Yahoo stealing your images and removing your banners and google adwords

**woj** · 06-07-2006, 03:45 PM

50..........

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-07-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by testpie

Well i can see you are in an amiable mood on this fine eve'. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but i'm sure that there is nothing to stop a quick apache .htaccess mod that basically checks the referer to file x.ext, and if it maches yahoo, simply redirects the user to the actual file x.ext - all before Yahoo's code even displays the initial image.

Yes but all your gonna be able to do is change the page in the frame. and even then the surfer still isnt going to be able to buy anything because your page has been altered. theres no way i know of jumping out of a restriced frame . If there is i would be happy to know , but understanding how the security tag works , it seems impossible..

And besides all that , it seems silly for me to slow dow my server to stop a well known company from stealing from me..

ANY method you use is going to slow down your site. this means everytime someone visits your site NOT from yahoo, your going to have to first check the referrer then give them the page. while this may seem like a trivial amount of slowdown , its slowdown nonetheless. and is yahoo going to be paying me to recode my sites to stop them stealing from me..

Besides that my site has asmokeyrobots.txt file that explicitly states that no sites may link or use my content without written consent from , me. so THEY are the ones that need to recode THEIR sites to comply with MY sites robots file

**pocketkangaroo** · 06-07-2006, 04:13 PM

I don't see the securite=restricted tag anywhere? Is there somewhere I'm supposed to be looking for it at? Would like to test a few things to see if I could break it.

**John69** · 06-07-2006, 04:21 PM

they have been doing this for some time, they somehow remove all embeded content - iframes- and flash

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-07-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

I don't see the securite=restricted tag anywhere? Is there somewhere I'm supposed to be looking for it at? Would like to test a few things to see if I could break it.

its on the frameset itself

and its security=restricted ( typo )

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-07-2006, 04:43 PM

if anyone wants to test the tag you can use this

http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/secur...//yoursite.com

simply put your page where it says yoursite.com and see if you can break the frame

**Splum** · 06-07-2006, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

if anyone wants to test the tag you can use this

http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/secur...//yoursite.com

simply put your page where it says yoursite.com and see if you can break the frame

I can break it in Firefox no problem and when I do it in IE it wont break the frame BUT when I click links on my sites it opens a new IE window.

**pocketkangaroo** · 06-07-2006, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

its on the frameset itself

and its security=restricted ( typo )

Ahhhh, thanks! Good find by the way.

**fuzebox** · 06-07-2006, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by testpie

Well i can see you are in an amiable mood on this fine eve'. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but i'm sure that there is nothing to stop a quick apache .htaccess mod that basically checks the referer to file x.ext, and if it maches yahoo, simply redirects the user to the actual file x.ext - all before Yahoo's code even displays the initial image.

Smokey has been more than amiable the whole thread

I see his point now, all the htaccess in the world isn't going to change the fact that your content is being loaded in an iframe with the security tag on... anything you redirect will still remain in the iframe with a yahoo border.

**nico-t** · 06-07-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

can you add php or javascript framebusters to the galleries you submit to the hun ?

I didnt think so

and if your pages arent php ? then your SOL

and no framebusters dont work..

true id love to have a frame buster on all my tgp galleries ive made in the past, but its just not possible to change them all now..

**QuaWee** · 06-07-2006, 05:44 PM

shitty fuck and I remember Yahoo going after myspace/xanga video code sites for doing the same thing

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by fuzebox

Smokey has been more than amiable the whole thread

I see his point now, all the htaccess in the world isn't going to change the fact that your content is being loaded in an iframe with the security tag on... anything you redirect will still remain in the iframe with a yahoo border.

As i said, i'm no apache expert, but i am fairly sure that you can check the referer, and if this matches yahoo, change the header location or pop the site in a new window. But i do agree with Smokey that it will slow your site down.

**Why** · 06-08-2006, 03:47 AM

someone is really just not getting it.

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Why

someone is really just not getting it.

I've already acknowledged that my above post was wrong (see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=92).

We all make mistakes, but at least i've tried to make a solution instead of coming on and just slating somebody off with no offer of a resolution.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-08-2006, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by testpie

I've already acknowledged that my above post was wrong (see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=92).

We all make mistakes, but at least i've tried to make a solution instead of coming on and just slating somebody off with no offer of a resolution.

i think they jst mean you keep mentioning "popping things" and such.. all the php in the world isnt going to help you pop windows.. thats javascript.. the php just helps you choose what java to display , but once your in the restricted frame no javascript is allowed

I do appreciate the tenacity though , and i understand your just trying to help

Ill come up with some simple code that tries to solve the problem here today ( as best it can be anyways )

**Tom_PM** · 06-08-2006, 08:29 AM

It's a microsoft thing, so read all about it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...s/security.asp

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think they jst mean you keep mentioning "popping things" and such.. all the php in the world isnt going to help you pop windows.. thats javascript.. the php just helps you choose what java to display , but once your in the restricted frame no javascript is allowed

I do appreciate the tenacity though , and i understand your just trying to help

Ill come up with some simple code that tries to solve the problem here today ( as best it can be anyways )

Well at the moment i think what i've come up with is the best you can hope for (checking the referer in PHP, and if it is the Yahoo "rape URL" showing a "Please click here to open" which then opens the site in a new window - otherwise, if the referer is blank or from another site, simply showing the site's content - it's all in the thread i linked to above) - but if you could code something better it certainly would be nice, especially seeing Yahoo getting screwed over.

**Tom_PM** · 06-08-2006, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by testpie

Well at the moment i think what i've come up with is the best you can hope for (checking the referer in PHP, and if it is the Yahoo "rape URL" showing a "Please click here to open" which then opens the site in a new window - otherwise, if the referer is blank or from another site, simply showing the site's content - it's all in the thread i linked to above) - but if you could code something better it certainly would be nice, especially seeing Yahoo getting screwed over.

How do you propose to open the site in a new window once it's in the restricted frame?

Write up the code on your own server and see if it works

And remember to frame a page thats on a different domain.

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by PR_Tom

How do you propose to open the site in a new window once it's in the restricted frame?

Write up the code on your own server and see if it works

And remember to frame a page thats on a different domain.

Your wish is my command. With the help of Smokey's "Yahoo rape" emulator:
http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/secur...p.org/test.php

Now try visiting:
http://www.cleantgp.org/test.php

**Tom_PM** · 06-08-2006, 10:24 AM

So whats the code then?

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by PR_Tom

So whats the code then?

Well that's magic :D

(Oh and PHP

Code:

<?php
$url = parse_url(getenv("HTTP_REFERER"));

if($url['host'] hahahaha "ytmnd.webspacemania.com") {
 print "<a href='http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=told you i could do it' target='_blank'>Please click here to continue</a>";
} else {
 print "Site content";
}
?>

Just replace

PHP Code:

print "Site content";

with your site's actual content (you could always cheat and use include(file.ext) and use the PHP as a Yahoo-trapping system.

AND replace "ytmnd.webspacemania.com" with the Yahoo video host part of the URL first part (i.e. the bit that is like "xyz.xyz.com" without any of the crap after it).

Also replace that link to be your site that it goes to if the surfer clicks "Please click here to continue.

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 10:38 AM

Damn GFY keep changing the double equals to a "hahahahahaha":

Code:

if($url['host'] hahahaha "ytmnd.webspacemania.com") {

The "hahahaha" bit should be two equals signs.

**Tom_PM** · 06-08-2006, 11:12 AM

For a new site, would your code prevent it from indexing any images anyway?

It seems to work ok, I'm sure a preferred way would be without requiring the user to click anything. Or display a big old image telling people to click for all your content or something. I might just prefer them to see my page without any javascript linked banners (thats whats affected most).

**testpie** · 06-08-2006, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by PR_Tom

For a new site, would your code prevent it from indexing any images anyway?

It seems to work ok, I'm sure a preferred way would be without requiring the user to click anything. Or display a big old image telling people to click for all your content or something. I might just prefer them to see my page without any javascript linked banners (thats whats affected most).

It wouldn't prevent indexing images, as these would be spidered directly - so out of the scope of the PHP code.

You can always change the "<a href...</a>" tag for a link tag and an image of your choice.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-08-2006, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by testpie

It wouldn't prevent indexing images, as these would be spidered directly - so out of the scope of the PHP code.

You can always change the "<a href...</a>" tag for a link tag and an image of your choice.

i'll change the code to make it work better, because the problem is most people cant change their existing non php fhg's to work this way.. maybe easier to attach a header file with the php or rewrite .html as php but thats going to fuck with link codes etc.. and current seo..

**Snake Doctor** · 06-08-2006, 01:52 PM

I think it's only a problem if your ads are flash.
http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...t=862&ei=UTF-8

All of the ads show on this gallery and the frameset has all of the links opening in a new window....even though the gallery itself isn't coded that way.

Yahoo stealing your images and removing your banners and google adwords

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