Woman Gets 60 Days In Jail For Anti-Bush Posters.

I remember when America was free.

When was that? My memory is getting fuZzy .....


**I don't know if this is a true story

She was actually put away for assaulting the police that arrested her.

Bush just cut some domestic defense budgets recently - there was a shortage of bullets.

Carol Fisher, a longtime peace activist and a volunteer at the local communist bookstore Revolution Books, has been found guilty. The 53-year-old, 5-foot-4, 130-pounder will be sentenced June 2 for the felonious assault of two Cleveland Heights police officers. But Fisher's attorney, Terry Gilbert, says a number of issues in the trial will come up when the decision is appealed.

http://www.freetimes.com/modules.php...ticle&sid=3370

Too many pinkos in america. :-/

Police lie.

Thats something I know bwtter than anyone - trust me.

but the headline isnt strickly 'the truth' either is it?

Actually last time I checked, police officers do shoot at people that are about to assault them. (I would too)

Assult not posters you fickin morons..

I cant find anything about this on real news sites. Now Im the first to judge W but this one is fishy.

if you read the rest of the article, it looks like the woman was arrested for posting signs on other people's property without their permission and was being a nuisance. I know the area they're referring to and it's a pretty liberal environment, she must've been a total whacko to get arrested over this.

In this case I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with the content of her posters

edit: just read "assault of two Cleveland Heights police officers" after posting. I knew there was more to this...

Me neither.

Ugly....

oh surreee

but it makes you think, how much physical damage can a 51 year old woman do? If I'd be the cop I'd just slap her really hard so she'd fall on the ground and tell her to get back in the kitchen... I feel kind of bad for the cops that are going to have to deal with her for the next 60 days.

More assumptions.

Your edit is correct in that the charge is one of assault - not posting shit on walls athough that obvious caught the attention of police officers.

Here's a quote from her lawyer... tho it's only his version, doubt he is going to lie about the court procedure..

It don't take a brain to see the officers had no ability to manage this scenario - they clearly have no clue of "people management". They are dealing with a 51 year old woman supposedly 5'4" in height - gimme a break.

This is the trash that makes a mockery of the justice system in the US - listen hard to any international jurist and they just "smile politely" when it comes to this bullshit. (Flip side is there are plenty good judges - the bullshit lets them down.)

Ya Im sure it was allllll the cops fault. lmao you guys make me laugh.

Expected your sick trash You ain't got a clue about anything - are unable to contribute *any* comment to any post, so why the fuck are you here?

Quit writing crap that nobody ever said - your assumptions are meaningless.

I don't know where you live, but in the US police officers deal with cunts like this chick every day and this is what they do, they arrest people for being very belligerent and uncooperative (watch COPS it's on fox). When it turns from 'uncooperative' to 'assault' they will have to make that arrest no questions asked. They aren't nice, I'll give you that and they weren't going to give any special attention to this lady, she had to file in the system the same as everyone else did before her. Plus I don't think it's a minor misdemeanor to assault a police officer (I might be wrong). No wonder the judge said it was irrelevant.

*cough*

Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit.

"But when they asked for the ID she didn't have, then grabbed her by the sleeve when she turned to pull down the illegal posters, the situation deteriorated to the point that two peace officers were holding the frightened woman on the sidewalk"

someone has to fuck up pretty bad to get arrested in that area. getting hysterical enough to require two cops to pin one down would probably do it though.

I'm not saying a 60 day jail sentence over this is right either btw. she sounds unbalanced and knowing the area, she probably is. there's a fair amount of wanna-be and ex-hippies in that area with fanatical attitudes

Its Ohio, what did you expect?

I live where law enforcement know how to behave.

Quit assuming people are "cunts" and "chicks" - you don't no anything about them. If a 51 year old banner-hanger is a police problem - shit, you need to see some real problems

I am also familiar with US law enforcement folks who do happen to have a clue on "people management" without the need for guidance from Fox.

Care to speculate as to why law enforcement ever approached her in the first instance?

i understand its real trendy (and painfully unoriginal) to keep bashing bush into the ground in spite of the obvious fact that its widely agreed that he is an idiot... but i feel its appropriate to point out that she was arrested for two counts of assualting an officer... not for "putting up anti-bush posters"

sorry for the much needed reality check.

a reasonably intelligent person, not blinded by an agenda might have been a little curious to see what she was actually charged for.

I don't know about you, but if two cops come up to me and try to talk to me, I don't turn around and start pulling down "the illegal posters" (I sense a bit of bias in this news source). I'll rather turn to the officers and ask them what the problem is (in the nicest way).

See, this is what I hate: When liberals want to express their opinion they want everyone to hear it including people that don't give a flying fuck and just want to arrest you. When I go 120mph on the highway I want everyone to see how much of an ass I am, but when I get pulled over I act like the nicest guy and don't get a ticket and still get back on and do 120mph. This lady should learn to be nice to officers when they are around and when they are gone post them up the liberal bullshit for people to later pull down and use as toilet paper. (even though I don't agree with the liberal bullshit, it's just a cry for attention for a dead political party)

Maybe these people should be kept in jail so we don't have to deal with so many illogical pinkos.

because it's very clean area where they don't tolerate large banners of any kind being posted. at least I've never seen any down there

LMAO. I love your spelling.

Read and comprehend you nancy little liberal twit. Go fuck your blow up Al Gore doll, and dream about Hillary being president.

Well aparrently she was tresspassing and causing a nuisence. Then later she assaulted a police officer. So yes, it's a "police problem". She needs to go to Florida and tresspass.

So what you are insinuating is that "COPS" holds liberal bias? Are you fucking retarded?

Tresspassing/Causing a nuisence. I am sure the cops didn't just happen to stoll by to see this woman putting up posters. Some guy that had shit posted on his house got pissed and called the cops. But I am entirely speculating. What would be your reasoning the cops got there? You will have to admit, it's way more likely that some guy got pissed and called the cops (therefore it was a nuisence) then any other reason that you can present to us.

Yes cause I dont know how to spell Fuckin. I own the domain www.thatsfuckinhot.com you FUCKING MORON! Say Fickin. Its a way to spell it to note a certain pronunciation of the word. You are a retard.

If two police officers come up to me and they are perfectly normal - they get treated with the respect they deserve. Otherwise they get told very firmly, but nicely at first, to behave - otherwise it's a "Fuck off" - same as you would do with anyone. It is really unknown as to whether the lady was polite or otherwise - so all speculation.

Hear we go again with the usual crap - who said anyone was a liberal, conservative or fucking communist? I really don't give a shit what people are. Tho this is obviously a severe US disease - to the level it actually divides the country - absurd!

Sure.. agree 100% that if ya do silly shit that is a violation of some law - you have the guts to admit it and not piss off law people just trying to do their job.

You don't know anything about the "attitude" of this lady with the officers - you are speculating and assuming again. And.. once again,... why you keep talking about liberals? Does that really matter so much to you? The effect is the same at core level if she was posting ads for peanuts - it's either against the law or it's not.

No person "should be kept in jail" just because you think so - that's why there is an alleged justice system. Who the fuck are you to decide?

I am sorry, I just read the article. The reason the cops were there is because she was posting shit on light poles and the officers pointed out to her it was against local law. $100 fine she should of paid, instead she assaulted the police officers and now faces 36months in jail (which she probably won't get because we have a soft heart for dumbfucks like this :-/)

Almost everything you just posted is total speculation.

You clearly have another agenda and totally blinded over "something"

Oh my god ... if ONLY!

I would LOVE if Hillary would run for the Presidency.

It's a win/win! If she loses the election, good -- Hillary isn't President. If she WINS, good -- she'll get impeached in a little while, and no one will vote another tree-hugger in for the "standard" few cycles it usually takes for people to forget how inept Liberals are in the White House.

CLEVELAND _ Cleveland Heights police officer Daniel E. Downing spoke publicly for the first time this week about his arrest of poltical activist Carol Fisher earlier this year.

Downing was the state's first witness in Fisher's criminal trial, which began Tuesday morning.

Fisher, 53, was indicted in February on two felony counts of assault on a police officer following an incident around 3 p.m. Jan. 28 on Lee Road in Cleveland Heights.

The jury trial was expected to wrap up today or Friday in Judge Timothy J. McGinty's courtroom at the Justice Center downtown.

If convicted, Fisher, a former Heights resident now living Cleveland, faces upwards of 2 to 8 years in prison for each count and total fines of as much as $40,000.

Despite this, Fisher and her attorneys Terry Gilbert and Daniel Shields refused to plea to a lesser offense, opting to let the jury decide her fate.

Cuyahoga County assistant prosecuting attorneys Jim Hofelich and Colleen Reali represented the state at trial, with Cleveland Heights police Det. Earnest Williams attending.

The prosecution had offered Fisher the chance to plead guilty to resisting arrest, a second degree misdemeanor.

The deal would require her to make a formal apology to the police officers, accept liability and pay the costs related to the arrest and officers' medical treatment.

I was assaulted myself, she said Monday, insulted by the deal. My attorneys are getting a lot of pressure to make the deal. They're afraid I'll go to jail.

Asked how she felt just before the trial started Tuesday, Fisher said, Determined.

Alleged victims


Downing was one of Fisher's alleged victims along with fellow officer Michael B. Frinzl. They arrested Fisher for illegally posting flyers on utility poles that sunny and mild winter afternoon.

Downing said this was the first time in a dozen such cases that he had ever had to arrest someone for posting fliers.

In his testimony, Downing characterized Fisher as non-compliant when he asked her for identification and told her to remove green Xerox copies of a Bush Step Down poster advertizing upcoming political protest rallies.

Downing told the jury Fisher resisted arrest and became combative and violent. He said she swung her arms at him, knocking his hat to the ground and then pushed him.

This prompted him to put her in a bearhug, hold her against a storefront window and ask a bystander to call 9-1-1 for assistance.

Frinzl and Downing then grabbed Fisher's coat and pulled her to the ground as they tried to pull her clasped arms apart and handcuff her.

She was later placed in leg shackles and seated on a park bench before she was asked to be taken to University Hospitals for treatment. There she was handcuffed to a bed and guarded by officers and hospital security. She was also given a psychological examination.

Downing, who later that day sought medical treatment himself with Frinzl, showed the jurors scars from where Fisher had plunged her nails into the webbing of his left hand and told them about a bite wound between his neck and shoulder.

He said Fisher had turned to bite him during the struggle, sinking her teeth into the shoulder strap on his body armor vest and shaking her head back and forth like a dog on a chew toy.

Innocent until proven guilty


Fisher has mainatined her innocence since the day of the incident, claiming she only responded to the officer's advances in self-defense.

The arrest left Fisher, a cancer survivor, with a bloody mouth and brusies all over her body.

Gilbert and Shields had filed a motion Friday to dismiss the indictment against her on grounds of improper arrest. Gilbert said the arresting officer did not follow proper procedure before taking Fisher into custody.

This is an illegal arrest. This indictment should be dismissed, he told McGinty, who denied his request Monday.

Fisher said about 50 supporters attended a rally for her and in support of World Can't Wait: Drive the Bush Regime Out on Saturday afternoon at the CoventrYard mini-park at the corner of Coventry Road and Euclid Heights Boulevard in Cleveland Heights.

She said there were no police in sight and it was a peaceful event.

I really appreciate all the effort they've put into this, Fisher said about her lawyers taking on her case pro bono.

Naughty naughty!

LOL If its not on CNN or an ABC affiliate website it must be bull..?

How about this one?
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/

good job on picking out such an independant news sorce such as indymedia

http://www.google.com/search?q=indym...es&sa=N&tab=iw

Ready to admit you were wrong yet webby? Nah Libs never admit when they are wrong, they just try and spin it around. The poowice rrr meanies.. wahhh wahhh wahhh.

Sounds like a reasonable assessment of parts of both sides of the story The Truth Hurts.

Assume both sides will take whatever action they see fit to resolve it now.

Indymedia? LMFAO!! Are you kidding?

Yeah, see cops will get pissed here in the US if you tell them to fuck off, they are there to keep people like you from getting shot by putting the criminals in jail, you should be thankful that their risk their life for yours. They won't fuck off, they are there for a reason: It's their job to enforce the law and if you post shit on light poles it's a $100 fine (which I am sure she could of avoided by just telling them she wouldn't do it again). If you don't like your fine and assault the police officers it's (a possible) 36 months in jail. It's how shit works.

You told me to speculate dumbass, see:
God.

Here's where you can just stop reading -- she wasn't arrested for "illegally posting flyers." She was arrested because, like most big-mouth Liberal jerkoffs, she has little respect for the law, and assaulted the officers on the scene. Trying to say she was arrested for anything other than this just shows either abject stupidity or a complete bias. Either way, it's just white noise.

It's funny -- when a moron is accused of something, the police lie. When a Republican is accused of something, they're outright guilty.

Yawn!

Oh btw.. nobody talked about the facist judge sending her in the psych unit because she is anti-Bush and ofcourse, must be out of her mind!!

And that piece of shit even put her on suicide watch...

As I asked before - why the fuck are you here sicko?

And.. for your diseased brain - I'm neither a liberal, conservatve or any of your other bullshit.

Quit clogging the board up with your spewage one-liners.