargeback had nothing to do with porn and was done because a company ripped me off
                                                                As a program owner I could really care less why a customer did a chargeback on a card.... I don't ever want that card accepted. It's not worth the $30 to take a chance on fucking up my CB ratio.
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                                                                • thaifan99
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 3029

                                                                  #82
                                                                  memo to george bush - ban chargebacks!
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                                                                  • he-fox
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                                    • 2884

                                                                    #83
                                                                    I got the same CC bounced and accepted by both CCBill and Paycom in different days.

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                                                                    • Dracula
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 62

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Paycom doesnt accept the Epassporte Virtual Visa either. How dumb is that?
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                                                                      • scottybuzz
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                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                        • 14799

                                                                        #85
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                                                                        • David - PG
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 767

                                                                          #86
                                                                          I believe they split ways a while ago. Chances are they don't persue similar business interests anymore.

                                                                          Originally posted by Dracula
                                                                          Paycom doesnt accept the Epassporte Virtual Visa either. How dumb is that?
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                                                                          • seven
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 2697

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                                                            As a program owner I could really care less why a customer did a chargeback on a card.... I don't ever want that card accepted. It's not worth the $30 to take a chance on fucking up my CB ratio.
                                                                            Disagree. How you feel about about taking a chance has nothing to do with Paycom's denying the transaction if he didn't charge back a card to paycom. As the matter of fact, paycom won't even know if a customer charged his card back to some Ho Jo Lawn Mower LLC. CC issuing bank won't really give a free handout to paycom with that info. You may feel like or have visions or you could just simply predict who would charge you back and call paycom to stop that guy and so could rest of paycom users but not exactly be very successful cos that's not how their system works I have chargebacked on other companies over fraud charges (like someone used my card to stay in a hotel in Honolulu where I've never been in my life) and used the same card with paycom and it went thru. I guess I should've thought about not charging back on that fraud just in case some adult company later don't accept my card lol.
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                                                                            • latinasojourn
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 3191

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                              actually its not and not just at dutchteencash, talked to solarcash same thing sales have been a lot higher last days

                                                                              would like to know why too, maybe spelling error in the adress or so?

                                                                              isolate your variables.

                                                                              for transaction testing make sure all your setups are correct by testing using ccbill card test numbers before trying your own card. and, you don't need to use your own card to test the system.

                                                                              with re: to ccbill make sure your testing profile is setup correctly.

                                                                              and you must set an "IP number range". if you are testing from a fixed IP go to "whatismyip.com" to determine your current IP and put that number into the template.

                                                                              also use the correct visa or MC test number, you can either test for approvals or declines---if you insert the test number to test for declines you WANT to get a decline when you test.

                                                                              all the info is avail in the ccbill admin. click on "HELP" for explanations and monitor your sites frequently.

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                                                                              • p1mpdogg
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 16714

                                                                                #89
                                                                                rebills not going trhrough for 2 days rand?
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                                                                                • p1mpdogg
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 16714

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                                  isolate your variables.

                                                                                  for transaction testing make sure all your setups are correct by testing using ccbill card test numbers before trying your own card. and, you don't need to use your own card to test the system.

                                                                                  with re: to ccbill make sure your testing profile is setup correctly.

                                                                                  and you must set an "IP number range". if you are testing from a fixed IP go to "whatismyip.com" to determine your current IP and put that number into the template.

                                                                                  also use the correct visa or MC test number, you can either test for approvals or declines---if you insert the test number to test for declines you WANT to get a decline when you test.

                                                                                  all the info is avail in the ccbill admin. click on "HELP" for explanations and monitor your sites frequently.
                                                                                  why in the wrold would you want to give the processor all your information where test sales will be coming from?

                                                                                  whats the point of the 'test'
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                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                    • 28609

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Liquid Minds
                                                                                    Yep, if this is the case then it seems to be a good denial to me.

                                                                                    it still doesnt sound acceptable to me. I can understand there being a different issue than if there was no cbs ever made from that card, but lets be realistic, cb's are now more and more common and its likely soon everyone will have made at least 1 chargeback, and i dont think that an acceptable reason to deny a person access , its certainly a reason if your trying to purchase something from the same store you chargedback , but not at other stores.
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                                                                                    • Trax
                                                                                      [----------------------]
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 14486

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      regardless of the reason for the decline, this error msg is fucked up guys

                                                                                      A simple "Sorry" is kinda crappie.
                                                                                      How about putting in some contact information
                                                                                      some more information or anything

                                                                                      you can do better than that

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                                                                                      • WallaceW
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 106

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Fucking Paycom
                                                                                        They'll never answer on this
                                                                                        Where is my sig?!?

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                                                                                        • Hinc
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                                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                                          • 2577

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          bump......
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                                                                                          • bobbyjuly
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                                                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                                                            • 404

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            why there is no response on this thread from paycom?
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