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"why is that ? the guy was obviously nuts. he wasn't thinking about consequences , thus killing him wouldn't be a deterrent to others in the same situation."
So what...
Not a chance in hell for em to do it again.
The death penalty _SHOULD_ exist in any country. Tax dollars are _wasted_ feeding, clothing and sheltering people who are not worthy of such things. The money spent in prisons around the world housing murderers, pedo's and rapists (The only 3 crimes I can think of off the top of my head that warrant death, I'm sure there are dozens more) must be in the gazillions of dollars.
Some people say let them suffer, let them pay their debt, blah blah blah. I'll tell you what. You kill them, it's over for them, it's over for you. Your taxes (especially in the states and other countries with the "death penalty") are spent housing people who don't deserve to live. You believe in god? I don't, and I'll tell you what, it's a fuck of a lot cheaper to burn and bury a murderer than it is to house, clothe and feed him for the rest of his life, or to worry about when they might get out.
And for anyone who is shocked that they found the dead guy's meat in his stomach, are you really shocked? HE CHOPPED THE DUDES FUCKING HEAD OFF with a rambo knife. The extent of my shock ended there, anything after that is irrelevant gravy and sensationalism for the media. Of course he fucking ate him, he's nuts. He probably cut the guys cock off and shoved it up his ass, I could fucking care less. He's mental, let's kill him and move on to the next one.
You put that whack job in the prison gp and he's going to get fucked up the ass with a broom Dahmer style. Nothing wrong with that IMO aside from the fact that it could take years and _HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS_ of dollars (Food, nice orange jumpsuit, you have to pay the guards, when we SHOULD be going old school, set up a firing squad and spend a dollar in bullets to get rid of him. Instead, let's place him in secure custody and pay twice as much to provide him with basic life necessities. Jesus loves him, and you as well.
Thank you, religion, for making people think that putting people in jail until they die is somehow better than just blowing their fucking heads off right off the bat. "But it's giving him what he wants!" Good! I want him fucking dead too because nothing could make me more angry than supporting some shithead behind 16 foot concrete walls for the rest of their natural life.
in most countries of the world he wouldn't have made it off of the bus alive
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Thank you, religion, for making people think that putting people in jail until they die is somehow better than just blowing their fucking heads off right off the bat. "But it's giving him what he wants!" Good! I want him fucking dead too because nothing could make me more angry than supporting some shithead behind 16 foot concrete walls for the rest of their natural life.
It's not religion... Religion was one of the main proponents of the death penalty, and many religions (i.e. Islam) still hold true that. Christianity has been forced to reinvent itself because society changed around it. It is the leftists (in the media, in politics, etc) who have moved many nations away from the death penalty.
I believe the maximum penalty for anything in Canada is 25 years. You can get multiple life sentences, but they're served at the same time, not one after the other.. I might be wrong, or maybe it's changed, but that's what I remember.
They can label the person with the the dangerous offender act which is basically a true life sentence.
Instead of encouraging their own population to make more children they are bringing over 'hardworkers' such as that gentlemen. It is dangerous to ride the bus up there, the gentleman sitting beside you can either cough on you and give you Tuberculosis / SARS or just pull a knife and chop your head off.
It's not religion... Religion was one of the main proponents of the death penalty, and many religions (i.e. Islam) still hold true that. Christianity has been forced to reinvent itself because society changed around it. It is the leftists (in the media, in politics, etc) who have moved many nations away from the death penalty.
Whaaaat? I said it's religion, and you say "It's not religion", and then:
Religion was one of the main proponents of the death penalty, and many religions (i.e. Islam) still hold true that.
Religion has to reinvent itself because everday more and more people wake up and start laughing at the prospect of a man in the sky dictating how they should live their lives. Leftists schmeftists, one day religion wants an eye for an eye, the next day it wants you to love thy neighbor (and forgive thy priest who pounded your ass for 5 years when you were an alter boy), the next day religion wants you to kill in the name of your god, etc, etc.
As much as you say religion is NOT a part of it, I say, and KNOW it's a part (all) of it. Don't think religion doesn't reinvent itself with the times, why do you think organized religion is allowing more and more things? Why are fags now allowed to be ministers in protestant churches? It won't be but another pope or two before Catholic priest's can be married and fuck people who are female and above the age of 10 (just like they used to be, but likely back in the day they fucked those young boys as well as their wives and gay lovers.
Churches are are fucking BUSINESS like any other. Just like unions cry and moan about lost jobs when a factory closes (even though there are jobs in the city for every single union worker), They cry because THEY ARE LOSING FUCKING MEMBERS AND MEMBERS = INCOME. A church is no different. A chuch operates no differently, it's a business, it's job is to retain members. If nobody goes to a church, the church closes down and baby jesus dies. The same thing with a union. If there are no members, baby jesus dies. Wait, that's not right. Baby jesus doesn't die, but they would have you believe he's going to if you don't join them RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
If everybody believed when you die that's it, _EVERY SINGLE FUCKING COUNTRY ON THE PLANET_ would have the death penalty. Why? Because as logical, free thinking adults, we come to logical conclusions. Logic tells me it's a fucking STOOOOOPID idea to pay to support a worthless piece of shit in prison when that money could be spent paying off the national debt, (your federal cause here), (your federal cause here), etc, etc.
Anyway, praise jesus, praise greyhound and praise rambo knife wielding head chopping chinamen. Because without them, our world might just get fucked up.
Shit... hopefully we won't have any more of those asian crackheads touching American soil (American as in the continent!) ...still .. I don't know if raw human meat is being introduced as a new Chinese delicacy
Originally posted by d-null
in most countries of the world he wouldn't have made it off of the bus alive
Yeap... that's partially true, I've heard people in some cental american countries publicly beat and burn alive rapists ... don't think it would be any different with guys like this....
where did you read that? I read that he was closer to 200 lbs
I got it wrong. The victim was the small guy. A 6 foot 200lb dude with a hunting knife against a 130 - 150lb guy who is asleep. Poor kid didn't stand a chance.
Only thing that makes me laugh is that the Canadians are happier paying for that sick fuck to sit in a box using thier tax dollars for rest of his life and the tax payers lives.
Whaaaat? I said it's religion, and you say "It's not religion", and then:
Religion has to reinvent itself because everday more and more people wake up and start laughing at the prospect of a man in the sky dictating how they should live their lives. Leftists schmeftists, one day religion wants an eye for an eye, the next day it wants you to love thy neighbor (and forgive thy priest who pounded your ass for 5 years when you were an alter boy), the next day religion wants you to kill in the name of your god, etc, etc.
As much as you say religion is NOT a part of it, I say, and KNOW it's a part (all) of it. Don't think religion doesn't reinvent itself with the times, why do you think organized religion is allowing more and more things? Why are fags now allowed to be ministers in protestant churches? It won't be but another pope or two before Catholic priest's can be married and fuck people who are female and above the age of 10 (just like they used to be, but likely back in the day they fucked those young boys as well as their wives and gay lovers.
Churches are are fucking BUSINESS like any other. Just like unions cry and moan about lost jobs when a factory closes (even though there are jobs in the city for every single union worker), They cry because THEY ARE LOSING FUCKING MEMBERS AND MEMBERS = INCOME. A church is no different. A chuch operates no differently, it's a business, it's job is to retain members. If nobody goes to a church, the church closes down and baby jesus dies. The same thing with a union. If there are no members, baby jesus dies. Wait, that's not right. Baby jesus doesn't die, but they would have you believe he's going to if you don't join them RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
If everybody believed when you die that's it, _EVERY SINGLE FUCKING COUNTRY ON THE PLANET_ would have the death penalty. Why? Because as logical, free thinking adults, we come to logical conclusions. Logic tells me it's a fucking STOOOOOPID idea to pay to support a worthless piece of shit in prison when that money could be spent paying off the national debt, (your federal cause here), (your federal cause here), etc, etc.
Anyway, praise jesus, praise greyhound and praise rambo knife wielding head chopping chinamen. Because without them, our world might just get fucked up.
Shit... hopefully we won't have any more of those asian crackheads touching American soil (American as in the continent!) ...still .. I don't know if raw human meat is being introduced as a new Chinese delicacy
Google 'Charles Ng'.
(who, BTW - also ended up in Canada after fleeing the U.S.)
Anyone who says that they would have jumped in and helped the guy is an idiot. And if it ever happens that I'm in that situation, and the dude is being stabbed, and I see a guy run up and try to stop the guy, the guy turns around and kills the guy that's helping, I'm not going to say 'fuck, what a brave guy' I'm going to say 'hahaha you fucking IDIOT'
Why get involved? Why put yourself in danger to help out some dude you don't even know?
I don't give a fuck if the guy gets up and starts stabbing everyone on the fucking bus as long as he leaves me alone and doesn't splash me with the blood.
It doesn't affect me in the least bit, I get off the bus and those people might as well have just died since I'm not going to see them again or anything like that. If it's a buddy getting stabbed then sure, I'll risk it. If it's a family member then of course I'd risk it, but if its someone who I really don't know and don't give 2 shits about then I don't give a fuck. And at the same time if I was getting stabbed I wouldn't expect anyone to jump in, I'd deal with it and/or die.
Anyone who says that they would have jumped in and helped the guy is an idiot. And if it ever happens that I'm in that situation, and the dude is being stabbed, and I see a guy run up and try to stop the guy, the guy turns around and kills the guy that's helping, I'm not going to say 'fuck, what a brave guy' I'm going to say 'hahaha you fucking IDIOT'
Why get involved? Why put yourself in danger to help out some dude you don't even know?
I don't give a fuck if the guy gets up and starts stabbing everyone on the fucking bus as long as he leaves me alone and doesn't splash me with the blood.
It doesn't affect me in the least bit, I get off the bus and those people might as well have just died since I'm not going to see them again or anything like that. If it's a buddy getting stabbed then sure, I'll risk it. If it's a family member then of course I'd risk it, but if its someone who I really don't know and don't give 2 shits about then I don't give a fuck. And at the same time if I was getting stabbed I wouldn't expect anyone to jump in, I'd deal with it and/or die.
So...you're saying "Fuck the rest of society - I'm saving myself."
I have to wonder if you'd change your tune if some stranger rushed into your burning house and saved you and your family in the middle of the night. Or dragged your carcass from a burning car wreck.
So...you're saying "Fuck the rest of society - I'm saving myself."
I have to wonder if you'd change your tune if some stranger rushed into your burning house and saved you and your family in the middle of the night. Or dragged your carcass from a burning car wreck.
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying! I'll look out for myself, everyone else look out for themselves.
I'm sure I'd be thankful for anyone who saved me from a fire or anything like that, and I'm not saying I wouldn't be, but I wouldn't expect it from anyone, and I would never hold it against someone for NOT rushing into the burning house (if I happened to survive).
Leave the helping to the helpers (police, firefighters, etc)
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying! I'll look out for myself, everyone else look out for themselves.
I'm sure I'd be thankful for anyone who saved me from a fire or anything like that, and I'm not saying I wouldn't be, but I wouldn't expect it from anyone, and I would never hold it against someone for NOT rushing into the burning house (if I happened to survive).
Leave the helping to the helpers (police, firefighters, etc)
The nightly news is full of stories where the professional "helpers" arrive too late to save a victim.
What then?
Often times a good samaritan steps forward and does what he/she feels needs to be done.
Its called humanity.
I'm not necessarily saying I'd have leaped to the defense of the victim on the Greyhound bus - and I'm not faulting the other passengers who didn't either. I wasn't there and weren't in their shoes at the time. But I know my mind would be racing with thoughts of how to help...and whether I'd act would depend on the circumstances and logistics of the situation.
The nightly news is full of stories where the professional "helpers" arrive too late to save a victim.
What then?
Often times a good samaritan steps forward and does what he/she feels needs to be done.
Its called humanity.
I'm not necessarily saying I'd have leaped to the defense of the victim on the Greyhound bus - and I'm not faulting the other passengers who didn't either. I wasn't there and weren't in their shoes at the time. But I know my mind would be racing with thoughts of how to help...and whether I'd act would depend on the circumstances and logistics of the situation.
I know what you mean, I'm just a selfish guy. That's what it comes down to, if it doesn't help me out then I want no part in it. If it's going to make things worse then I definitely don't want anything to do with it.
Sounds shitty but it's done wonders for me in life!
Anyone who says that they would have jumped in and helped the guy is an idiot. And if it ever happens that I'm in that situation, and the dude is being stabbed, and I see a guy run up and try to stop the guy, the guy turns around and kills the guy that's helping, I'm not going to say 'fuck, what a brave guy' I'm going to say 'hahaha you fucking IDIOT'
Why get involved? Why put yourself in danger to help out some dude you don't even know?
I don't give a fuck if the guy gets up and starts stabbing everyone on the fucking bus as long as he leaves me alone and doesn't splash me with the blood.
It doesn't affect me in the least bit, I get off the bus and those people might as well have just died since I'm not going to see them again or anything like that. If it's a buddy getting stabbed then sure, I'll risk it. If it's a family member then of course I'd risk it, but if its someone who I really don't know and don't give 2 shits about then I don't give a fuck. And at the same time if I was getting stabbed I wouldn't expect anyone to jump in, I'd deal with it and/or die.
for what it's worth the death penalty is NOT cheaper than life in prison. Of course it should be, but keeping inmates on deathrow and the long-winded appeals process make it more expensive in general.
My main gripe with the death penalty is that innocent people do die under this system.
why is that ? the guy was obviously nuts. he wasn't thinking about consequences , thus killing him wouldn't be a deterrent to others in the same situation.
If you were to give the death penalty to someone , might as well be as a deterrent instead of just to get even.
like say someone who comitted an illegal act then ran over someone and killed them . like maybe a drunk driver. This would make lots of people think twice.
i was gonna say the same til i remembered jeff dahmer was deemed competent to stand trial...but yeah such an irattional incident pretty much does guarntee he was/is insane...but you can be insane and still know what you are doing is wrong and be sentenced to death ie dahmer
Last edited by BusterBunny; 08-06-2008, 09:37 PM.
Reason: i didnt edit, it's a conspiracy
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