MojoHost Datacenter Tours at Internext!

Sounds definitely interesting, let me check if it doesn't collide with anything and I would be in!

if there will be hookers in the limo, i'm in....

seen one data center, seen them all....

i'll stay in the car and keep the hookers busy while you run the tours...

btw.. please have drink umbrellas and plenty of zima...

This is a very cool tour. Went last year.

Correction to my time, it was 11:30AM on the 8th not PM, that would be drinking time in my hospitality suite. LOL

Brad

P.S. - Please RSVP to my email, posts in this thread don't count in the real world!

Love to go at 3 brad

You'll have to BYOH but there's always room for those in the limo, just like for ice cream in the tummy.

As for the foo-foo drinks, everyone knows thats how I roll so you can always expect drink umbrellas in my presence

As to seeing one datacenter seen them all, I'll give you $100 if you still think that after the tour.

Cheers,

Brad

I took this tour last year and it is fucking awesome. Highly recommended. :D

Mark

That place is sick, i've worked in the hosting biz for 3 years and have been in all the datacenters in nyc and nj. This place is just next level. Just seeing it from the highway is amazing.

Although i'm not a Mojo customer, I'm with another hosting provider that is located within the same building, and I must admit... the service has been absolutely top notch. This building is amazing and the service is the absolute best I have ever experienced...

Go with Mojo or anyone else that has servers in this building.

It's all about relationships - nice service Brad

The building is very nice as I have visited it several times, however that has Nothing todo with the quality or service you get from a host that has space there. Mojo would be a good host wherever they were located the same as anyother good host is good wherever they are located..

Hi Brad -

Sounds great! I would love a tour. Please count me in.

I'd hit it, 2x's!

I wish I were attending, I wanna rub my new servers all sexy like.

I thought the same until I took the tour last year.

Awesome Mark, I'll contact you on Monday.



Brad

Hey Brad, just found out I am heading down on Sat. I may be able to make the Sat tour!

Awesome! Can't wait to see you Paul

Brad

Wish I could see this!
I am sitting Florida out this year.
Several Family things going on, and just had bulldog puppies.

Thanks for the awesome hosting!!!!

Did yous just say "ice cream in the tummy"?

maybe its me but dats kinda creepy

"There's always room for ice cream" - that ain't creepy, it's true!

Brad

Congratulations to whoever came up with this plan. It is fantastic marketing.

Last time I went to Internext it was a waste of time. Too bad this tour wasn't available. It brings the geek out in me.

Um..... so if you say moved Mojo to the same location Dreamhost is at... you seriously think you'll get the same ping times and uptime availability and routing that you can when your in the NAP of the Americas?

I'm not talking about Customer Service, i'm talking about Quality of Service and there is a difference and trust me, i've moved hosting providers way too many times to be able to actually tell the difference.

The building matters - it was build for one purpose and it serves that purpose well.

I'll send you an email today or tomorrow Brad. The woman and I would love the tour.

I Only haz my Kat and Alcaida passporte... can I come?

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great tours

What are the forms of transpo?

I've had a tour last year and it's truelly amazing! Thanks Brad, you surely know how to provide your guests with a good time too

That would be great, I'll be looking for that email!!!

If you ever make it down to South East Florida just let me know, I'll give you a tour anytime.

I believe they're 22+- person Escalades.


Brad

Thank you so much it was great to have you out and I always feel lucky when I'm surrounded by awesome people.

Brad

Brad, I will join, we also need to sit down to see whats happening ;)

K thanks, will have to pass this time.

The physical building itself has little to do with the service you get from a host that resides in the building. Ping times, uptimes ect... have nothing to do with the building they are in, it is the carriers, their infrastructure and the hosts infrastructure that matters. If mojo had good providers and all good infrastructure they would be a great host no matter what the building looks like just like if they had crappy providers and shitty infrastructure themselves they would suck even if the phyisical building was beautiful. The point is that Mojo is a good host period and it has nothing todo with the building itself.

I want to go visit my servers.

Possibly pick up my Harddrive while I'm at it!

Brad I am going to charge you next year....... bahahahahahahhahahaa. Actually if I have time I wouldnt mind a tour - how long are you taking people away?

After Shock Media, sorry I can't get you out this time around. Maybe next.

Anthony yeah you should come and pet your new servers and pick up that hard drive while you're at it

Hiya Chris! The round trip time from the lobby of the Westin is around 2-2.5 hours. It would be awesome if you came out!

Brad

Hi Mike,

Let's chat tomorrow and plan for that tour and meeting with support

Brad

Hi guys,

I thought it might be helpful if I chimed in here. You are both saying a lot of the same thing but it doesn't appear that you're finding common ground. My opinion is that you can have good hosts at bad datacenters and bad host at good datacenters, basically. The limiting factor is that a good host at a bad or not top quality datacenter will always have some limitations and risk factors that hosts at a premium datacenter and location don't have to worry about. In other words, at a B or C grade datacenter a host can only control so much and potentially be "so good".

Things that I believe are important and create tangible differences are:

- Properly managed environmentals such as cooling and humity control. Appropriately designed and implemented is important, just because a datacenter has a raised floor and multiple cooling units doesn't make it top shelf. Having redundancies in things like the total amount of available cooling, redundancy with water chillers and proper floor design to prevent 'hot spots' is long term extremely important.

- The amount of dark fiber at a location, path diversity leaving that site and total number of transit (bandwidth) and transport (OCx and wavelengths) available. Some datacenters are much less desirable due to the available network infrastructure. Small, even medium sized datacenters often have a limited carrier roster of 5-10 carriers and sometimes only have one or two of those companies owning the fiber assets. Sometimes sites have two fiber exits but they end up at the street on the same physical path which is ultimately a risk for fiber cut.

- Power infrastructure... Huge subject! Some sites have connections to multiple power grids while most only connect to one. Some sites have only one generator and a small capacity for diesel fuel. This is a risk if there is a failure with the primary generator or in a blackout situation if the site does not get priority refueling and can only run for 24-48 hours on the diesel they have in storage. Many sites do not have redundancy in their UPS or battery systems or maintain them properly. Sites with UPS that rely on batteries need to do a complete replacement every 10 or so years because they become a degraded risk. Lastly, in a broad sense the attention to detail designing a complete power infrastructure and implementing it is extraordinarily important.

- Physical security. Proper security at a datacenter isn't just for show and tell, it's crucial. Datacenters are basically shared environments with space carved out for tenants in cages, cabinets or seperate suites. Cameras, access badges with RFid that track location, proper shipping and receiving, all of these things are important. Equipment can be lost, stolten, sabotaged. You would also be surprised how many datacenters are not staffed with security or operations personnel 24 hours daily.

- Infrastructure designed to protect against the elements and natural disasters. Most datacenters were not "ground up" design for todays needs. The bulk of datacenters out there are retrofitted office space or warehouse space that was repurposed. Most datacenters are not truly built to withstand extreme events such as flooding, tornados, hurricanes, extreme snow, high winds, earthquakes, etc. You would be surprised how many datacenters have windows. LOL


Bringing things full circle, basically here is what I am saying. You will find good hosts and bad hosts in every type of datacenter. The best hosts in lower tier datacenters are ultimately limited by the quality of the infrastructure available to them. Similarly, I've seen some horrible hosting in excellent datacenters - including the one I am in. We are in a fantastic site and are an awesome host but how others decide to design and implement their network infrastructure, support, server hardware and power distribution can make a huge difference. I've seen a few cages at the site we are in whose cabling is at best a "rat's nest". As a tenant of a datacenter you are essentially given a blank slate and charged with implementing your own space design and whole suite of service.

One could pick the best datacenter in the world but if they don't know how to run a world class hosting company then they will never be a great host. You can have dozens or more than a hundred carriers available (our site has 170+ carriers) but unless you choose to connect to them you cannot enjoy those benefits. Even if a host does connect to many good carriers if they don't manage their BGP well then they might not inherently choose great routes. The whole subject of design is large, you could connect to multiple carriers but unless you do your research in advance you could end up with no physical fiber path diversity leaving the site.




Brad

Brad,

You really know what you are talking about!!!!! Loved the tours you gave and it was sight to see. You inner geek will be walking around with a hard on for days!!

Amar

Wish I was gonna be down there for this... I am a big geek like that and would love to see the datacenter... Plus Brad is always kick ass to hang out with..

I've been in a dozen data centers across the US, and this one is NOTHING like the rest...

Too bad you can't make it to Florida, I hope to see you at another event soon buddy!

Why thank you, I thought the same thing when I was shopping to move the business from Michigan to somewhere east of the Mississippi.



Brad

Bump for the fast moving board

Brad

No BS, these are almost full! Please RSVP by email to me asap:

2 spots open for the 11:30 Friday
3 spots open for the 3:00 Friday
5 spots open for the 12:30 Saturday

All the best,

Brad

Bump for tours

Brad

Final update before I travel...

Friday's tours are basically full but Saturday still has a few spots. If you would like to attend any of these tours, I will attempt to create additional room for the Friday times. From this point out I would ask that interested attendees *quickly* send me an email to [email protected]. Starting Thursday evening, please phone me direct anytime on my cellular phone at 248-842-6900.

We look forward to seeing attendees tomorrow at the Mix & Meet and also at the GFY Warmup party that we are sponsoring.

Safe Travels!

Brad