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Oh shit.Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Do you realize what the definition of assault is? A police officer can come up to you and sock you in the face, and technically YOU just assaulted him because you physically came into contact with him. Whenver I see the phrase "assaulted a police officer" I always think about episodes of COPS where some random guy gets chased, roughed up by cops, and then charged with assault.Originally posted by damian2001Cary | AIM: cheesefrog | ICQ: 4287002Comment
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Originally posted by edgeprod
Hey moron.. stop assuming...
Here's more details..
http://www.freepress.org/departments...y/10/2006/1950
But you are a lost cause... might as well don't bother ...lolComment
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Because that sounds plausible.Originally posted by CheeseFrogComment
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Hey sexy.. get back on your knees. Daddy has a new load for you.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netComment
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Protester is defiant to the last
Hearing delayed over T-shirt; judge gives her 60 days in jail
Saturday, June 03, 2006
Damian G. Guevara
Plain Dealer Reporter
Political activist Carolyn Fisher stood before a Cuyahoga County judge and remained defiant even as she faced jail time for attacking two police officers.
Fisher told Common Pleas Judge Timothy J. McGinty that she was wrongfully arrested and accused McGinty of attempting to silence political dissent and intimidate her.
"Let's get real," McGinty said, pointing a pen at Fisher. "You're here because you've been convicted. . . . I'm not here to listen to your political diatribe."
McGinty ended Friday's quarrelsome, two-part sentencing hearing by sending Fisher to County Jail for 60 days and putting her on probation for two years. Adding to the tense atmosphere were more than 20 of Fisher's supporters, three of whom were kicked out of the courtroom for making political statements or exclamations.
A jury found Fisher, 54, of Cleveland, guilty in April of assaulting two Cleveland Heights patrolmen. The confrontation occurred in January after the officers ordered Fisher to take down anti-Bush fliers she had placed on utility poles. Posting fliers is against city ordinances.
McGinty warned Fisher then that she should be prepared to apologize to the officers at her sentencing, or "bring your toothbrush," indicating that she would be sent to prison.
The bespectacled, silver-haired woman's reply Friday: "You wanted an apology, you wanted remorse -- forget about it."
Friday's drama was the end of a contentious five months. From the start, Fisher and her supporters claimed that police had political motivations for arresting her, and that the officers abused her.
Last month, McGinty sent Fisher to jail because she refused to undergo a psychiatric evaluation and did not show up for a hearing and probation interview. McGinty freed her after she complied.
The tension continued Friday when McGinty angrily postponed a morning hearing because Fisher wore a T-shirt bearing a mock "wanted" poster that included the faces of President George W. Bush and members of his administration. McGinty chastised Fisher and ordered her to come back in different attire.
"We are not here about her protest," McGinty said. "This is not about the war."
While Fisher's lawyer, Terry Gilbert, said he thought McGinty acted inappropriately when he demanded that Fisher change clothes, the court's presiding judge, Nancy McDonnell, said a judge can dictate what is worn in the courtroom to maintain decorum.
Fisher and several of her supporters returned for the afternoon hearing wearing the anti-Bush shirts, but McGinty did not make an issue of it.
Gilbert said Fisher plans to appeal the conviction.Comment
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"Downing, who later that day sought medical treatment himself with Frinzl, showed the jurors scars from where Fisher had plunged her nails into the webbing of his left hand and told them about a bite wound between his neck and shoulder."Originally posted by CheeseFrog
YEAH SHE TOTALLY GOT PUNCHED IN THE FACE!Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! Comment
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I do lots of business here, and take a bit of time each day to respond to the moronic liberal crap that loads these forums up everyday and is spread by utter nincompoops.Originally posted by WebbyAs I asked before - why the fuck are you here sicko?
And.. for your diseased brain - I'm neither a liberal, conservatve or any of your other bullshit.
Quit clogging the board up with your spewage one-liners.
I guess you think the manner in which GregB posted this, and the article he posted wasnt misleading, and slanted towards further undermining our current administration eh? I should just let utter bullshit that is totally unfounded be passed off as truth without making a murmer. Seems you have a double fucking standard bub.
You want to silence me, but run to the defense of someone who ASSULTED fuckin police officers. You run to her side to defend her free speech, but ask me why I am here?
Fuckin typical. Fuck off you clog wearing, tree hugging, ass fingering, ball sucking, cum guzzling, commie dick drip.
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You didn?t just call someone a retard, did you Sticky? You are an apologist for Bush. It doesn?t get any more retarded than that.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetYes cause I dont know how to spell Fuckin. I own the domain www.thatsfuckinhot.com you FUCKING MORON! Say Fickin. Its a way to spell it to note a certain pronunciation of the word. You are a retard.
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lol.. ok whatever retard...Originally posted by edgeprod
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Wow boy you got me there....Originally posted by minusonebitYou didn?t just call someone a retard, did you Sticky? You are an apologist for Bush. It doesn?t get any more retarded than that.
Your wit blows us all away. Weeeee!!
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Hey StickyFingers... Bush wants you to jump off a bridge... I swear! 
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Great I would tell him no. lol You assume just cause I agree with him on most issues, I follow blindly.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netHey StickyFingers... Bush wants you to jump off a bridge... I swear! Comment
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Haha, hey again sticks. Shit attracts us flies, eh?
OH MY GOD, GEORGE W. BUSH EATS HAM, THAT MEANS HE HATES JEWS! WTFOMGBBQ!!!11oneonetwoComment
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Well, perhaps that's the difference between a real police force and those in the US. "Words" where justified were never a big deal.Originally posted by bliket
Don't fucking give me the garbage about police officers protecting me. I got full respect for law officers I know of (in the US) - it's a pity they got to bother about your sicko sorry ass - tho some won't be covering your ass much longer and moving on to more sane territory.
Who gives a fuck if it's $100 dollar fine or whatever - that's all petty shit. And no.. I got no reason to consider assaulting any police officer or anyone - apart from your sad ass
Gawd.. hate to say it... and I'll be a "US hater" for doing so - but there sure are a load of really dumb sicko's there. It sure shows a totally fucked up image of the US. It's also ironic these are the same people who call others "haters" - they got more "hate" than anyone - including their own countrymen who don't agree with their ideas.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Eh, I agree on the issues, too, but I think Bush is a fucking moron. Right message, wrong messenger.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
But no one has offered a viable candidate in opposition. Why is it SO hard to find someone who isn't a dipshit or a sleazeball to run the country?Comment
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i think she should have got a reward not sent to jail...Affordable video and picture editing.
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It takes a big man to admit that....Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetComment
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funny watching people get so upset and emotional about a lie created only to incite the ignorant (i.e. you). afterall, any reasonable person would ask themselves right away "hmm.... what were the actual crimes she was charged with since "putting up a poster" isn't a crime"
whats that word you like so much to describe those who don't think for themselves... "sheep"???
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Good point, man. I agree with you 100%. The main difference I've spotted though (as a registered Indp., not a Rep. or Dem.) is that you don't see too many threads by Conservatives bitching about point A or point B. All the high-pitched hysteria seems to come from the "we hate Bush, but have only whining and no solutions" crowd. I just don't get the point -- do they just want to circle-jerk each other, or do they think some redneck Red-Stater is going to wake up one morning and suddenly go, "Oh! Shit! I was wrong!" .. I mean .. come on.Originally posted by WebbyComment
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I know you do my manOriginally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
It's a serious disease when you do that - not because of the politics - but it ain't even sense. You'd have done well in communist Russia or the Third Reich - and may not know it, but there's little difference.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I'm down.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netComment
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Again, agreed, 100%. No one side is right all the time .. it seems to be about 50/50. I end up yelling at the dumbshit Liberals on my TV as much as the dumbshit Conservatives, it seems. I can't BELIEVE the shit that comes out of their mouthes sometimes.Originally posted by WebbyComment
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Oh btw folks... Police brutaly is a MYTH.... edgeprod and stickyfingers can confirm... the police ALWAYS comes up with good arguments proving their innocence... like the nails marks.. Nothing to see here.. All judges are honest... Don't bother with the details... Let's go to sleep now..Comment
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Absolutely. And if you check the bite marks (because every sane person's first reaction is to BITE, right?), I bet they match the cop's dog, not the innocent little whacko who was arrested for nothing more than "putting up posters."Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
They did a good job bribing the jury, too. Or maybe they were all Republicans.Comment
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Originally posted by Pleasurepaysfunny watching people get so upset and emotional about a lie created only to incite the ignorant (i.e. you). afterall, any reasonable person would ask themselves right away "hmm.... what were the actual crimes she was charged with since "putting up a poster" isn't a crime"
whats that word you like so much to describe those who don't think for themselves... "sheep"???
yeah. .. Im sure you are on top of it pal... she was posting an anti-Bush poster.. 2 gentleman in uniform informed her that she couldnt do that and the she viciously assualted them... bitting them.. ect... You've never seen police brutaly videos havent you? You never heard about police brutaly cases involving political dissidents right ? What's on CNN right now btw? lol
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Do you have a large scar across your forehead by chance?Originally posted by xxxdesign-netyeah. .. Im sure you are on top of it pal... she was posting an anti-Bush poster.. 2 gentleman in uniform informed her that she couldnt do that and the she viciously assualted them... bitting them.. ect... You've never seen police brutaly videos havent you? You never heard about police brutaly cases involving political dissidents right ? What's on CNN right now btw? lol
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Yea.. agree edgeprod.Originally posted by edgeprod
To be honest.. I was fucking shocked to see this bullshit. I never actually knew there was so much apparent hatred in US politics - like it's not exactly common in other countries. It also is of no help or value whatsoever to the US when the country is divided like that.
OK.. there is a "thing" about Bush on an international level - and a kinda fucked scenario. It really does not matter whether what political persuasion Bush is - nobody cares too much outside the US. It has more to do with the actions than any dogma - and it's the actions that folks notice. I doubt there has been... least in recent decades, so much outrage on an international level as there has been over the current admin. It's getting to the stage of where the US is slowly becoming isolated and treated with scepticism - which is not exactly a great thing for anyone.
Apart from that - all folks have their problems - Clinton's was blowjobs, but the world never complained too much - it never caused them problems
PS BTW... There is very little truth to the popular myth "the world hates us"
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simple fact... try to grasp it.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netyeah. .. Im sure you are on top of it pal... she was posting an anti-Bush poster.. 2 gentleman in uniform informed her that she couldnt do that and the she viciously assualted them... bitting them.. ect... You've never seen police brutaly videos havent you? You never heard about police brutaly cases involving political dissidents right ? What's on CNN right now btw? lol
she was arrested for assaulting two police officers.
she was not arrested for posters.
you will find at some point that basic reading comprehension and simple fact checking are important tools in debate.Comment
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No, you're the only one sorry...Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetDo you have a large scar across your forehead by chance?
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Quit clogging this thread up with utter garbageOriginally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetDo you have a large scar across your forehead by chance?
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There's division for different reasons on both sides, from what I can see from my neutral standpoint. I call "bullshit" on Dems when they are just outright lying, and they accuse me of being a Republican. I call "bullshit" on Repubs when they are spinning and lying, and they accuse me of being a hippie Democrat. It's amusing.Originally posted by Webby
I think the division breaks down like this:
* The Liberals on this board (and other adult boards) tend to be younger kids, with no global perspective, who have, in their adult lives, lived through one or two Presidents -- hardly in a position to draw any conclusions. They parrot some of the subversive elements (usually the most extreme viewpoints) and try to turn black and white cases (like this assault on police officers) into some type of implication that, for example, the police, the judge, the jury, the D.A., and everyone else involved with the case is somehow in a conspiracy to make this woman look either crazy or guilty.
* The Conservatives get pissed by the ridiculousness of the statements by the Liberals (which I think, at least in part) are made just to ruffle feathers (at least I hope, because the extreme viewpoints are a bit hard to justify unless you subscribe to the sheep theory). They start slinging back, and then the Liberals (almost invariably) start flapping their gums about some other nonsense, almost ALWAYS resort to verbal assault and references to Fox News or Bill O'Reilly. It repeats itself until the tread dies.
How does it change any minds or make anyone money? Dunno. Oh well. Both sides look pretty stupid, from my vantage point.Comment
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Holy shit. Logic and reading skills.Originally posted by Pleasurepays
You, sir, are a rare product around these parts.Comment
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Puleeeze, eat ass and shit another generation.Originally posted by Pleasurepays
I read the damned article. I posted the headline summary. Somehow you extrapolated some half ass pseudo-psychological horsehit out of it.
Next time you wanna play Sigmund Freud do it on someone else's thread.Comment
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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
Seems you havent find those yet... please point out to me where it conclusively proves that she wasnt brutalized by the police first... Oh right.. you'll believe whatever the officers say... got it.. Police brutality is a myth.. not even worth considering the possibility...
Can you read those article as well as the other ones in this thread? http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/19883.php
http://www.freepress.org/departments...y/10/2006/1950
If you cant realise after reading those that the cops and judge might be at fault here, then you might as well join stickyfingers at his coolaid drinking parties...Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 06-03-2006, 08:15 PM.Comment
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One thing for sure - don't matter a toss where it comes from, but would be nice to see some action on relevant stuff - eg economy, trade deficits, healthcare blah - and show both the US people and the world there is some ability to take care of hurricane relief and reconstruction.Originally posted by edgeprod
I really don't give a shit about stupid politics - but do care about people who "should" matter more. Some of my best friends are in the US and they can see the shit rising and are going to end up shipping out unless it does improve. I really can't blame em - a couple have spent most of their lives as govt officers or "serving their country" - and just makes me feel bad for em. They risked more than *anyone* on eg GFY has ever risked in their lives - kinda sad.
PS... The will prob leave anyways and I'm fucking pleased to be able to donate them areas of land to set up home - they deserve it.Last edited by Webby; 06-03-2006, 08:19 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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you are just one more simpleton accusing others of "not getting it" as you react as the writer wanted you to react when he made the conscious choice to post A LIE.Originally posted by Greg B
"A 51-year-old Ohio woman was sentenced Friday to 60 days in jail for putting up anti-Bush posters"
she was not sentenced to 60 days in jail for putting up bush posters. even the most biased idiot would have to question this since there are no laws outlawing the posting of posters. but you didn't. you're right. you're a genius.Comment
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she was not arrested for putting up posters. she was not sentenced to 60 days in jail for putting up posters. i dont have to prove anything to discredit the article other than to simply know what crime(s) she was charged with and what she went to trial for.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
what is this now for you? strike 3? 4? 5? are you still here?Last edited by Pleasurepays; 06-03-2006, 08:20 PM.Comment
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lol.,.. you cracked the code genius... you expose the story for what it was.. nothing more than a lie and disinformation from a renegade journalist... lmaoOriginally posted by Pleasurepays
"A 51-year-old Ohio woman was sentenced Friday to 60 days in jail as a result of putting up anti-Bush posters"
better?Comment
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/torture/torture.htmlOriginally posted by xxxdesign-net
Police brutality is a myth.Comment
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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
where do I say that she was arrested for putting posters? I said she was BRUTALISED for putting up posters...
only in your mind... you're winninggg!!!! lolOriginally posted by PleasurepaysComment
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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
wow. again... you don't go to jail for posting posters.
the prosecutor did not think "hey, we finally got a brilliant poster posting case to prosecute" ...
the judge did not think "hmm.... what would be the best way to fuck away a few days of the courts time... how about a case about posting posters"
... and the police were not thinking "lets arrest her for posting posters. even though we are required to arrest her and charge her for a crime and no such crime exists... lets do it just for fun and see how our commander, the prosecutor and the courts find it funny"
where is the ACLU when they are REALLY needed?
at first i thought you were just blinding by your partisan hate. now i think its fairly clear that you should have been held back a few grades.Comment
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Its not clogging up. The only thing being clogged up is these forums with the utter garbage you are your ilk force on us everyday.Originally posted by WebbyQuit clogging this thread up with utter garbage 
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ok. so... i still don't care. i was commenting on the thread title and the idiocy of the bizarre assumptions and conspiracy theories which are not supported by fact. the simple fact is that she went to jail for attacking 2 cops. you'll have to live with it.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
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arguing with who here? Still stuck on that "she didnt get jailed for putting up posters?" Did I ever say the contrary.. hope you didnt spend too much time writing that post.. lol As well as the clever zinger at the end...Originally posted by PleasurepaysComment
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Originally posted by Greg B I know it's a myth.
That's why a friend was thrown out of jail one morning without any charges and with every joint in his spine bruised and inflamed.
Equally... that's why a lawdog I know had to discretely check out the standards in a certain sheriff's area where an officer was "giving a traffic ticket" and the recepient drowned - but after bullets hit his car. Even worse - the cause of death was drowning and they had to exhume the body to extract the bullets as evidence
Nothing is a surprise - and speculation over some woman and her posters don't really mean a lot. She and the officers know exactly what happened.
Fortunately most lawdogs are reasonably honest and fair.Last edited by Webby; 06-03-2006, 08:35 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I live in a neighboring city, I read this article in the local news paper today and it's more to it than what I have read here. I didn't read this entire post but basically this woman was arrested for placing anti Bush posters around town which violates a city ordinance. She was found guilty.
Prior to going to court for sentencing the judge gave her fair warning to apologize to the police officers. His words were "prepare to apologize or bring your tooth brush".
During her appearance she was very disrespectful of the court. She defiantly wore an anti Bush and anti administration t-shirt, she was accompanied by a group of supporters who also wore these shirts. The judge recessed court and instructed her to return wearing proper attire. Still, she returned wearing the anti Bush shirt, this time the judge ignored it.
During the proceedings she stated "if you think I'm going to applogize...forget about it". Which sealed her fate.
That's how it went down. She could have avoided jail if she had kept her mouth shut.ICQ: 150-803-430
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Yet another valuable contribution to the thread. Why are you still here? Or, better still, why are you even breathing?Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetIts not clogging up. The only thing being clogged up is these forums with the utter garbage you are your ilk force on us everyday.
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Originally posted by NTSS
1.. if she was brutalised by the cops.. why would she apologize?
2... Funny that you said no words about the judge...
"If you are going to insist that crossing borders illegally is a crime which cannot be tolerated, how about George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice (and yes, Colin Powell) and the rest of that gang, with their highly illegal, and violent, 'crossing of the border'-into Iraq, among other places?!"
McGinty then said this was proof of her delusion!
The judge sent her on the prison psych ward and put her on suicide watch... without any reasons... Clearly a tactic to discredit her.. Nothing wrong with that right?Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 06-03-2006, 08:43 PM.Comment
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