Would you promote OCCash if we were PPS?

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  • xxxjay
    Tube groupie.
    • Aug 2002
    • 13482

    #1

    Would you promote OCCash if we were PPS?

    If you are not promoting OCCash, if we offered a $25 on trials ($20 no console) change your mind?

    How do people feel about $35 on full joins?
    86
    It would make no difference - revshare is fine.
    0%
    32
    I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.
    0%
    23
    I would promote use the $35 on full joins.
    0%
    10
    $35 on full joins isn't a real PPS.
    0%
    21
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  • u-Bob
    there's no $$$ in porn
    • Jul 2005
    • 33063

    #2
    revshare is fine.

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    • cranki
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2005
      • 5162

      #3
      OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

      How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog...

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      • xxxjay
        Tube groupie.
        • Aug 2002
        • 13482

        #4
        Originally posted by cranki
        OC Cash does well for me on revshare...

        How was europe, jay? I'm looking forward for the antics on yer blog...
        Yeah, hopefully I can edit the rest of it tonight.
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        • bigdog
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6964

          #5
          i think you might have to raise it to at least $25 console free. The last program i remember to offer $20 per join was bangbrosonline when it first came out and it converted like hell.

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          • GTS Mark
            Vrume Mark
            • Jan 2001
            • 20912

            #6
            I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

            DH

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            • Tempest
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 10217

              #7
              Revshare is fine with me if it converts and retains.

              Didn't realize you had so many sites. Is it 50% minus fees or a true 50%. Frankly I'm getting tired of 50% sites that I put a bunch of work into and then are shit. Would prefer a flat 60%.

              The main thing I need is quality pic content for each episode and FPAs for each site. I'm so much more cynical these days given we're constantly promised all this and then you join up and it's half there and/or crap. Prevents me from signing up to a lot of sites as opposed to sticking with what I have.

              PPS would be nice. $25 nocon on $4.95 trial, $20 nocon on $1 trial, $35 con on $4.95 trial, $30 con on $1 trial would seem reasonable if the numbers worked for you.

              Sunnydollars pays out $25 nocon $1 trials though. I love those guys.

              Pimproll is also $25 nocon $1 trials and $30 nocon $4.99 trials.

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              • Barefootsies
                Choice is an Illusion
                • Feb 2005
                • 42635

                #8
                No.

                Should You Email Your Members?

                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                Enough Said.

                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                • breaker
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 652

                  #9
                  revshare is fine.
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                  • justsexxx
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 13723

                    #10
                    I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
                    I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.
                    Questions?

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                    • Rick Latona
                      The Best Ideas Start Here
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6037

                      #11
                      Jay,

                      Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?
                      Regards,

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                      • xxxjay
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13482

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rick Latona
                        Jay,

                        Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?
                        I'm sure I will be there sometime this summer...we have a lot of catching up to do...lol,
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                        • xxxjay
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13482

                          #13
                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                          I would promote if they had 25$ on trials.--->when not to much consoles yes
                          I would promote use the $35 on full joins.-->no, full join with my volume gets around 60-70%revshare. Then a 35USD on a 35USD monthly price is not really worth it.
                          Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

                          LOL
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                          • xxxjay
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                            I think you would pick up a ton of webmasters if you did.

                            DH
                            Yeah, that is what I was thinking. I'm kind of suprised and glad that this poll has been going like it has.

                            People will send us their traffic eventually.

                            Even Lenny2.
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                            • Screaming
                              I can change this!!!!!
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 18972

                              #15
                              pretty much I only send to pps

                              I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per

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                              • xxxjay
                                Tube groupie.
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13482

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Screaming
                                pretty much I only send to pps

                                I also only send to pps that offer atleast 30 per
                                You have to remember that if you are sending to a saturated $30 program and to a less saturated program that converts even 50% better with a $25 payout you will be doing a lot better.

                                1000 hits out at 1:1000 paying $30 = 30$
                                1000 hits out at 1:750 paying $25 = 42.50$
                                1000 hits out at 1:500 paying $25 = 50$

                                1000 his out at 1:316 = 79.11$
                                (see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...70&postcount=1)

                                Traffic guys need to start looking deeper at the numbers to see what their traffic is really worth. 1000 hits gone is 1000 hits gone. The whole being wowed by a $40 PPS is a trick to lure in newbie webmasters.

                                This isn't physics either, this is some 7th grade word problems.
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                                • SleazyDream
                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 41470

                                  #17
                                  i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.
                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                  • Mpegmaster
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 2300

                                    #18
                                    30$ PPS and i will be all over you guys within no time

                                    not that i don't like what i already make with you guys ;)

                                    OCCASH ROCKS
                                    Last edited by Mpegmaster; 05-30-2006, 08:09 PM.

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                                    • xxxjay
                                      Tube groupie.
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 13482

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                      i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.
                                      Yo dood...I hit you up but we lost eachother somehow...we want to buy some traffic.
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                                      • bdld
                                        $100,000
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 11452

                                        #20
                                        overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer

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                                        • Playa-Deak
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 1065

                                          #21
                                          Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great!
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                                          • xxxjay
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 13482

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bdld
                                            overall im at about 15/join on revshare, so i'd go for $20 PPS console free. would be even better if it was $20PPS CS on $1 trial joins like some other programs offer
                                            We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

                                            Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.
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                                            • xxxjay
                                              Tube groupie.
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 13482

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Playa-Deak
                                              Actually, since I promote the Ebony Niche. Personally, I like OCCash being revshare... So when other sponsors not selling I always know OC is being built with the revshare (recurs). It's like guaranteed money with revshare, maybe the whale webmasters think different but from my perspective. I like revshare with OC... Sell great!
                                              Thanks dood. How are the galleries treating you?
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                                              • justsexxx
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 13723

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                Why are you flying a "- 50% per signup and 50% per renewal" program's banner in your sig?

                                                LOL

                                                Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

                                                Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion
                                                Questions?

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                                                • xxxjay
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 13482

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                  Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

                                                  Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion
                                                  Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully.
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                                                  • justsexxx
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 13723

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                    Whoops, my bad...I should have read you post more carefully.
                                                    No problem Good luck with your decission.
                                                    Questions?

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                                                    • xxxjay
                                                      Tube groupie.
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 13482

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                      Not sure why that is so funny. Like I said, I prefer revshare over a 35PPS for an active membership. Also the program in my signature starts at 50%, and goes up. When you send more signups, you will get a higher %. Also it's a clean payout. So when the join price is 35USD a month, the payout starts at 17,50USD...

                                                      Sorry for answering your thread with my honest opinion
                                                      Yeah, I saw that. We pay much higher percentages to our "whales" as well.
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                                                      • djroof
                                                        JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 25508

                                                        #28
                                                        voted ;)

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                                                        • 2HousePlague
                                                          CURATOR
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 14572

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                          Jay,

                                                          Are you coming to Atlanta any time soon?
                                                          Is this THE Rick Latona --



                                                          2hp
                                                          tada!

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                                                          • xxxjay
                                                            Tube groupie.
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 13482

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by djroof
                                                            voted ;)
                                                            Thanks, anyone else that would like to put their 2 cents in, please feel free to do so. This is market research.
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                                                            • bigdog
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 6964

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                              We refuse to do the totally limited trials, you get full accces to the site you joined for 2 days for $4.95 -- the rest of the network is only available to full members....if you get 50% with a limited trials, you also piss off the other half (50%) - I'd rather have 100% of people not afraid to join our sites and the 35% trial to full we have now.

                                                              Could be part of the reson our ratios are so good.
                                                              I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people

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                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 13482

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                I hear there are people doing better then 50% so they are pissing off even more people
                                                                50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.
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                                                                • D-Money
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 9716

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                  i'm like a hooker - i want cash upfront before the gallery even goes on my site.
                                                                  That's more like a pimp...

                                                                  Still Ballin'

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                                                                  • bigdog
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 6964

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                    50% is average on limited vs 18% with full. We are at 34% and are happy and we think our surfers are too.
                                                                    who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?

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                                                                    • Mikey_219Inc
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 1876

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i would promote but in my country you go to prison if you make violence against dog
                                                                      Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                      • minimouse
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                        • 1493

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I would if I had $25 per trial.
                                                                        Dead

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                                                                        • Troels
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 1035

                                                                          #37
                                                                          It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
                                                                          I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

                                                                          You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
                                                                          People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

                                                                          By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.
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                                                                          • xxxjay
                                                                            Tube groupie.
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 13482

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                            who the hell is doing 18% these days that is lousy?
                                                                            Almost everyone that doesn't use some kind of limited trial.
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                                                                            • xxxjay
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                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 13482

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Troels

                                                                              By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.
                                                                              That is probably true.
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                                                                              • V_RocKs
                                                                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                • 32451

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Troels
                                                                                It would make no difference - revshare is fine. 30 37.97%
                                                                                I would promote if they had 25$ on trials. 21

                                                                                You've got to ask yourself which group of people send more signups.
                                                                                People who don't care about revshare/pps, or pps followers..

                                                                                By offering pps on trials you will get more big webmasters.

                                                                                Bing Bing Bing

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