I hear the same bull shit over and over again Blah Blah Blah! Get over it!!! Bitching about the leader of our country is not going to get rid of him. I just wonder how many of the people bitching about him actually voted....I did!
I hear the same bull shit over and over again Blah Blah Blah! Get over it!!! Bitching about the leader of our country is not going to get rid of him.
Ooooooooooooooooooh. So I should just sit by silent while he attempts to ban any possibility of my partner and myself getting recognition and protection of our relationship for our entire lifetime? In hopes that, if it is made into a constitutional amendment, it can be overturned in 50 or 70 or 100 years?
If the African Americans of this country had your attitude, they'd still be drinking out of shitty waterfountains, sitting on the back of the bus, and only have jobs that are deemed "suitable for n1ggers" by the white folk.
Speaking out about the wrongs of our government raises awareness, maybe forces some people to rethink their opinions, and is a catalyst for change.
If this doesn't work for him, maybe he'll try to appeal to his "conservative" base in the south by suggesting that getting rid of segregation was a bad thing, and that n1ggers shouldn't be allowed to use the same waterfountains and bathrooms as good decent white american families, and that n1ggers and jews shouldn't be allowed to corrupt our society by marrying our country's white women folk.
just because someone doesn't want to make gay marriage legal does not mean that they hate gays any more than the fact that just because someone doesn't want a gerbil up their ass means they hate gays.
You've not exactly proven yourself to be a pillar of intellectualism either, so I'd STFU if I were you.....
Listen cock receptical. Ive stated before I FULLY support Civil unions. Ive said Marriage should not be in the hands of the government. Only civil unions should. That solves the problem.
Too bad that thinking isn't more predominate on Capitol Hill
Marriage should be upto whatever Church a couple is married in. The government part of it should be a civil union. That fixors it all. It should of never been a government thing in the first place.
Unfortunately he'd have to stay there for it to mean anything
Who cares he can go home and know that just while they were in the UK it meant something. I would rather have 5 minutes of something than a life time of nothing.
Who cares he can go home and know that just while they were in the UK it meant something. I would rather have 5 minutes of something than a life time of nothing.
But that doesn't address the whole real issue of legal protections
Yes, he's fucked up just about every aspect of this country from the economy, to our civil liberties, to international relations, responses to natural disasters, immigration issues and border security, the list goes on and on and on and on.
He has some of the worst polling numbers in our country's history.
What's he going to do? Bring down gas prices? Cut spending to reduce the deficit? Come up with an exit strategy for Iraq? Stop warrentless wiretaps?
FUCK NO! He's going to start bashing the faggots again!
If this doesn't work for him, maybe he'll try to appeal to his "conservative" base in the south by suggesting that getting rid of segregation was a bad thing, and that n1ggers shouldn't be allowed to use the same waterfountains and bathrooms as good decent white american families, and that n1ggers and jews shouldn't be allowed to corrupt our society by marrying our country's white women folk.
Asshole.
nothing surprising or new about this idea, wait bush is trying to slide an anti-gay marriage ammendment through congress again instead of attacking the real issues that plague our country? no way...
such a jerk, sad but true. it cracks me up that even though there's really no chance for this vote to pass he still wastes the senate's time with it, just so he looks like he's doing something.
Marriage should be upto whatever Church a couple is married in. The government part of it should be a civil union. That fixors it all. It should of never been a government thing in the first place.
Exactly. Once a gay couple has legal protections they could have whatever ceremony they wanted wherever they wanted and call it anything they choose. The government should only be concerned that they file their joint tax return on time
Yeah but there's a lot of stupid mutha fuckas that like him and would vote for him again if they could....
first off, If theyt could need not be said, because they can. They can write it in, and that would cause a major issue.
The other thing is, are you so sure that he will give up the throne that easily? Think he might push for an amendment that will allow him to saty longer?
"The president firmly believes that marriage is an enduring and sacred institution between men and women and has supported measures to protect the sanctity of marriage," White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said.
I love the part 'enduring' when he has taken so many men and women from their partners.
The last time the senate debated the constitutional amendment was a day or so before bush let the assault weapons ban expire. I was impressed with senators Clinton and Schumer because they used their "debate" time to talk about the weapons ban instead of the amendment which was obviously going to fail.
1) i am pretty funny.
2) marriage is and always has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.
3) many people want to protect and rebuild what remains of traditional family values in a time when those values are eroding quickly.
4) gays were not happy with civil unions and having those rights... so its not about "rights" at all. its about forcing people to recognize a gay marriage and a normal marriage as the same thing. most don't and don't want to.
1. clearly up for debate
2. Well not really. First, the very same marriage vows that are spoken at wedding ceremonies were first spoken by Ruth to her Mother-in-Law. The vows were away of proclaiming their devotion to one another. Second, marriage was defined as many things such as one man and many women. Third, historically marriage was a legacy initiative and certainly not about love.
3. you should be more concerned about adulty, the high divorce rate, child abuse, dead beat parents, countless children living in foster homes or state guardianship...the list goes on and on
4. Actually there was only one state that have civil unions before gay marriage was legal in massachussetts... so i'd say we never had the chance to be happy with anything. Nonetheless, I can guarantee you that my 12-year relationship is just as important to me as any relationship or marriage between anyone on this board. Why should I be pigeonholed into a second-class citizenship? History has demonstrated when the majority are the ones that dictate what 'normal' it leads to many undesireable events like hate crimes and genocide. Our country was founded on the principles of defending the rights of the minority..why should gay marriage be any different?
I have to marry a chick to get the same benefits gays get under the Domestic Partners Rights and Responsibilities Act of 2003
Hve you read that act? There are provisions for heterosexual couples. Besides, my question was what rights are you being denied? If you get the same rights and benefits with a chick you aren't being denied... and nothing is stopping you from partnering with a man other than yourself.
so democrats basically have no spine or convictions and have little interest in doing whats right for the country, the law, the constitution and their constituents?
Finally you said something that's right. I'd agree with that statement, but I'd say MOST, not all. There are still two or three decent human beings in the democratic party.
first off, If theyt could need not be said, because they can. They can write it in, and that would cause a major issue.
The other thing is, are you so sure that he will give up the throne that easily? Think he might push for an amendment that will allow him to saty
longer?
If he thought he could win he probably would...So I guess he won't be doing that...
What equals a woman? A pussy? A TS has a pussy therefore a man can marry a TS. WRONG. At least my gay friends say. You can get a drivers license altered to say F for female if your are a TS or TV, just not married.
Given that fact there are workarounds maybe. Get license changed in a state that doesn't flag all info on the license itself and then get a marriage license in a different state. Of course that isn't right or fair and in the end prolly fucked up legally.
Now if your not in luv with a TS the only thing to do is wait for change I suspect. A big push now is going nowhere with Bush in office.
Oh joy, more homosexual anti Bush rhetoric.. Didn't we get rid of your kind already?
Rhetoric? You think people who vote and pay taxes insisting on being treated equally is rhetoric?
Do you really think it is right for a court to be able to award everything a person owns when they die to a family who turned their back on them when they found out they were gay rather than to their partner of 10, 20, 30 years? It happens often and is perfectly legal in a good part of the country.
IMHO, as long as their are "gay pride" parades showcasing behavior and people that belong in a circus freak show, there will be no shortage of those who want to distance themselves from any gay agenda... and a major lack of support of gays and gay issues.
its often like watching drug addicts complain that drugs are illegal.
If they want to ban gay marriage, they should also ban divorce. You know, to uphold the sancity of marriage and family values. To death do us part, right.
And to the post above. When someone does it at a sporting event it seems OK... The old double standard...
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If he thought he could win he probably would...So I guess he won't be doing that...
Right now it looks that way, but wait until it becomes illegal to criticize the government after the war with Iran and subsequent terrorist attacks start. Former CIA advisor under Reagan and Bush Sr. Ray McGovern said that it's inevitable that they'll attack Iran before the Nov elections. The propaganda is already in full swing and the carrier groups are on the way. Don't forget, as long as on TV they can make it seem like not everyone opposes him, they can say he won the election. There's no one actually monitoring our elections, we basically have to trust the party in power to tell us if they loose.
If they want to ban gay marriage, they should also ban divorce. You know, to uphold the sancity of marriage and family values. To death do us part, right.
And to the post above. When someone does it at a sporting event it seems OK... The old double standard...
Don't expect hateful bigots to consider or even comprehend logic. Seeing gays dressed up in costumes makes them feel strage so they think it should be illegal. People who think like that don't understand what a free country means and can't be reasoned with.
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