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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    People using adwords...

    Do you usually bid to get the #1 position or do you prefer to pay less and end up 4th place for example?
  • spasmo
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2005
    • 2678

    #2
    It depends on the keyword and what I'm promoting. My best guess is 5% top spot, 85% 3 through 8 and the remainder on the second page.

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    • fallenmuffin
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2005
      • 8170

      #3
      Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

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      • spasmo
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2005
        • 2678

        #4
        Originally posted by fallenmuffin
        Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/
        Are you sure your bid is high enough for your ad to actually show up? The estimates can be misleading. Sometimes they indicate a certain number of clicks per day even when your bid is too low to make the bottom of the list.

        You might try boosting your bid for a couple of minutes to see if your ad shows up. If it's a high cost keyword I'd keep a live tail on your logs grep'ing for google in case it lights and you start getting slammed in the wallet.
        Last edited by spasmo; 06-06-2006, 05:17 PM. Reason: Too wordy

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        • 2HousePlague
          CURATOR
          • Jul 2004
          • 14572

          #5
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          • spasmo
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2005
            • 2678

            #6
            Originally posted by 2HousePlague
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            • fallenmuffin
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2005
              • 8170

              #7
              Originally posted by spasmo
              Are you sure your bid is high enough for your ad to actually show up? The estimates can be misleading. Sometimes they indicate a certain number of clicks per day even when your bid is too low to make the bottom of the list.

              You might try boosting your bid for a couple of minutes to see if your ad shows up. If it's a high cost keyword I'd keep a live tail on your logs grep'ing for google in case it lights and you start getting slammed in the wallet.

              I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

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              • blackfeet
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 589

                #8
                i never try for #1.

                most surfers try at least 3 links before they buy.

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                • spasmo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2678

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                  I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..
                  If I understand correctly, your ads have never had any impressions, right?

                  An example bid for a keyword set of mine that is at the top:

                  Default bid:
                  USD $0.80 Max CPC [?]
                  Content bid:
                  USD $0.03 Max CPC [?] (always watch your content bids -- scammers abound)

                  If I were to drop the default search bid to $0.19 for that keyword set the ad wouldn't even run, yet under "Estimate Search Traffic" it says I would be spending $330 per day, which is nowhere near reality (there isn't that much traffic).

                  I've never seen an option for bid whatever it takes. I do have each campaign capped, but I've always seen that as a stop-gap in case something goes bonkers when I don't have my eye on it. I've never actually hit a cap.

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                  • FunForOne
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8704

                    #10
                    I"ve doing some adwords for a mainstream deal for a few years. All of the sudden last week without changing anything, my clicks just dropped to 1/5 of what they were getting daily.

                    I dont understand, it wasn't a new campaign or anything. I guess a new player came in town and started outbidding me.

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                    • fallenmuffin
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 8170

                      #11
                      Well I just switch from starter mode to advanced and seems my keywords had a buyin of $5.00 or something and since its capped at $30/mo thats an avg. of $1/day lol no idea what i'm doing

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                      • phil_in_oz
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 145

                        #12
                        Fuck adwords and fuck google, bunch of false clicks thieving scum c*nts. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

                        ahhh, that feels better
                        Go ahead, make my day.

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                        • spasmo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2678

                          #13
                          Yikes! Find some less expensive keywords to practice with first.

                          Make sure you do the math to be sure you can make your money back before you bet the farm.

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                          • 2HousePlague
                            CURATOR
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 14572

                            #14
                            Originally posted by phil_in_oz
                            Fuck adwords and fuck google, bunch of false clicks thieving scum c*nts. http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

                            ahhh, that feels better
                            Dassum funny shit, yo --




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                            • phil_in_oz
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 145

                              #15
                              hehe - you should check out her archived rants 2HP - some gems in there - things we all know that go on with google's clickfraud etc.

                              http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo.../05/index.html

                              I'm never spending another dime on adwords again EVER. Fuckem.
                              Go ahead, make my day.

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                              • 2HousePlague
                                CURATOR
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 14572

                                #16
                                Originally posted by phil_in_oz
                                hehe - you should check out her archived rants 2HP - some gems in there - things we all know that go on with google's clickfraud etc.

                                http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo.../05/index.html

                                I'm never spending another dime on adwords again EVER. Fuckem.
                                Thanks for the link.


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                                tada!

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                                • Dirty F
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 59204

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                  I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

                                  Your MONTHLY budget is $30?

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                                  • aico
                                    Moo Moo Cow
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 14748

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                    I have it set for google to bid whatever it takes and my monthly budget as $30.. so after $30 is gone it stops..

                                    Monthly budget of $30??? shit that's less than half my daily budget.

                                    edit: On one campaign.
                                    Last edited by aico; 06-06-2006, 06:34 PM.

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                                    • BradM
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 3397

                                      #19
                                      Franck... spot 3 or 4 is best.

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                                      • Pornwolf
                                        Drunk and Unruly
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 22712

                                        #20
                                        It varies. Sometimes the ROI is so sweet that #1 is useful.
                                        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                        Webair, bitches.

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                                        • HouseHead
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 5539

                                          #21
                                          Never really fooked with adwords..Might have to look into it a bit more..Good info right here
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                                          • Dirty F
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 59204

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BradM
                                            Franck... spot 3 or 4 is best.
                                            Thats what i usually have with good result. Just never tried paying the max to get #1 spots.

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                                            • fallenmuffin
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 8170

                                              #23
                                              Yeah.. $30 big ones.. gotta test the water folks. lol I'm not a big player like you clearly.

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                                              • spasmo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2005
                                                • 2678

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                                Yeah.. $30 big ones.. gotta test the water folks. lol I'm not a big player like you clearly.
                                                Smart move. Once you get the hang of it you can ratchet it up as high as your budget will allow.

                                                You'll have to spend more than $30 to figure out what works, but you can spread it out over a period of time.

                                                Best of luck!

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                                                • aico
                                                  Moo Moo Cow
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 14748

                                                  #25
                                                  Another tip... use Google Trends to find out which countries (Regions) are the top clickers for your keyword(s), then use the filters to only show your ads for those top countries.

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                                                  • Dirty F
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 59204

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                    Another tip... use Google Trends to find out which countries (Regions) are the top clickers for your keyword(s), then use the filters to only show your ads for those top countries.


                                                    I would seriously worry more if they buy or not. I mean China can be the top clicking country but i dont think i want them to click my ads.

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                                                    • aico
                                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 14748

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                      I would seriously worry more if they buy or not. I mean China can be the top clicking country but i dont think i want them to click my ads.

                                                      Google blocks porn in China... but ya, I know what you are saying, it's just a Tip, not the Whole solution...

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                                                      • Phoenix
                                                        BACON BACON BACON
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 35475

                                                        #28
                                                        ppc traffic sucks...dont waste your time...this thread is full of falsehoods

                                                        everyone go back to doing something else thanks
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                                                        • bdld
                                                          $100,000
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 11452

                                                          #29
                                                          adult is different than mainstream, i can think of more advantages to having the top stop in adult than in mainstream.

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                                                          • aico
                                                            Moo Moo Cow
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 14748

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                            ppc traffic sucks...dont waste your time...this thread is full of falsehoods

                                                            everyone go back to doing something else thanks
                                                            Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

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                                                            • Phoenix
                                                              BACON BACON BACON
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 35475

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by aico
                                                              Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.

                                                              nicely done
                                                              Telegram PhoenixBrad
                                                              https://quantads.io

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                                                              • spasmo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                • 2678

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                                Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.
                                                                Don't ask, don't tell, but I suspect it's the same (and only) sponsor I push with PPC.

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                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 32467

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Adwords...

                                                                  #1 - Adwords works like the sandbox. A certain amount of favoritism is given to the people who have been there the longest. So if you are a newb trying to be the first one for something like Milf Hunter, good luck to you. You can put up a bid of $20 per click and it wouldn't matter.

                                                                  #2 - Adwords is on a clicks per shown ratio. So even if you spend $10 per click on Milf Hunter, the guy with a better ad for $0.18 a click will still be #1.

                                                                  #3 - Setting a small budget is one of the biggest factors for showing your ad less... If you set it to $100 per month and $30 per day, good luck... Google bases who gets shown bigtime on their ability to pay consistently... So someone with a lower bid but a $1000 a month/$150 a day budget will kick your ass even though they never get anywhere near the budget amount. They just have to show they have balls...

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                                                                  • sh33p
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 541

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                                    Monthly budget of $30??? shit that's less than half my daily budget.

                                                                    edit: On one campaign.

                                                                    heh, fuq, I have a $440 daily budget on there.

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                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 59204

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                      Adwords...

                                                                      #1 - Adwords works like the sandbox. A certain amount of favoritism is given to the people who have been there the longest. So if you are a newb trying to be the first one for something like Milf Hunter, good luck to you. You can put up a bid of $20 per click and it wouldn't matter.

                                                                      #2 - Adwords is on a clicks per shown ratio. So even if you spend $10 per click on Milf Hunter, the guy with a better ad for $0.18 a click will still be #1.

                                                                      #3 - Setting a small budget is one of the biggest factors for showing your ad less... If you set it to $100 per month and $30 per day, good luck... Google bases who gets shown bigtime on their ability to pay consistently... So someone with a lower bid but a $1000 a month/$150 a day budget will kick your ass even though they never get anywhere near the budget amount. They just have to show they have balls...

                                                                      Some good points ive learned as well over the months

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                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 59204

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Its kinda odd though they do that. I mean when youre just starting out with adwords its really hard to get decent listings and results. It took me months of having my account to make some good sales with the same campaign.

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                                                                        • Theo
                                                                          HAL 9000
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 34515

                                                                          #37
                                                                          if you know what you are doing with adwords, you can turn content traffic more profitable than search traffic

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                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 18208

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                                                            Just starting doing adwords for one of my sites.. Has said "Your ad is now active and should be getting impressions soon" for a week.. :/

                                                                            Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                                                            Well I just switch from starter mode to advanced and seems my keywords had a buyin of $5.00 or something and since its capped at $30/mo thats an avg. of $1/day lol no idea what i'm doing
                                                                            Ok I can tell you that with a $30 a month budget and $5 per keywords it's no wonder you aren't getting any impressions.

                                                                            First of all $5 is WAY to high to be bidding. You shouldn't even be bidding $1 for any keyword.

                                                                            Second $30 a month is WAY to small of a budget. Even if you were only paying 5 cents per click that would be too small. I can tell you that usually you'll spend maybe a 1/3 - 1/2 of what you actually budget for. If my budget was set at what I actually spent I would get maybe 1/2 to 1/3 the clicks I get. $1 a day means they won't charge you more than $30 a month not that they will actually charge you $30. If you really only want to spend $30 a month you should set your monthly budget to at least $75. which would be $2.50 a day. But like I said $30 is WAY to small. If you are just "testing the waters" you're better off spending that $30 over a week, but even that is too small. If you're not willing to spend at least $100 then maybe you shouldn't get into AdWords. So $100 over a week is $14 a day so I would set my daily budget at $30 minimum in order to be able to spend that $100. Not like you can't pause your ads if you are spending too much.

                                                                            Also I will tell you that with adult content your ads and keywords will be reviewed before they go live. Google didn't use to do this but they do now. I've been using AdWords for 4 years now and go through $30 in a few hours and I get treated like this. Also sometimes they are a little slow reviewing so if you ad hasn't started after a day then e-mail them or call them 1-866-2GOOGLE and ask why your ads aren't showing. Also forget changing your ads or adding keywords Friday-Sunday they won't be reviewed until Monday. And you won't get anyone to answer e-mail or the phone then either.

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                                                                            • Rui
                                                                              web
                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                              • 9533

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                              You shouldn't even be bidding $1 for any keyword.
                                                                              ...

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                                                                              • bigdog
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 6964

                                                                                #40
                                                                                you need 2 or 3 account reps like wiredguy has

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                                                                                • ssp
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                  • 7990

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I tend to go for positions in the middle of the screenheight. My theory is that people always focus on the middle of a page (like when reading GFY, I always scroll replies until they reach the middle).

                                                                                  Just make sure your ad text stands out from the crowd when you go for a middle position (4-5).

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                                                                                  • Brad Gosse
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 2616

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I bid for the top positions. You get way more traffic.

                                                                                    + A well written ad doesn't have to pay top dollar if the CTR is good enough ;)
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                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 18208

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Rui
                                                                                      ...

                                                                                      I'm talking about porn retard. Hmmmm $35 say per sign up. Ok pay $5 a click and you have to get 1:7 just to break even. Ok real fucking smart. Like that'll happen on a consistant basis.

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                                                                                      • Tom_PM
                                                                                        Porn Meister
                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                        • 16443

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        By saying you have a $30 a month budget, then I assume you used their Budget Optimizer system (under Bidding on your Edit Campaign Settings screen). Thats where they limit you to your monthly budget, and spread clicks out.. Which means you're going to get like 1 click per day, then all the leftovers on the last day of the month. I'd change that to Manual and use a daily budget.
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                                                                                        • gooddomains
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 10127

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          adwords can be good for you

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                                                                                          • rezzz
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                                                            • 69

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by aico
                                                                                            Thanks for the tip, but I think I will keep the $4,500+ I make a month from one sponsor with one keyword with my PPC.
                                                                                            wow that's great -- I suppose that you won't be telling anyone that source huh?
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                                                                                            • rezzz
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                              • 69

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by spasmo
                                                                                              Don't ask, don't tell, but I suspect it's the same (and only) sponsor I push with PPC.
                                                                                              like I said, I suppose this won't be revealled huh? ;) ;)
                                                                                              The Sex Maze | ICQ: 207-867-715

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                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Found a cool product yesterday very few people promote...results looking good so far.

                                                                                                Adwords is so much fun!

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