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  • sortie
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2007
    • 7771
    #1

    Firefox: Do you love it? Not me.

    I don't like having to write code to make things work in firefox when it works so easily
    in IE.

    Make really cool code, then oops...gotta recode for firefox.
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    • arial
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      • Jul 2002
      • 4012
      #2
      Cross-browser code or bust

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        • videodoll
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          • Sep 2006
          • 196
          #3
          I use ie on my windows computer but on my linux computer I have to use Firefox. I can't stand it, it crashes constantly. I don't know if it is the version I have or what but it just closes down and I have to restart it. It's not a huge deal because it restores the session I was in but it is an annoyance. I prefer to use ie.

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            • sortie
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              • Mar 2007
              • 7771
              #4
              Originally posted by arial
              Cross-browser code or bust
              That is not possible for a lot of things.

              firefox is really easy for simple html but when you start embeding objects and doing other
              cool stuff the shit just fails without writing some off-the-wall wacky code for firefox.

              And the information about the problem is no where to be found.

              For me there is just no such thing as something didn't work in internet explorer, it's
              always firefox that needs it's special attention like a retarded child.

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                • sortie
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7771
                  #5
                  Originally posted by videodoll
                  I use ie on my windows computer but on my linux computer I have to use Firefox. I can't stand it, it crashes constantly. I don't know if it is the version I have or what but it just closes down and I have to restart it. It's not a huge deal because it restores the session I was in but it is an annoyance. I prefer to use ie.
                  Oh, I hear you.

                  Then listen to all the firefox lovers who swear by it and expect every website to provide
                  2 sets of coding just to support firefox.

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                    • Persius
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 11779
                      #6
                      firefox>ie

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                        • kmanrox
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                          • Oct 2001
                          • 29295
                          #7
                          you'd better get with the times kiddo or risk falling behind
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                            • Fetish Gimp
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                              • Feb 2005
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by sortie
                              Make sloppy code, then oops...gotta recode for firefox.
                              Edited for truth.
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                                • sortie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2007
                                  • 7771
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Fetish Gimp
                                  Edited for truth.
                                  Spoken by a true html expert dumbass that can't write a fucking line of action script in a flash movie to even have a clue about what this conversation is about.



                                  I'm the machanic telling you that you have a blown head gasket and your telling me to get fucked because you use good gas.


                                  idiot!

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                                    • Klen
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 32235
                                      #10
                                      Firefox pwn ie,especialy with latest version.For example firefox blocks sites which contain virus installs.First i though that is feature of some plugin which i have installed,but it seems that is default feature of firefox.I could go on and on why is firefox better,but that will take toolong time.

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                                        • beta-tester
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                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 22562
                                          #11
                                          firefox just rocks! It's Microsoft's fault why IE is shitty browser with weird standards....

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                                            • sortie
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                                              • Mar 2007
                                              • 7771
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                                              you'd better get with the times kiddo or risk falling behind
                                              Yeah I'm so far behind that I fucked up and invented tubecgi.

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                                                • PR_Sebas
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 2825
                                                  #13
                                                  sometimes code works in IE and not Firefox because when IE sees a problem it tries to correct it and if it does it shows up properly in IE when in actuality you have a problem in your code...

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                                                    • payd2purv
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2008
                                                      • 2727
                                                      #14
                                                      Yer doing it backwards noob...

                                                      Code for Firefox and tweak for Ie

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                                                        • sortie
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                          • 7771
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by beta-tester
                                                          firefox just rocks! It's Microsoft's fault why IE is shitty browser with weird standards....
                                                          Ok, then explain why firefox must be forced to download a plugin from older winamp
                                                          player so that it can resize a video properly.

                                                          If your video ever looks odd then switch to IE and watch it play just fine.

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                                                            • GrouchyAdmin
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                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                              • 12085
                                                              #16
                                                              Man, doing research and using templating is hard.

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                                                                • videodoll
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                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                  • 196
                                                                  #17
                                                                  My firefox crashes every 10 minutes. How does that "rock"?

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                                                                    • Twisted Dave
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                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                      • 3635
                                                                      #18
                                                                      You're wrong ... Firefox is the more standards compliant browser. If you get shit working in IE and neglect Firefox, you're writing bad code.

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                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 7771
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by videodoll
                                                                          My firefox crashes every 10 minutes. How does that "rock"?
                                                                          We are preaching to sheep here.

                                                                          They don't do any real programming. They code some html and get it to work and
                                                                          now they are gurus and everybody else is a noob.

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                                                                            • sortie
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                              • 7771
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                              Man, doing research and using templating is hard.
                                                                              My stuff works in firefox.

                                                                              I'm just saying that it's more work for programmers.

                                                                              More work is more work no matter how much work it is.

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                                                                                • sortie
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                  • 7771
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by NwSebas
                                                                                  sometimes code works in IE and not Firefox because when IE sees a problem it tries to correct it and if it does it shows up properly in IE when in actuality you have a problem in your code...
                                                                                  That is true; but that's not what I'm talking about.

                                                                                  The current version of firefox does not even resize a media player properly unless you force the surfer to download an old plugin that should have been thrown out years ago.

                                                                                  It doesn't matter how clean your code is, the plugin is the only way firefox can do it correctly.

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                                                                                    • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                      Now choke yourself!
                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                      • 12085
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                      My stuff works in firefox.

                                                                                      I'm just saying that it's more work for programmers.

                                                                                      More work is more work no matter how much work it is.
                                                                                      So, either choose not to support it, or stop bitching about the 'extra work', as you chose to support a close standard browser which once again runs under a single OS. How do you think StatsRemote feels these days about their venture into MSJVM? Do you want a cookie? They're quite delicious.

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                                                                                        • Fetish Gimp
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                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 1699
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                          Spoken by a true html expert dumbass that can't write a fucking line of action script in a flash movie to even have a clue about what this conversation is about.

                                                                                          I'm the machanic telling you that you have a blown head gasket and your telling me to get fucked because you use good gas.
                                                                                          idiot!
                                                                                          Oh I'm sorry.

                                                                                          I hadn't realized I was speaking with the Buddha of web programming, the Zeus of the Web, who is crying because the infidels do not understand the magnitude of his brilliance.

                                                                                          There there, one day everyone will realize that you're not a pathetic attention seeker but a misunderstood genius and everything will be alright. I can feel it in my bones.
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                                                                                            • severe
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2007
                                                                                              • 331
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              not a fan of firefox although i use it, mainly for firebug. ff3 crashes alot for me, they fixed the mem leak it seems which was around for YEARS. i dunno how anyone would consider that acceptable and tout it as great browser... nothing great about seeing up to a gig of ram being sucked up when u have 1 tab open.

                                                                                              standards are great, but they're worthless when they're not really standard anyway and wont. no matter how u slice it u still going to end up having to adjust for 1 browser over another.

                                                                                              i actually think ff3 crashes more than ie7 does now...
                                                                                              Last edited by severe; 07-14-2008, 10:05 AM.

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                                                                                                • payd2purv
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2008
                                                                                                  • 2727
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Sortie do you realize how stupid you sound?

                                                                                                  Watch the ego bro..

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                                                                                                    • sortie
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                                                      • 7771
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by severe
                                                                                                      not a fan of firefox although i use it, mainly for firebug. ff3 crashes alot for me, they fixed the mem leak it seems which was around for YEARS. i dunno how anyone would consider that acceptable and tout it as great browser... nothing great about seeing up to a gig of ram being sucked up when u have 1 tab open

                                                                                                      i actually think ff3 crashes more than ie7 does now...
                                                                                                      Firefox has "fans" and these fans are just sold on it no matter what.

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                                                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                                          • 7771
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by payd2purv
                                                                                                          Sortie do you realize how stupid you sound?

                                                                                                          Watch the ego bro..
                                                                                                          No.

                                                                                                          So please explain in great detail why firefox can't resize media player correctly without forcing the surfer to download the old plugin.

                                                                                                          If this means nothing to you (type="application/x-ms-wmp)
                                                                                                          then maybe you should hold off on calling me stupid.

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                                                                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                              • 32449
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              FF3 is the Christ.

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                                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                  Doin fine
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                  • 24984
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Firefox is w3c compliant, IE is not. [/end thread]

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                                                                                                                    • chelo - adultcopywriters
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                      • 775
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Media player is made by Microsoft, no news it won't work well on ANY other browser except IE. That is so Bill! =)

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                                                                                                                        • quantum-x
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Gotta say, I hate FF with a passion
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                                                                                                                            • sortie
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                                                                              • 7771
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                              Firefox is w3c compliant, IE is not. [/end thread]
                                                                                                                              Yep, but IE supports commercial objects that are beyond the scope of w3c.

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                                                                                                                                • bdld
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 11452
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  i need to try FF3, but i like my FF2. i'll wait til they force me to upgrade.

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                                                                                                                                    • xmas13
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      You are fired!
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                                                                                                                                        • crockett
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                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 76818
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                          Firefox is w3c compliant, IE is not. [/end thread]
                                                                                                                                          IE always works FF doesn't.. [/end thread]

                                                                                                                                          I for one don't even like using FF much less having to deal with the crap it screws up.
                                                                                                                                          Last edited by crockett; 07-14-2008, 12:59 PM.
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                                                                                                                                            • GrouchyAdmin
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                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 12085
                                                                                                                                              #36
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                                                                                                                                                • cykoe6
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                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 4499
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Personally I hate Firefox. I hate using it and coding for it. I only use for Tor and to check how my code looks. Otherwise I would never use it.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Violetta
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 28735
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I dont like FF and I HATE IE. Opera is the only one for me!
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                                                                                                                                                        • Kevsh
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                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Firefox is far from perfect but good lord, IE is the biggest piece of bloatware crap to come along since ... well, Windows. Every time I open IE (very rarely, thankfully) I cringe at how much worse it seems to be getting with each version.

                                                                                                                                                          As for coding, I don't code anything that needs tweaking for FF or IE or anything else. Keep compliant if you can. And for those of you who do write uber code and say from experience it's a pain, fine, I won't argue. But from a browsing POV, I have issues with FF sure, but the pros far, far outweigh the cons.
                                                                                                                                                          :2

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                                                                                                                                                            • MetaMan
                                                                                                                                                              I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 28682
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              you fucking idiots need to hire someone who knows wat they are doing, my code MAYBE has a single margin change for ie and ALL browsers, bunch of pussies here.

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                                                                                                                                                                • BSleazy
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 6721
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Dam I haven't used winamp in at least 5 years. Is that still around?
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                                                                                                                                                                    • peedy
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                      Firefox is w3c compliant, IE is not. [/end thread]
                                                                                                                                                                      amen brotha, whats even more fucked up is that MS is on the w3c board. lol
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Tjeezers
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fetish Gimp
                                                                                                                                                                          Oh I'm sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                          I hadn't realized I was speaking with the Buddha of web programming, the Zeus of the Web, who is crying because the infidels do not understand the magnitude of his brilliance.

                                                                                                                                                                          There there, one day everyone will realize that you're not a pathetic attention seeker but a misunderstood genius and everything will be alright. I can feel it in my bones.
                                                                                                                                                                          that is already known, that one day you speak about was months ago

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                                                                                                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 24984
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                                                                                                              Yep, but IE supports commercial objects that are beyond the scope of w3c.
                                                                                                                                                                              Supports anything I use. What commercial objects are you talking about?

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                              IE always works FF doesn't.. [/end thread]

                                                                                                                                                                              I for one don't even like using FF much less having to deal with the crap it screws up.
                                                                                                                                                                              I've never not had FF work with any site I've made. I have however had IE break up tables, and add extra spaces in between images in .css

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                                                                                                                                                                                • harvey
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  wow, and me thinking it was the other way... I mean, having to write COMPLIANT CROSS BROWSER CODE: checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Having to write it again so it works on non-compliant browsers (like IE): checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Having to write it YET AGAIN so it works on non-compliant browsers different versions (like IE6 and older and IE7): checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                  being prepared for YET ANOTHER VERSION once IE8 rares its ugly head... checked
                                                                                                                                                                                  cursing and banging head against the wall because IE isn't compliant with anything, not even their own absurd laws across different versions: checked

                                                                                                                                                                                  that's the story of my life...
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                                      Doin fine
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                                                                                                                      wow, and me thinking it was the other way... I mean, having to write COMPLIANT CROSS BROWSER CODE: checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Having to write it again so it works on non-compliant browsers (like IE): checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Having to write it YET AGAIN so it works on non-compliant browsers different versions (like IE6 and older and IE7): checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                      being prepared for YET ANOTHER VERSION once IE8 rares its ugly head... checked
                                                                                                                                                                                      cursing and banging head against the wall because IE isn't compliant with anything, not even their own absurd laws across different versions: checked

                                                                                                                                                                                      that's the story of my life...
                                                                                                                                                                                      And I think that ends the thread. lol Probably not too many more experienced with cross browser issues than Harvey lol.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • harvey
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                                                                                                                          Yep, but IE supports commercial objects that are beyond the scope of w3c.
                                                                                                                                                                                          you mean like .png files?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • psili
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                                                                                                                              you mean like .png files?
                                                                                                                                                                                              Dude, he's too young to know about the pngfix.js or whatever it was called.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Your post count means nothing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • arial
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • harvey
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by psili
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dude, he's too young to know about the pngfix.js or whatever it was called.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      iepngfix.htc is the most common. and you have no plugin for it (like FF that has plugins for almost anything) so if a webmaster or designer doesn't add it in the CSS and html code you're royally fucked. But who cares about the extension with better image quality at usable file sizes which happens to be used by most designers out there everyday?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I mean... complaining about winamp default support (barely used) when IE can't even handle the most common file types? lolez
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by harvey; 07-14-2008, 05:56 PM.
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