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  • Ash1
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2004
    • 3062

    #1

    whats differnece between natslite and NATS

    cant find this faq or info section anywhere on their site...anyone with a link or can tell teh basic diff

    why wouldnt i use natslite if so much cheaper
  • AnniKN
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2008
    • 1682

    #2
    I think it's just a type of membership - the program is the same, just less joins supported etc.

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    • TMM_John
      Confirmed User
      • May 2004
      • 6664

      #3
      They aren't different products

      It is only different "invoicing tiers". Our price is based on the number of new signups per month. The NATSlite level covers up to 300 new joins/mo for $150/mo. NATSplus is for up to 750 new joins/mo at $350/mo. And NATS is for above 750 new joins/mo at $650/mo. There is a possibility of a couple tiers being added with the release of NATS v4.

      None of the levels will stop taking signups at their limit. If you go over it you will simply be moved up to the next tier on your next invoice.

      The software is exactly the same.


      Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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      • Ash1
        So Fucking Banned
        • Sep 2004
        • 3062

        #4
        Originally posted by PBucksJohn
        They aren't different products

        It is only different "invoicing tiers". Our price is based on the number of new signups per month. The NATSlite level covers up to 300 new joins/mo for $150/mo. NATSplus is for up to 750 new joins/mo at $350/mo. And NATS is for above 750 new joins/mo at $650/mo. There is a possibility of a couple tiers being added with the release of NATS v4.

        None of the levels will stop taking signups at their limit. If you go over it you will simply be moved up to the next tier on your next invoice.

        The software is exactly the same.

        sounds good but dont the install and training fees differ for the different packages?

        and what do u mean by
        It is only different "invoicing tiers".

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        • TMM_John
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 6664

          #5
          Originally posted by Ash1
          sounds good but dont the install and training fees differ for the different packages?

          and what do u mean by
          It is only different "invoicing tiers".
          Different pricing tiers is maybe a better way to explain it. Same product, just different costs for different sales volumes.

          The normal upfront costs are $500 for install and $1000 for support & training.

          You also get 30 days for setup and you pay your first month's lease when signing up. So you will not get another bill for 60+ days.

          There is also a bit of room to work with you on the upfront fees if you are interested and that is something that is holding you back.


          Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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          • tical
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 6504

            #6
            what if you don't need support & training? just the $500 install?
            112.020.756

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            • TMM_John
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 6664

              #7
              Originally posted by tical
              what if you don't need support & training? just the $500 install?
              Both costs are required.


              Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #8
                One of them you can see a doctor and get rid of it... the other... well, you're stuck with it for life. Kind of like herpes, but different.

                Just get it.

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                • Ash1
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 3062

                  #9
                  does nats work good with ECOMMERCE product sites?

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                  • tblocker
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 254

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                    Both costs are required.


                    I'm about to launch a program and was hoping to be able to skip at least the trainning and support fee ... I'm a tech guy ( Worked on the security field, coded my own members area frontend which includes all comercial solutions features, etc ) and always liked digging every product/soft i use, learn it the hard way which off course is the best way to learn it good and dont get at a critical point depending on support ;)

                    But then that fee wont be able to be skipped ? that would actually back me up It has no sense for me to pay for something i'm not going to be using

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                    • tblocker
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 254

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tblocker


                      I'm about to launch a program and was hoping to be able to skip at least the trainning and support fee ... I'm a tech guy ( Worked on the security field, coded my own members area frontend which includes all comercial solutions features, etc ) and always liked digging every product/soft i use, learn it the hard way which off course is the best way to learn it good and dont get at a critical point depending on support ;)

                      But then that fee wont be able to be skipped ? that would actually back me up It has no sense for me to pay for something i'm not going to be using
                      Ps: I think your product is kick ass! I like it very much as an affiliate and i think its one of the only products actively developed in the adult field that actually seems to be done by people that actually knows about soft engeneering and they are not just a bunch of coders without experience trying to make some extra bucks :P So i would love to have your great product in my affiliate program, i always thought it was going to be this way, but i insist, i dont like to pay for things that i dont intend to use ... at least give me the chance of skipping it and if i then require the trainning or support, i will pay for it ...

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                      • arial
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 4012

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tblocker
                        Ps: I think your product is kick ass! I like it very much as an affiliate and i think its one of the only products actively developed in the adult field that actually seems to be done by people that actually knows about soft engeneering and they are not just a bunch of coders without experience trying to make some extra bucks :P So i would love to have your great product in my affiliate program, i always thought it was going to be this way, but i insist, i dont like to pay for things that i dont intend to use ... at least give me the chance of skipping it and if i then require the trainning or support, i will pay for it ...
                        The support and training fee is also for them upgrading, fixing bugs, adding features, ect... as John said he'd work with you on upfront fees.

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                        • TMM_John
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2004
                          • 6664

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tblocker


                          I'm about to launch a program and was hoping to be able to skip at least the trainning and support fee ... I'm a tech guy ( Worked on the security field, coded my own members area frontend which includes all comercial solutions features, etc ) and always liked digging every product/soft i use, learn it the hard way which off course is the best way to learn it good and dont get at a critical point depending on support ;)

                          But then that fee wont be able to be skipped ? that would actually back me up It has no sense for me to pay for something i'm not going to be using
                          How about I waive the $1000 fee but you still get the training & full support?

                          The training REALLY helps everyone, both basic and advanced users as it is personal and focused on what you need. For example, if you understand how smarty templates work we will go in depth with you and show you some advanced features rather than explain to you the basics of how they work.

                          Support is of course needed because everyone, no matter how good they are, will run into issues with any product.

                          Contact me on ICQ, 5596373, AIM, JohnA1078, or albright/toomuchmedia/com We're always glad to work with people on costs as much as we can to get them going in the biz or taking that next step.


                          Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                          • TMM_John
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2004
                            • 6664

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tblocker
                            Ps: I think your product is kick ass! I like it very much as an affiliate and i think its one of the only products actively developed in the adult field that actually seems to be done by people that actually knows about soft engeneering and they are not just a bunch of coders without experience trying to make some extra bucks :P So i would love to have your great product in my affiliate program, i always thought it was going to be this way, but i insist, i dont like to pay for things that i dont intend to use ... at least give me the chance of skipping it and if i then require the trainning or support, i will pay for it ...
                            Thank you very much for that. That means a lot. We put a ton of effort into trying to produce and support a quality product that is constantly moving forward.

                            I think the issue with most coders who try to produce a product is that they don't realize the scope of the support that will be required. Once a product starts rolling it becomes 90% support. If you're a one or two man team, then you have to do all of the support yourselves and for most programmers that becomes very boring very quickly. Its tough for them to keep an interest in it after a while and the project fails. Of course, this isn't true for everyone, as some small operations and independent programmers do put out great products. Just a general observation.


                            Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                            • TMM_John
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2004
                              • 6664

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ash1
                              does nats work good with ECOMMERCE product sites?
                              What is the URL of the sites you are referring to? I am not familiar with it off hand, but there are processing options that I am not familiar with myself so it is still a possibility.

                              Thanks!


                              Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                              • Jai
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2005
                                • 6915

                                #16
                                nats seems good..hit me on icq
                                Last edited by Jai; 07-26-2008, 08:05 AM.

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                                • Ash1
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 3062

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                  What is the URL of the sites you are referring to? I am not familiar with it off hand, but there are processing options that I am not familiar with myself so it is still a possibility.

                                  Thanks!

                                  http://www.arentwenaughty.com

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                                  • DWB
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 31779

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                    How about I waive the $1000 fee but you still get the training & full support?

                                    The training REALLY helps everyone, both basic and advanced users as it is personal and focused on what you need. For example, if you understand how smarty templates work we will go in depth with you and show you some advanced features rather than explain to you the basics of how they work.
                                    That is a great deal. You'd have to be a retard to pass on that.

                                    My partner was the one to get the training, don't remember why I was not around, but I kick myself in the ass for it every time I have to get inside of NATS and do something.

                                    To put point blank: YOU NEED THE TRAINING!!!

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                                    • Ryan St. Germain
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2006
                                      • 1269

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PBucksJohn

                                      Support is of course needed because everyone, no matter how good they are, will run into issues with any product.
                                      Speaking of; can you have them look into my situation (DarkCircusCash). They said that they were waiting for information from commercegate and Verotel to be able to do it, but it's been a long time and I'd really like to get this launched before Internext.

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                                      • TMM_John
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 6664

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DarkCircus
                                        Speaking of; can you have them look into my situation (DarkCircusCash). They said that they were waiting for information from commercegate and Verotel to be able to do it, but it's been a long time and I'd really like to get this launched before Internext.
                                        Send me the ticket # to albright/toomuchmedia/com and I'm more than happy to take a look.


                                        Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                        • TMM_John
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 6664

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ash1
                                          Sorry, I mean the processing solution you were wondering about.


                                          Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                          • Ash1
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Sep 2004
                                            • 3062

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                            Sorry, I mean the processing solution you were wondering about.
                                            processing soln? paypal is used for processing

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                                            • Ash1
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 3062

                                              #23
                                              bumpppppp

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                                              • TMM_John
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2004
                                                • 6664

                                                #24
                                                No, sorry, paypal is currently not integrated.


                                                Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                • Ash1
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 3062

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                                  No, sorry, paypal is currently not integrated.
                                                  what are some major processors u support?

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