Russian Troops Invade Georgia

I'm great, how are you Baghdad Bob?

It's very nice to see 2 old friends meet each other here





BTW which one is Bob on the pictures above? Because I see Rumsfeld and Saddam there. I'm just curious

adult-help - я искренне надеюсь, что в чешской республике, такой сказочный долбоеб как ты, в единственном экземпляре. провокатор сраный.

i have most of tom's games luv them all playstation breaks i call them at least 3 a day

He is not Czech. He is Ukrainian. There is no need to say that Ukrainians were on those tanks invaded Czechia and there is no need to say that the leader of Soviet Union who is responsible for that crime was UKRAINIAN. Also everyone knows about "famous feats" of Ukrainian Nazi SS brigade during WWII times. Course maybe some countries forgot that, but Israel still remember what Ukrainians done to the Jewish people. Those crimes will not be forgotten.

Wanna more truth about brave Ukrainians? Ok, here it is: The Mass Shootings of JEWS in Ukraine 1941-1944









I believe even Poland should be "very grateful" to Ukraine for this:


Viva the Ukraine!?

MINSK, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Russia's ambassador to Belarus said on Tuesday that Moscow could not understand why its western neighbour, nominally a close ally, had failed to offer the Kremlin open support in its conflict with Georgia. Belarus, whose President Alexander Lukashenko is accused by the West of crushing fundamental rights, has portrayed itself as a close Russian ally since the 1990s.

The two neighbours are committed to forming a merged post-Soviet "union state", though this has been put on the backburner, especially since 2007 when they quarrelled over energy prices.

"We are somewhat perplexed by the modest silence of the Belarussian side. You need to express yourself more clearly on such issues, especially as we have a union state," ambassador Alexander Surikov told a briefing.

Belarus's Foreign Ministry has called on both sides to lay down their arms and start negotiating for peace.

Surikov complained that Belarus had not even offered to send aid for people injured or made homeless in South Ossetia.

"We have always supported and defended Belarus," he said.

1983 != 2003

Besides I can show you a picture of Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin all sitting together and chatting too. Does that mean Churchill and Roosevelt were as evil as Stalin?

Or how about the picture of Neville Chamberlain shaking Adolf Hitler's hand?

A picture of two politicians shaking hands means nothing espceially when taken way out of context.

Give your head a shake.

Some one here has tried to speak about Chechnya? Ok, read what president of Chechnya says: http://translate.google.com/translat...F8&sl=ru&tl=en

Any more illusions?

Really? Some one here has mentioned the Soviet tanks in Czech Republic. Don't play a fool man.

this thread certainly delivers.

According to the following writer Russia had to have been planning this operation for months in advance:

http://tinyurl.com/575jhh

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Russia had set this whole thing up.

According to facts (not the writers): captured maps, pre-typed Georgian door-plates for Ossetian administrative buildings, weapon, reports of captured soldiers, their badges, documents etc the operation "Clean Field" was planned by Georgian and the US governments.

Next target is Iran. Wait a bit and you'll see.

really?

It was always at the edge of the conflict and every serious country would be prepared for something like this, of course. But I don't know how you can speak about setup if no one is denying that Suck(cock)ashvilli ordered attack and kiling more then 1000 k civilians in one night while they were sleeping?!

So what are you suggesting, that Russian actor replaced Sakashvilli and ordered his troops to attack?

And If you want setup, try to read about terrorist 38 MALES killed by Serbian police in Villge of Racak that was used as excuse for NATO bombing of Serbia.

LOADS OF SHIT

Damn Russians!

i am not responsible for that. I wasnt even born by that time. And for the whole world Russia=Soviets, i niibet.

Correct

Are you talking about this?



No, this is not shit. This is a WAR CRIME COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN SS BRIGADE.

^ lol


wow this thread is outta control


Cyberxxx this is for you

С моря доносится крик о помощи: "Help me! Help me!".
Два одессита проходят мимо, и один говорит другому: "Слышишь, пока все одесситы учились плавать, этот пижон учил английский..."

BTW, I have nothing against the normal Ukrainians. Most part of them are very nice, peaceful and good people. I just don't tolerate these neo-Nazi ones (including the Ukrainian president Mr. Youshenko) who prey to their "old and brave" Nazi SS history. For some reason I believe that Adultmix is one of them.

Once again: this is not related to a whole Ukrainian people! That's my personal point of view and I want to make it clear.

Saakashvili & G.
Saakashvili: Is Georgia a great nation?
G.: Yes!
Saakashvili: Do we have a strong army and economy?
G.: Yes! Yes!
Saakashvili: We will win Osetia,Abhasia and Russia!!
G.: Yes! Yes! Oh! Yes! Suck, Misha, Suck! Don't stop.

PR5 site http://www.bushorchimp.com/

I'd like to beg a pardon about Russian guys I might have abused in this thread. I guess basing my judgments using some scam cased I had and implying it nation in general was not correct. Sorry.

I also wanted beg a pardon to you for calling you an Ukrainian one when I was referring to Ukrainian waffen-SS crimes. I have confused your nickname with Adultmix, and that's my personal fault. Sorry.

тупые американцы понимают одесский юмор ? omg
ps: +1000 to JM-cj's sig

На одесском рынке:
- Скажите, чем вы кормили свою курицу?
- А зачем это вам?
- Я тоже хотела бы так похудеть.

Some good russian reading for ya'll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

This version was discussed in Russian media during a few years. No actual proof so far. Wikipedia is not a good source for such kind of information. It's like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident
etc..

These are just so-called conspiracy theories. "Theory" is a keyword there

Russia masses naval force opposite Georgia?s third sensitive region, Ajaria

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 12, 2008, 11:41 PM (GMT+02:00)
Georgian president addresses mass rally in Tbilisi

Georgian president addresses mass rally in Tbilisi

While the world?s attention was fixed on the Russian-Georgian contest over two breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, DEBKAfile?s exclusive military sources reveal that Russia has massed a fleet of warships and marine forces opposite the Gerogia's semi-autonomous Black Sea region of Ajaria.

Moscow is preparing to punish what it regards as Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili?s further provocations by occupying this coastal strip on Georgia?s southwestern border with Turkey.

The appearance of Ukraine?s president Viktor Yushchenko alongside Saakashvili, leaders of the pro-Western Orange and Rose Revolutions, at a huge national rally outside the Georgian parliament in Tbilisi Tuesday night, Aug. 12, may well be seen by the Kremlin as over the top. It came hours after Russian President Dimitry Medvedev?s gesture to the European mediation bid of ordering the Russian military operation in Georgia halted there and then.

Half of Ajaria?s ethnically Georgian population professes Islam, in contrast to the country?s Christian majority. The other half is Russian.

Ajarian has come to mean a Georgian Muslim.

The Russian Black Sea buildup is deployed opposite the Ajurian capital of Batumi, an important port for the shipment of oil from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. Its oil refinery handles Caspian oil from Azerbaijan.

When Saakashvili was elected president five years ago, the region?s leaders refused to recognize his authority and maintained close ties with Moscow up until May 2004 when, after Ajurians demonstrated against Tbilisi, he ordered them to obey the Georgian constitution and disarm.

Russia maintained a military base at Batumi which it agreed to close by November 2007.

DEBKAfile?s sources report that by recovering the base, Moscow will not only punish the Georgian president, but also profit from the turmoil of the past week in three ways:

1. A third semi-autonomous province will be hacked off Georgian territory after the loss of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

2. Russia will gain a strategic Black Sea foothold at Turkey?s back door.

3. It will also control a gateway to Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan and Armenia.

His critics ought to give George W. a little credit. He famously looked into Vladimir Putin's eyes and saw a soul. That's more than anybody else has ever found there.

We all learn lessons. Harry S. Truman, everybody's favorite no-nonsense president, met Stalin for the first time and thought he could "do business" with him. The Cold War followed soon afterward. Tyrants charm the unwary.

Mr. Putin, photographed with George W. at the Olympics, looked even more sour and dour than usual, his cold viper's eyes hooded and brooding, with the promise of malice and malevolence. George W. wasn't smiling, either. They clearly weren't talking about the remarkable performance of the American swimmers. George W. confided later that he was "firm with Vladimir Putin," and told him that the Russian invasion of Georgia "is unacceptable." This followed Dick Cheney's warning that the aggression "must not go unanswered."

Such talk often sounds tougher than it really is. Given the givens, the tough talk is probably all the answer Mr. Putin's regime should fear. President George H.W. Bush obviously meant it in that different time and place when he told Saddam Hussein that his seizure of Kuwait "will not stand." Georgia is an ally of the West, having sent 2,000 soldiers to Iraq, but nobody expects to see American tanks and bombers answer Russian tanks and bombers to settle a family feud. George W. is looking to exit stage right and doesn't have the bombers and tanks available to answer the Russians, even if he wanted to, and Vladimir Putin knows it. The "strong letter of protest" is about all the old KGB hand has to fear.

Brutal as it is, the Russian invasion didn't surprise the observant. The message to the Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, was clear enough: Forget any idea of taking Georgia into NATO. The Russians had been massing hundreds of tanks and light armor on the border for months, waiting for the moment. Now George W. is busy in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Iran is unfinished business. Flush with oil riches and buoyed on dreams of restoring Soviet glory, with the prospect of an inexperienced peacenik president at the threshold of the White House, Mr. Putin found his moment.

Vladimir Putin

Suddenly the front pages of American newspapers blossomed with headlines that might have been retrieved from the files of 1864: Georgia invaded by foreign soldiers burning its cities and looting its farms, as if the ghost of Father Abraham had emerged from the crypt to dispatch Sherman and his firebugs once more. The irony was compounded over the weekend when the Georgian president moved his Web site to an Internet server in Atlanta after a server in Tbilisi, the other Georgian capital, was trashed by Mr. Putin's government.

The Russians appeared yesterday to have moved past a mere warning to forget joining NATO. With the capture of the city of Gori in central Georgia, the Russians threatened the capital of Tbilisi. Mr. Putin's larger goal of returning Georgia to its subservient role as a satellite "republic" was now within his reach.

"Basically, it's been Chechnya all over again," says George H. Wittman, chairman of the National Institute for Public Policy, writing in the American Spectator, "and that is exactly the type of indiscriminate warfare at which the Russian army is so adept. Their job is not so much a matter of defeating an opposing army as it is inflicting maximum destruction on all who oppose them, civilian and military."

It was deja vu all over again. "The Russians will be here tomorrow," a villager in Tkviav tells a correspondent for the London Times. "They want to show us and the world how powerful they are. Tomorrow it will be Ukraine and nobody in the West is doing anything to stop them." A farmer tells another correspondent: "Why won't America and NATO help us? If they won't help us, why did we help them in Iraq?"

If not the Americans, who? America the Beautiful has been transformed into America the Bully, if you listen to the likes of Barack Obama and the glassy-eyed cult crying for mindless "change." But not if you listen to the pleading voices of the brutalized with no one else to turn to. The pitiful cries for help - "Why won't America help us?" - would break a banker's heart.

? Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.

Russia angered by Israeli drone sale to Georgia
TEL AVIV ? Israel has acknowledged the sale of unmanned aerial vehicles and other Israeli security support to Georgia which has prompted complaints and threats from Moscow.

Officials said the Defense Ministry approved the sale of several tactical UAV systems to Georgia in 2007. They said Georgia has used the unidentified UAVs for border reconnaissance missions.

Georgia has credited Israeli military assistance after claiming the destruction of at least 11 Russian combat aircraft and 50 main battle tanks.

"Israel should be proud of its military, which trained Georgian soldiers," Georgian Reintegration Minister Temur Yakobshvili told Israel Army radio on Aug 10.

"We killed 60 Russian soldiers just yesterday. The Russians have lost more than 50 tanks, and we have shot down 11 of their planes. They have sustained enormous damage in terms of manpower."

Russia has complained of the Israeli UAV sale to Georgia. In May 2008, the Russian Army shot down an Israeli UAV along the Georgian border. The UAV was not identified.

The Russian demand for Israel to stop military sales came amid the intensification of fighting with Georgia and carried with it the implicit threat of increased aid for Israel's enemies.

Israel has countered with complaints about Russia's military exports to Iran and Syria. Moscow, like Israel, has responded by insisting it sells only defensive systems.

Meanwhile, Israel has been divided over whether to continue weapons sales to Georgia, Middle East Newsline reported.

Officials said the debate pits the Defense Ministry against the Foreign Ministry. They said the Foreign Ministry has advocated a suspension of all weapons sales and support services to Georgia while the Defense Ministry sought to continue exports.

"The question is whether there should be a temporary suspension of arms exports to Georgia during the war with Russia," an official said.

In addition to UAVs and other defensive systems, industry sources said Israeli firms have also sold rockets as well as night-vision systems to Tbilisi.

On Aug. 10, the Israeli Defense Ministry, which has overseen an estimated $200 million in military exports to Georgia, convened senior staffers to review the Foreign Ministry recommendation. Officials said the ministry decided to continue to approve exports for non-lethal systems for military and security applications in Georgia.

"The Defense Ministry has been conducting a very wise policy," Amos Gilad, director of the Defense Ministry's political-military bureau, said. "It has taken all factors into account. Defensive systems have been sent, and they have not upset the strategic balance."

Moscow has also asserted that Israeli trainers were advising the Georgian military on how to shoot down Russian combat aircraft and disable main battle tanks.

In December 2007, Israel decided to end the sale of offensive military systems to Georgia, but did not cancel any contracts. Officials said Israel came under pressure from Russia, who warned that such sales would be deemed a hostile act. France and the United States have been leading arms exporters to Georgia.

Still, Russia has pressed Israel for a complete military embargo on Georgia. Officials said the Israeli Foreign Ministry was concerned that Moscow could retaliate by selling advanced weapons to Iran and Syria.

"The Foreign Ministry, and this includes the minister, does not want to give Russia a pretext for selling advanced systems to Iran and Syria," the official said.

For its part, Israel has warned Russia not to export the S-300PMU-2 air and missile defense system to Teheran. Western intelligence sources said S-300 components have already arrived in Iran and were expected to be assembled into operating systems in early 2009.

hey, Slav. i read that too. I read Debka everyday ;-)

likewise, i remember someone posting it on oprano years ago and its been part of my daily routine ever since. Their Middle east military strategies / speculations / opinions just dont get any better than this.

Устроим геноцид английского языка на гфу.ком

LOL, good one

say what

sweet, thx

I'm very surprised that lots of people think that Russia is trying to conquer Georgia. Russia is only protecting people of South Ossetia from Georgia's military forces. Saakashvili was the first to attack South Ossetia and he killed more than 2000! innocent people (including children) with the methods of Hitler. Saakashvili would kill much more if Russia woudn't stop them. The aim of Saakashvili was to make these people (the citizens of South Ossetia) go away from this area.

Fuck the Russians, they fucked up all Eastern Europe ...

Google.com was made by Russian guy too
OMG!!! Russians fucked ALL WORD!!!!
And thats nice!

Whatever chmo cyberxxx says here's what Ukrainian people think:

Как Вы оцениваете события, происходящие на территории Грузии?
13 августа, 09:24

Это агрессия со стороны России
62.7% (5324)

Это агрессия со стороны Грузии
19.3% (1635)

Это право осетин и абхазов на самозащиту
4% (343)

Это провокация Запада
10.3% (873)

Затрудняюсь ответить
3.7% (316)

Проголосовало: 8491


Fuck Russian Invaders. You are pisdec to the world, chmornia.

This is Russian Agression :
62.7% (5324)

Is it from tbilisi.gov.com?

At CNN.COM Was
Это агрессия со стороны Грузии 87%

See the poll, moron, read in between lines, Russia wont have any chance to become a civilised country. You are just Russian basement shit and your propaganda screaming wont change a thing.

You ambicious ass is so big you want to bite a worlds attention by all means. Here's what you got, suck my loli-pop!

The poll is :

Опрос
Как Вы оцениваете события, происходящие на территории Грузии?
13 августа, 09:34

Это агрессия со стороны России
62.7% (5357)

Это агрессия со стороны Грузии
19.3% (1648)

Это право осетин и абхазов на самозащиту
4% (346)

Это провокация Запада
10.3% (880)

Затрудняюсь ответить
3.7% (316)

Проголосовало: 8547

No, I have taken that from:
http://korrespondent.net/ ( right column ) ( a Ukrainian newspaper )

don't be a jerk, ah, i forgot, you are a jerk.

So what? You have posted it two times and asked me to look at it. I have looked. So what?

Adultmix, I didn't get your message. Who cares what you think? Who gives a shit about your poll? Russia has protected its people. Saakashvili's ass was kicked and he will be sued or killed because he is a war criminal. NATO hasn't helped him and let him know they don't give a shit about him as well as they don't give a shit about Ukraine. You are small countries w/o resources, so you will be used by NATO any time and left in your won shit - learn the Georgian lesson. Enjoy ;)

94% of Russians support Russian peace keeping operation in Georgia. So no one gives a shit about your poll. The Russian persistent MUST protect Russian citizens and of course he don't have to listen a pool made by Nazi SS grandsons. Relax - no one here gives a flying fuck about you are your country. You may continue jerking on your grandpa's medals which he got for a Jewish genocide, and STFU

FYI:

Putin and Bush a few days ago. Do you think these guys will start a war between each other just to help some Georgia or Ukraine? Usual Americans even have no idea there are such countries on the map LOL

Once again: a useful whore yesterday, a used whore today, a useless whore tomorrow. This is how the USA see Georgia and Ukraine. So relax

P.S. If you don't trust me (course you not, because a Nazi will never trust to a Russian), so you can ask the American and EU people here. Will they fight against Russia to protect Georgia or Ukraine. I believe you well be surprised a lot

пиздюшок, ты куда гребешь-то,.. здешнее сообщество уже оценило тебя как знатного жополиза, акстись.