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  • xenilk
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    • Jan 2006
    • 921

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    Chameleon TGP Submitter - Galleries Tips and Tricks

    As a preface, I think this tutorial applies to a lot of webmasters from newcomers to experimented webmasters. Enjoy the read and please give me your feedbacks afterwards!

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    I've seen a lot of people being inspired by general tutorial threads that proved how relatively easy it was to promote and make profitable a site in a month using only chameleon submitter and common HTML/Image Manipulation (for the thumbnails and such) knowledge.

    Unfortunately, I've also seen people getting discouraged after learning HTML, how to make thumbnails and how to play around with affiliates system so that once they get into Chameleon Submitter they feel like it's just another barrier and give up. Most of them don't realize that they are so close to the goal it's almost stupid when you look back at it afterwards.

    So in this tutorial I'm going to go over how to create galleries that are going to work easily with Chameleon Submitter. I am also going to cover a few points where people often make little mistakes that can cost them a few (or many) submissions to TPGs. It's going to be aimed mostly at HG (Hosted Galleries) submissions but I'm assuming that MHG (Movie Hosted Galleries) follow the same standards. If not, I'm sure someone will pin point the differences and slap my wrist for assuming that it's the same.

    Well, first thing first, you must be asking yourself what is Chameleon Submitter and why exactly do I need it?

    Chameleon Submitter is a software designed to make your submissions to TGPs kind of sites easier, because most of them operate under the same kind of software (most of the time) and there are literally thousands of TGP sites covering all kind of niches, so finding all of them would be a hard task. What I also like about CS (tired of typing the whole name, so I will refer to it as CS from now on), is that it tries to follow every TGP's rules. Like if you were on a spree and suddenly decided that it was a good idea to submit 10 teen galleries in one session (which is not a good idea, as you will see later on) CS will eliminate the TGPs that don't allow multiple submissions. It will also remove sites like TheHun.com that only allow you to submit every 3-4 days (so you will only see it in 3 or 4 days after your submission). This basically eliminates most of the pain and makes it harder for you to be blacklisted without even knowing why. It is also to be noted that CS does multiple updates each week that updates the rules/recips/sites, which is always nice.

    Now, do I think you really need it otherwise you're doomed as an Adult worker? Not really. I've been working my way out for the past two years not really being interested by it, it just seemed really confusing and since my galleries are generated automatically it seemed like a pain in the ass to work with. But since I've taken the time, a few months ago, to sit down and see how it could help me I found that it was a tool that, while it's not essential if you don't have the spare money, really makes it easier to guaranty a few extra sales per month and makes it easy to try new niches without finding plugs or trades, it's basically "free" traffic (well 24.95$/month traffic).


    Now, moving on to the biggest part of the tutorial; the common mistakes that people (including I) make when first submitting galleries using the software.


    First, when opening the program don't just pick the broadest niches. "Teens" isn't enough and won't cut it. You will submit to TPGs that are most likely not accurate for your type of content and you will end up giving up because most of them will refuse you or take forever to accept you.

    This also brings me to an important note. Please, I beg you, don't do like most of the newcomers and try to sell oversaturated niches, Glamour Babes/Babes/Teens in general don't sale as much as targeted niches (Pregnant, Pantyhose, Gay, Tranny, Chubby Teen/Mature, Butts, Gaping...). I know you wanted to get in porn because of all the babes and cuties but believe me, by choosing targeted niches, you will solve the first common mistake, and you will have more keywords/categories to enter. You now have "Chubby" , "Teen" , "Non-Nude" (or) "Pussy"/Small Tits, ... etc you see the point.


    Second, don't go advertising more than 5 different sponsors at first. Subscribing to 100 sponsors makes it only harder to keep on since it takes forever to get your first checks. Be happy with 5 sponsors that have 5 sales each @ 14.95 (average 75$) than 100 sponsors who barely have a sale each of 14.95$ since you will most likely never see those checks from the 100 different sponsors before awhile and will most likely be disappointed about it and just give up then start thinking about going back in when you get a few checks a few months later when it's already too late and just feels like a beginning all over again.


    Third, here are the "don't" of what not to do when building a gallery aimed for CS, these should be automatic after awhile:
    • Don't put 300-500kb headers with fancy graphic, the user is there to see your content (your pictures/movies) don't let him wait for your fancy cute header to load. It will also make it less painful (and less expensive) when a big site like TheHun hits you.
    • Don't open anything in new windows (i.e.: no target="_blank" )
    • Don't use rel="nofollow" (I'm assuming most of you don't use it or don't know what it means but for those who do, please don't for galleries that you are going to submit via CS)
    • Don't use relative links (like ../images/1.jpg) use full links (http://www.yoursite.com/images/1.jpg), why? Because, lets face it, most TGP software are poorly coded and won't find your images if the links are relative don't ask me why but it can be a pain in the ass if you get refused because they couldn't find any "images"
    • Host your images on the same server (I used to host my images on another domain and did an htaccess 302 redirect, this got rejected by many TGP and was a bad idea).
    • Don't put any JavaScript (even Google analytics) because most TPG will refuse your galleries right away.
    • Don't exceed 3 links that point outside of the gallery (homepage link, if any, and two sponsor links should be more than enough).
    • Don't put excessive bad language. i.e.: don't use "shit"/"bullshit" or words like that if it's not needed in the context, I mean other than scat porn it shouldn't be there.
    • Don't submit galleries from the same genre everyday. For example in the same day it's a good idea to submit one pregnant and one gay gallery. Not two pregnant.
    • Don't submit over 2 galleries per day. Over two galleries is mostly waste of time, from my experience.


    And here are the "Do"s
    • Try to valid your site beforehand (http://validator.w3.org/) this is optional but can save you some headache, except if you made your page in FrontPage and try to validate it, it's going to be painful.
    • Try to have appealing thumbnails, while they shouldn't all show just the good, try to make them look good and simple.
    • Try to have rich content, which mean more than a few lines of text that doesn't try to sale the gallery. It should basically explain the set.
    • Try to use a title (formatted between H1 tags) and a description underneath in a nice paragraph.
    • Try to use great versatile titles in CS (20/30/35.. chars type of description, they should be descriptive, that's what descriptions are all about right).
    • Try to put at least 4 keywords/categories for each submission.
    • Try to find the model name otherwise leave it empty, writing "cute teen" doesn't help your case.
    • Try to put at least 2-3 recips when asked, while having less than 6 links pointing outside of your site (including those 2-3 recips).




    Fourth, when selecting a thumbnail, make sure it blatantly show the niche it's related to. Let's say you went with feet, don't go cropping the girl's face, this is not what the surfers or the TGP admin will be looking forward to see. Select a nice thumbnail that shows plenty of the girl's feet and make sure it's correctly cropped on all the thumbnail sizes.


    And finally, the last point, update before generating the list of sites to submit too, there's nothing more frustrating than getting rejected because you don't respect the new rules that are in place. Also, I would strongly advice to have 5 threads running for automatic submission and use 2 windows for manual submission (it's just great when you have dual screens).


    I think this covered most of the "advanced" CS tutorial concerning the gallery submission. If there's anything I missed, please point it out. Also, if you have any questions related to what I said because something was unclear or simply too complicated, please fire away.

    Now, this is the part where I do my plug. If you feel like Chameleon Submitter is something that looks like what you need and you found my tutorial helpful, I would more than appreciate it if you could sign up under me. Here's the address with my affiliate ID and here is the address without.

    Thanks!

    P.S: If there is some interest in making a much more basic tutorial I'll go write one which should cover the basics of using the application. I would also love to go more in details with different Chameleon applications like Partnership and such if people felt the need for me to write some tutorials over it.
    Last edited by xenilk; 07-08-2008, 09:34 AM.
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  • Sosa
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    • Oct 2002
    • 40149

    #2
    nice writeup that will definately help out new people

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    • the alchemist
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 3271

      #3
      Very well written
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      • LivePornBlog
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2007
        • 446

        #4
        Here's one thing I've always wanted to know. Are you supposed to crop each gallery submission for each and every thumb size? There's like a million different thumb sizes. Do you just do the common thumb sizes or do you go all out?

        Thanks

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        • Paul&John
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          • Aug 2005
          • 8644

          #5
          You can crop every thumb size with one click..
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          • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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            • Jul 2006
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            #6
            Thank you xenilk for your post
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            • Martin
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              • Dec 2001
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              #7
              Nice man.

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              • xenilk
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2006
                • 921

                #8
                Originally posted by LivePornBlog
                Here's one thing I've always wanted to know. Are you supposed to crop each gallery submission for each and every thumb size? There's like a million different thumb sizes. Do you just do the common thumb sizes or do you go all out?

                Thanks
                I usually go "all out" and screen each thumb in a very fast manner afterwards since it doesn't really take much more time. I hope this answers your question!
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                • GTS Mark
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                  • Jan 2001
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                  #9
                  Great write up!

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                  • elmy
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                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2337

                    #10
                    nice Tips and Tricks
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                    • greasedonkey
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 279

                      #11
                      Hey first thing first, great tutorial xenilk!!

                      It look like a powerful program with many functionality but at the same time very complex. How long will take me to get used to the program?
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                      • ManufacturingMan
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 518

                        #12
                        Nice, thanks man. i'm buying the tgp submitter and the email confirmer this week and this will really help.
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                        • pornguy
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                          • Mar 2003
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                          #13
                          Got some good thoughts in that. To bad most wont read it.
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                          • docsic
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                            • Aug 2004
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                            #14
                            sweet great write up! appreciated

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                            • John.
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                              • Jul 2007
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                              #15
                              excellent post, thanks a million dude!
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                              • Matyko
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                                • Aug 2005
                                • 8681

                                #16
                                Nice!

                                Tip for submitters: try to use even 5-10 windows, all maximised, if you like alttabbing you'll get used to it, and combine this with using some fine shortcuts : ALT+S is success, ALT+E is failed. It makes your work easier ;)
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                                • Paul&John
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                                  • Aug 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Matyko
                                  Nice!

                                  Tip for submitters: try to use even 5-10 windows, all maximised, if you like alttabbing you'll get used to it, and combine this with using some fine shortcuts : ALT+S is success, ALT+E is failed. It makes your work easier ;)
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                                  • ManufacturingMan
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                                    • Nov 2003
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                                    #18
                                    What kind of money is expected from this on average? Sumbitiing 2 galleries a day using Chameleon, promoting hardcore?
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                                    • d-null
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                                      • Apr 2007
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                                      #19
                                      good post and some good ideas

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                                      • Fetish Gimp
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                                        • Feb 2005
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LivePornBlog
                                        Here's one thing I've always wanted to know. Are you supposed to crop each gallery submission for each and every thumb size? There's like a million different thumb sizes. Do you just do the common thumb sizes or do you go all out?

                                        Thanks
                                        To expand on Paul&John's answer, CS allows you to create all the different sized thumbnails with one click, BUT I find it best to review the thumbs it creates, as some thumbs will need to be recreated because of the way they get auto cropped (very narrow or wide).

                                        Click on the "Check sample thumbnails" button and when you see a thumb that looks wrong on the preview page, you can then look it up on the list, click on it and create a better cropped one.
                                        Last edited by Fetish Gimp; 07-09-2008, 10:08 AM.
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                                        • fuhkinglou
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                                          #21
                                          More informative than anything you posted in Ask/Tell :p

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                                          • xenilk
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                                            • Jan 2006
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
                                            What kind of money is expected from this on average? Sumbitiing 2 galleries a day using Chameleon, promoting hardcore?
                                            It really depends on the niche, hardcore can be pretty vague itself. If your galleries are decent (great thumb for each image and easy to find banners / links to sponsors ) you should be able to make over a couple hundred the first month.

                                            But don't worry if you don't make that much at first, sometime bigger TGPs takes a whole lot of time before accepting you (thehun takes about a month...), which can be really frustrating. But after a few months you get things rolling and you'll see the same average number of sales coming up month after month (plus rebills.. etc).

                                            Hope that helps!

                                            Originally posted by fuhkinglou
                                            More informative than anything you posted in Ask/Tell :p

                                            Nice write up.
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                                            • Matyko
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                                              • Aug 2005
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                                              #23
                                              FYI:

                                              - The Hun has 2 months and a week backlog exactly
                                              - Chameleon products do have a very good tutorial online, provided by the official crew

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                                              • gfy zac
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                                                #24
                                                nice writeup that will definately help
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                                                • xenilk
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Matyko
                                                  FYI:

                                                  - The Hun has 2 months and a week backlog exactly
                                                  - Chameleon products do have a very good tutorial online, provided by the official crew

                                                  Peace

                                                  Ah, I guess I was off by a month for The Hun! I also agree that CS have excellent tutorials.
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                                                  • NY Jester
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                                                    #26
                                                    nice tutorial, nice way to break in a new user as the first galleries can be daunting to newbies
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                                                    • Paul&John
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • Serious-Partner
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                                                        #28
                                                        good job ,verry nich B)

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                                                        • NiftyStats Jenna
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • Ace_luffy
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                                                            #30
                                                            nice tutorial


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                                                            • Matyko
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by NiftyStats Jenna
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                                                              • tranza
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                                                                • Jun 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                Good post!
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