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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #51
    i have been testiing this software over the last few days, im not finished yet so i dont wanna give a full report yet , but i can say that it def does not uninstall itself completely . during my first test some items were easily removed ( obvious program leads ) but hidden files stay resident on your system . what these files do i will report when i know fully.

    My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "
    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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    • Pure Evil
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2006
      • 1737

      #52
      Well, right off the bat, the installer source is linked with altbill (http://altbill.com). "honor system" huh?
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      • King Adam
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 5408

        #53
        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
        i have been testiing this software over the last few days, im not finished yet so i dont wanna give a full report yet , but i can say that it def does not uninstall itself completely . during my first test some items were easily removed ( obvious program leads ) but hidden files stay resident on your system . what these files do i will report when i know fully.

        My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "
        Very interesting. Thanks for the update Smokey ... you rock

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        • Pure Evil
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2006
          • 1737

          #54
          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
          i have been testiing this software over the last few days, im not finished yet so i dont wanna give a full report yet , but i can say that it def does not uninstall itself completely . during my first test some items were easily removed ( obvious program leads ) but hidden files stay resident on your system . what these files do i will report when i know fully.

          My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "
          that's exactly what i figured.




          smokey, i'm decompiling the installer down to it's original code right now. I'll let you know what I find.
          I am the fourth Horseman.


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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #55
            No matter what you find it is not true! Because it didnt happen to idiot Media so its not true.

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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #56
              Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
              What are people arguing here? If they want to send ransomware to surfers, so be it. It's their company and their decision. If people don't like it, they shouldn't send traffic to them. If people don't care, they should continue to send traffic. It's their site and I don't think it's anyone's business what they have or don't have on it. Everyone just seems so worried about other people's sites.

              This shouldn't be about whether it's ransomware or not.
              So if your next door neighbour is a child molester its none of your business ? I fail to see how that works..

              If your next door neighbour is a bank robber , its none of your business ?

              When exactly is it your business.. ?

              So if i wrote a program that made it impossible for surfers to visit any of your sites and paid google to install it on people's computers you wouldnt mind ?
              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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              • Pure Evil
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2006
                • 1737

                #57
                WTF????

                Who the hell wrote this installer? The following is actually part of the installer's source code (and NO I am NOT kidding!):


                "WoW is a sucky MMORPG. City of Heroes is 55550x betteR"




                wtf?
                I am the fourth Horseman.


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                • Brujah
                  Beer Money Baron
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 22157

                  #58
                  Did they decide not to sue ConsumerAffairs?
                  http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...movieland.html

                  In its unsigned statement objecting to ConsumerAffairs.Com's reports, Movieland concluded:

                  We require you to retract or remove this article immediately. We remain hopeful that this matter can be resolved without filing suit against you for libel, tortious interference with contract, intentional interference with prospective economic advantage, and violation of California Civil Code Section 17200.

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                  • media
                    Confirmed Moneymaker
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 9853

                    #59
                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                    So if your next door neighbour is a child molester its none of your business ? I fail to see how that works..

                    If your next door neighbour is a bank robber , its none of your business ?

                    When exactly is it your business.. ?

                    So if i wrote a program that made it impossible for surfers to visit any of your sites and paid google to install it on people's computers you wouldnt mind ?
                    Smokey I fully know what you're saying but you cannot compare something that is violently illegal to something that is someone DEMANDING someone to pay for the license they agreed to sign up for right? In all fairness if it is shady or isnt, you still cannot compare it to bank robbery...
                    I'm here for the violence!

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                    • jayeff
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2001
                      • 2944

                      #60
                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                      What are people arguing here? If they want to send ransomware to surfers, so be it. It's their company and their decision. If people don't like it, they shouldn't send traffic to them. If people don't care, they should continue to send traffic. It's their site and I don't think it's anyone's business what they have or don't have on it. Everyone just seems so worried about other people's sites.

                      This shouldn't be about whether it's ransomware or not.
                      It's "just business", right?

                      Wrong.

                      However popular GFY is, many webmasters do not visit here. Many who do, do not read every thread. So in addition to the impact this kind of crap has on the credibility of our industry as a whole, there have to be many people sending traffic to (in this case) Epic, without knowing what their surfers are getting.

                      And it is crap, regardless of what some are saying here about it being easy to uninstall. When it comes to running a PC, never underestimate how hopeless many people are at dealing with anything out of the ordinary. And let's not be obtuse, that is exactly what this nagware, ransomware, adware, call it what you like, is preying upon. It is designed specifically to catch people who will not easily be able to get rid of it.

                      All this for what? Because the owner of this software offered a few bucks more than another potential advertiser? The very fact that someone from Epic felt it necessary to check the thing out, makes it clear he knew it was at least in the gray end of the market. So apparently he made a conscious decision to risk upsetting visitors to his own site, as well as inviting the totally predictable reaction from some webmasters. That may be business, but it's bad business.

                      We are having to work our asses off today, in large part to restore the credibility we knowingly destroyed yesterday. Yet every time someone dangles an extra dollar bill if only we support the next dubious (at best) practise, we buy into it. Pathetic.

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                      • Rui
                        web
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 9533

                        #61
                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                        i have been testiing this software over the last few days, im not finished yet so i dont wanna give a full report yet , but i can say that it def does not uninstall itself completely . during my first test some items were easily removed ( obvious program leads ) but hidden files stay resident on your system . what these files do i will report when i know fully.

                        My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "
                        Woohhooo suprising...eh not really

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                        • CDSmith
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2001
                          • 51460

                          #62
                          Originally posted by jayeff
                          It's "just business", right?

                          Wrong.

                          However popular GFY is, many webmasters do not visit here. Many who do, do not read every thread. So in addition to the impact this kind of crap has on the credibility of our industry as a whole, there have to be many people sending traffic to (in this case) Epic, without knowing what their surfers are getting.

                          And it is crap, regardless of what some are saying here about it being easy to uninstall. When it comes to running a PC, never underestimate how hopeless many people are at dealing with anything out of the ordinary. And let's not be obtuse, that is exactly what this nagware, ransomware, adware, call it what you like, is preying upon. It is designed specifically to catch people who will not easily be able to get rid of it.

                          All this for what? Because the owner of this software offered a few bucks more than another potential advertiser? The very fact that someone from Epic felt it necessary to check the thing out, makes it clear he knew it was at least in the gray end of the market. So apparently he made a conscious decision to risk upsetting visitors to his own site, as well as inviting the totally predictable reaction from some webmasters. That may be business, but it's bad business.

                          We are having to work our asses off today, in large part to restore the credibility we knowingly destroyed yesterday. Yet every time someone dangles an extra dollar bill if only we support the next dubious (at best) practise, we buy into it. Pathetic.
                          Another home run post. Gad damn man you're on a roll lately.

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                          • Libertine
                            sex dwarf
                            • May 2002
                            • 17860

                            #63
                            If the uninstall was easy and complete, why would somebody write this guide to uninstalling it - http://profend.com/answers/moviepass1.html - rather than just saying "configuration > software > moviepass > uninstall"?

                            Another funny point:
                            http://www.moviepass.tv/?section=faq
                            How do I cancel my membership?
                            You can cancel your MoviePass? Membership at any time by going through the Customer Service page located at members.moviepass.tv/customerservice.
                            Which can only be reached if you've paid for a membership... No information at all on how to uninstall for those who have the program and do not wish to pay yet do want the prog gone.
                            /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                            • Libertine
                              sex dwarf
                              • May 2002
                              • 17860

                              #64
                              Originally posted by media
                              Smokey I fully know what you're saying but you cannot compare something that is violently illegal to something that is someone DEMANDING someone to pay for the license they agreed to sign up for right? In all fairness if it is shady or isnt, you still cannot compare it to bank robbery...
                              It's more than shady. It's like someone putting "if you click 'enter' you have to pay $1000" in the terms textarea on the warning page of his site, after around 1500 words or so, and then sending in a collection agency as soon as someone clicks visits the site.
                              /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                              • Pure Evil
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 1737

                                #65
                                Originally posted by punkworld
                                If the uninstall was easy and complete, why would somebody write this guide to uninstalling it - http://profend.com/answers/moviepass1.html - rather than just saying "configuration > software > moviepass > uninstall"?

                                Another funny point:
                                http://www.moviepass.tv/?section=faq


                                Which can only be reached if you've paid for a membership... No information at all on how to uninstall for those who have the program and do not wish to pay yet do want the prog gone.
                                I am the fourth Horseman.


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                                • King Adam
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 5408

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by punkworld
                                  If the uninstall was easy and complete, why would somebody write this guide to uninstalling it - http://profend.com/answers/moviepass1.html - rather than just saying "configuration > software > moviepass > uninstall"?

                                  Another funny point:
                                  http://www.moviepass.tv/?section=faq


                                  Which can only be reached if you've paid for a membership... No information at all on how to uninstall for those who have the program and do not wish to pay yet do want the prog gone.
                                  And then when you try to access that cancel page in the members area, you are sent here.

                                  http://www.moviepass.tv/reinstall.html

                                  How convenient. Still no uninstall docs or help. This is getting better by the hour.
                                  Last edited by King Adam; 05-23-2006, 02:06 PM.

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                                  • Pure Evil
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2006
                                    • 1737

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by King Adam
                                    And then when you try to access that cancel page in the members area, you are sent here.

                                    http://www.moviepass.tv/reinstall.html

                                    How convenient. Still no uninstall docs or help. This is getting better by the hour.
                                    Nice
                                    I am the fourth Horseman.


                                    If someone offers you an amazing hosting deal, call WEBAIR before you choose. You won't be sorry.

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                                    • Matiz
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 1740

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by King Adam
                                      And then when you try to access that cancel page in the members area, you are sent here.

                                      http://www.moviepass.tv/reinstall.html

                                      How convenient. Still no uninstall docs or help. This is getting better by the hour.
                                      Wow, this guide is big!!
                                      ...

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                                      • Dirty F
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by King Adam
                                        And then when you try to access that cancel page in the members area, you are sent here.

                                        http://www.moviepass.tv/reinstall.html

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                                        • EdgeXXX
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 5816

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Pure Evil
                                          WTF????

                                          Who the hell wrote this installer? The following is actually part of the installer's source code (and NO I am NOT kidding!):


                                          "WoW is a sucky MMORPG. City of Heroes is 55550x betteR"




                                          wtf?

                                          Seriously?
                                          .
                                          .
                                          .
                                          .

                                          I have a sig

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                                          • VOD-Dave
                                            Registered User
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 23

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by jayeff
                                            It's "just business", right?

                                            Wrong.

                                            However popular GFY is, many webmasters do not visit here. Many who do, do not read every thread. So in addition to the impact this kind of crap has on the credibility of our industry as a whole, there have to be many people sending traffic to (in this case) Epic, without knowing what their surfers are getting.

                                            And it is crap, regardless of what some are saying here about it being easy to uninstall. When it comes to running a PC, never underestimate how hopeless many people are at dealing with anything out of the ordinary. And let's not be obtuse, that is exactly what this nagware, ransomware, adware, call it what you like, is preying upon. It is designed specifically to catch people who will not easily be able to get rid of it.

                                            All this for what? Because the owner of this software offered a few bucks more than another potential advertiser? The very fact that someone from Epic felt it necessary to check the thing out, makes it clear he knew it was at least in the gray end of the market. So apparently he made a conscious decision to risk upsetting visitors to his own site, as well as inviting the totally predictable reaction from some webmasters. That may be business, but it's bad business.

                                            We are having to work our asses off today, in large part to restore the credibility we knowingly destroyed yesterday. Yet every time someone dangles an extra dollar bill if only we support the next dubious (at best) practise, we buy into it. Pathetic.
                                            Excellent post and right on the money.

                                            I question the business practices of every single company pushing this crap. Most likely it is only the tip of the iceburg of shady shit going on.

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                                            • Corona
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 2185

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                              My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "
                                              I am shocked to hear that.
                                              I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
                                              And heaven knows I'm miserable now

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