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  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #1

    Laptops: the good, the bad, and the ugly

    We are getting ready to upgrade our laptops. Naturally, what we paid $3k for two years ago now has more RAM and larger drives for 1/3 the price today.

    Any recommendations from those that have purchased a laptop in the last 6 months, excluding Mac?

    Weight and performance much more important than price.

    TIA
  • Trax
    [----------------------]
    • Aug 2001
    • 14486

    #2
    i was just about to open the same thread... i will jump in if you dont mind
    i want battery life!

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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #3
      Originally posted by Trax
      i was just about to open the same thread... i will jump in if you dont mind
      i want battery life!
      Well, I have to admit, I am still running the same battery on my Toshiba that it came with. I got the external battery backup which gives me about 4 hours.

      Admittedly, I rarely run on battery alone, mostly when flying, but I have no complaints.

      But feel free to jump in.

      Headed off to Circuit City and whatever other stores there are out here to see what's what.

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      • fuzebox
        making it rain
        • Oct 2003
        • 22352

        #4
        Originally posted by baddog
        Admittedly, I rarely run on battery alone, mostly when flying, but I have no complaints.
        I feel silly about that, I tried to get a laptop with long battery life, and now the only time I use the battery is when moving from one outlet to another in the house.

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        • GrouchyAdmin
          Now choke yourself!
          • Apr 2006
          • 12085

          #5
          Look out for specials the Vostro 1400 series. They're basically just a black Inspiron. The hardware is decent mid-grade and the price is "ramen noodles". If you get the largest battery, it sticks out of the back roughly an inch, but it gives you about 6 hours.

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          • camgirlshide
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            • Jan 2005
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            #6
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            • Compdoctor
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              • Aug 2001
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              #7
              Toshiba laptop for real work and play.
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              • d-null
                . . .
                • Apr 2007
                • 13724

                #8
                I am using an old HP Pavilion and it has been great and bought a new hp pavilion the other week

                another great thing about them is all the ports that they come with... I am using the newest style of aircard for wireless and the xpresscard port that it uses comes with all the pavilions, whereas alot of the other brands don't have them in the price range

                been really happy with my old one and it looks like the new one is built even slicker

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                • jakethedog
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                  • Jun 2004
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                  #9
                  Baddog .. I know you aren't interested in the MACs .. but Battery life and performance are retarded .. I had been a PC guy since 96 .. and the fear of the learning curve was painful .. but it's been a year and I am still amazed almost daily by the performance or reliability .. sorry to chime in, but I haven't been happier ... and haven't throw a laptop across the room since my purchase ..
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                  • marketsmart
                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 20419

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jetjet
                    I am using an old HP Pavilion and it has been great and bought a new hp pavilion the other week

                    another great thing about them is all the ports that they come with... I am using the newest style of aircard for wireless and the xpresscard port that it uses comes with all the pavilions, whereas alot of the other brands don't have them in the price range

                    been really happy with my old one and it looks like the new one is built even slicker
                    i will never buy a non HP laptop again.. i have had a few of the top other brands..

                    HP has been the best by far...

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                    • Grapesoda
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 46238

                      #11
                      me and dean have done real well with fujitsu

                      http://shopfujitsu.com/Consumer.php?...6427&WT.srch=1

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                      • Marialovesporn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 579

                        #12
                        I had an HP which was great, now I am on a Toshiba for 2 years and it still runs perfect. Battery can be upgraded to a higher cell unit I believe. Their support here in The Netherlands is just perfect if there is a technical failure. They will pick it up and bring it back to you fixed for a fair price. I would pick Toshiba or the professional HP range.

                        Good luck !

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                        • munki
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 13393

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jakethedog
                          Baddog .. I know you aren't interested in the MACs .. but Battery life and performance are retarded .. I had been a PC guy since 96 .. and the fear of the learning curve was painful .. but it's been a year and I am still amazed almost daily by the performance or reliability .. sorry to chime in, but I haven't been happier ... and haven't throw a laptop across the room since my purchase ..
                          It's true... no laptop casualties since last summer...

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                          • munki
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                            • Dec 2004
                            • 13393

                            #14
                            Personally I always have been a big Dell fan...

                            Their studio laptops are looking pretty clean right now. I would personally go for an XPS machine, but somehow I'm not pegging you as a heavy gamer, so may not need some of the extra bells and whistles.

                            I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                            • brassmonkey
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                              • Sep 2005
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                              #15
                              yep toshiba
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                              • VicD
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                                • Feb 2005
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                                #16
                                I use a HP Pavilion dv9000, works fine

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                                • Ryan St. Germain
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                                  • Sep 2006
                                  • 1269

                                  #17
                                  If I were to ever go back to a PC and forsake apple, I'd go with a Toshiba. The last non mac notebook I had was a toshiba, and I've owned 2 others, plus an HP and a sony. The HP had lots of little problems, and I'm not a fan of them or Compaq. The sony was a brick out of the box, that I returned, got another brick, and moved on to a toshiba, which lasted me a long time for a lot less expensive machine.

                                  I'm not a fan of gateway or dell, mostly because of their shitty business practices. I'm not sure if it's the same now, but they used to make peripheral companies pay them to license drivers, or they would block them on their computers. Canon printers for instance, would never work on a Dell, and to replace the ram in a Gateway my mom owned, I had to ship it back to them, and they had it forever. Proprietary only works on internal hardware, and you have to have better access to it then mailing it in to get it fixed.

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                                  • munki
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                                    • Dec 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DarkCircus
                                    If I were to ever go back to a PC and forsake apple, I'd go with a Toshiba. The last non mac notebook I had was a toshiba, and I've owned 2 others, plus an HP and a sony. The HP had lots of little problems, and I'm not a fan of them or Compaq. The sony was a brick out of the box, that I returned, got another brick, and moved on to a toshiba, which lasted me a long time for a lot less expensive machine.

                                    I'm not a fan of gateway or dell, mostly because of their shitty business practices. I'm not sure if it's the same now, but they used to make peripheral companies pay them to license drivers, or they would block them on their computers. Canon printers for instance, would never work on a Dell, and to replace the ram in a Gateway my mom owned, I had to ship it back to them, and they had it forever. Proprietary only works on internal hardware, and you have to have better access to it then mailing it in to get it fixed.
                                    Def no the case, at least anymore, with Dell... I swap parts in and out, constantly of my Dells... and never have any driver issues.

                                    I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                                    • cotsios
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                                      • Oct 2001
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                                      #19
                                      dell inspiron are very good 1521
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                                      • Sid70
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                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 16413

                                        #20
                                        Sony Vaio FTW!
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                                        • nexxus
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                                          • Apr 2007
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                                          #21
                                          Get a Mac! Ahem...if you really don't want to, go for a Sony Vaio or something from Lenovo.
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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jakethedog
                                            Baddog .. I know you aren't interested in the MACs .. but Battery life and performance are retarded .. I had been a PC guy since 96 .. and the fear of the learning curve was painful .. but it's been a year and I am still amazed almost daily by the performance or reliability .. sorry to chime in, but I haven't been happier ... and haven't throw a laptop across the room since my purchase ..
                                            Primary problem with that is the $1,000's in software that would have to be replaced.

                                            Originally posted by Adultmix
                                            Sony Vaio FTW!
                                            We were just talking about that.


                                            Just got back from a few hours of shopping and no buying. Looks like we will have to get it online since stores don't seem to have crap in the way of selection.

                                            Looks like our requirements are going to be suitable for an extreme gaming machine.

                                            7200 RPM HDD
                                            4 GB RAM
                                            Duo core processor(s) (over 2.0 GHz)
                                            Under 7 lbs
                                            14-15" monitor

                                            I guess we will get docking stations for the external drives, monitor, speakers.

                                            On-site (in store) repair mandatory.

                                            Biggest hassle with stores is it is all Vista. I heard we can get XP if we order online. Otherwise I am thinking we can partition the drive to keep Vista on a small portion and use XP for the rest. Has anyone tried that?

                                            Anyone have anything like this?

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                                            • sandman!
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                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 15431

                                              #23
                                              take a look at the thinkpad t series should have everything you need.

                                              i got a t-60 myself
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                                              • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 3143

                                                #24
                                                I kind of like the power of a tower system over a laptop, however, for business purposes I would get a mac.
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                                                • Ryan St. Germain
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                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                  • 1269

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by munki
                                                  Def no the case, at least anymore, with Dell... I swap parts in and out, constantly of my Dells... and never have any driver issues.
                                                  That's good. The first dell I ever worked on, had specially made memory that was a certain size, so you had to send it in to upgrade it even, lol.
                                                  Gateway was the king of driver bullshit, but I doubt they'd be able to exist in a market like we are in today if they still did it.

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                                                  • Ryan St. Germain
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                                                    • Sep 2006
                                                    • 1269

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by baddog

                                                    Biggest hassle with stores is it is all Vista. I heard we can get XP if we order online. Otherwise I am thinking we can partition the drive to keep Vista on a small portion and use XP for the rest. Has anyone tried that?

                                                    Anyone have anything like this?
                                                    I did, but had to use a full version of windows to do it. The upgraded version crashed over and over again.

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                                                    • farkedup
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                                                      • Nov 2007
                                                      • 2490

                                                      #27
                                                      Sony laptops are only good for looking cool and being extremely overpriced which mac users are used to so mac people that want a PC laptop usually go with the Sony ones.

                                                      Personally I'm still using a Dell E1705 and have had a few Dell 15" both before and after that. Before this 1705 I had a big compaq which had a 17" screen and weighed quite a bit more, ran hotter, less better and was more expensive. My wife has a 14" HP with the touchscreen, webcam, thumbprint thing and all kinds of other shit and honestly its a POS.

                                                      stick with a 15" monitor and avoid the glossy screens if you work in bright areas.
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                                                      • baddog
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                                                        • Apr 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by farkedup
                                                        Sony laptops are only good for looking cool and being extremely overpriced which mac users are used to so mac people that want a PC laptop usually go with the Sony ones.

                                                        Personally I'm still using a Dell E1705 and have had a few Dell 15" both before and after that. Before this 1705 I had a big compaq which had a 17" screen and weighed quite a bit more, ran hotter, less better and was more expensive. My wife has a 14" HP with the touchscreen, webcam, thumbprint thing and all kinds of other shit and honestly its a POS.

                                                        stick with a 15" monitor and avoid the glossy screens if you work in bright areas.
                                                        The monitor is the least of my concerns.

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                                                        • Mr Pheer
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 22083

                                                          #29
                                                          I bought a new HP last october, it works well. Got the docking station for, I run dual monitors, and it has space for a hard drive. Wireless fullsize keyboard & mouse, and I just pop it off the docking station and take it with me when I go out of town, or toss it in my backpack when I leave on my motorcycle.

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                                                          • NoWhErE
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                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                            • 10583

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            Primary problem with that is the $1,000's in software that would have to be replaced.

                                                            Use Windows Parralels and slowly migrate to MAC progs as time goes by.

                                                            Dont forget that you can still run any Windows Program on a MAC
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                                                            • broke
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                                                              • Aug 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              It's funny that all the Mac-tards can't accept the phase "excluding Mac".
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                                                              • baddog
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                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by broke
                                                                It's funny that all the Mac-tards can't accept the phase "excluding Mac".
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                                                                • Sosa
                                                                  In Tushy Land
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 40149

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                  take a look at the thinkpad t series should have everything you need.

                                                                  i got a t-60 myself
                                                                  Thinkpad/lenovo makes some great laptops

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                                                                  • Chauncy
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                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 642

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I have two compaq's and they have both been solid never a problem and I beat the shit out of them, if you paid 3k in the past and if you budget is still in that area Alienware is the way to go
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                                                                    • VexXxed
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                                                                      • Sep 2006
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Alienware M15x FTW!

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                                                                      • baddog
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                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 107089

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by VexXxed
                                                                        Alienware M15x FTW!
                                                                        That's one we are looking at. Kind of heavy, but not too bad I guess.

                                                                        How long have you had yours? Ever have to contact their support?

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                                                                        • VexXxed
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                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                          • 544

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                          That's one we are looking at. Kind of heavy, but not too bad I guess.

                                                                          How long have you had yours? Ever have to contact their support?
                                                                          Had it since February 1st (pre-ordered) and haven't had a single issue. If you are worried about battery life though, I would get the extra battery. This thing gets like 1.5 hours in stealth mode.

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                                                                          • SilentKnight
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                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                            • 24818

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Compdoctor
                                                                            Toshiba laptop for real work and play.


                                                                            My Toshiba Satelite is in its 4th year - and not a single problem. It stays on 10-12 hours everyday on average.

                                                                            But I also got a new Acer laptop recently. Its faster, of course...bigger HD, etc. But the Vista sucks donkey balls.

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                                                                            • Manowar
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                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                              • 71528

                                                                              #39
                                                                              macs are nice to use and dont get bogged down with shit

                                                                              but if your not an OSX user, it would be a pain in the ass to use

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                                                                              • Sid70
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                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 16413

                                                                                #40
                                                                                i do designs, so i second my opinion, 2 lamps screens Vaio deliver. And I saw no better choice.
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                                                                                • gornyhuy
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                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 18041

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I'm in the market myself, I've had 2 dell laptops last trouble-free since 1999!! That was a long time ago though, so I'm not sure how dell is doing these days.

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                                                                                  • Brad
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                                                                                    • Jan 2007
                                                                                    • 2510

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Just out of curiosity...what is the main reason people don't want to move over to a Mac?

                                                                                    Also baddog with those kind of specs I would seriously consider a desktop if I were you. Keep your current laptop for when you are on the road and use the desktop for everything that requires power. A machine like the one that you are looking for will be heavy as hell and the battery will be gone in no time. With a desktop you can always upgrade or change things around for much less.
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                                                                                    • jakethedog
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                                                                                      • Jun 2004
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by VicD
                                                                                      I use a HP Pavilion dv9000, works fine
                                                                                      second HD and 3rd OS install on this exact model in 6 months before I went to MAC ..
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                                                                                      • baddog
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 107089

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Adult Lounge - Brad
                                                                                        Also baddog with those kind of specs I would seriously consider a desktop if I were you. Keep your current laptop for when you are on the road and use the desktop for everything that requires power.
                                                                                        I am always on the road. Switching to making my laptop my primary machine was the best thing I have ever done.

                                                                                        Originally posted by jakethedog
                                                                                        second HD and 3rd OS install on this exact model in 6 months before I went to MAC ..
                                                                                        Maybe if you stopped throwing them against the wall.

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                                                                                        • d-null
                                                                                          . . .
                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                          • 13724

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Adult Lounge - Brad
                                                                                          Just out of curiosity...what is the main reason people don't want to move over to a Mac?
                                                                                          I used exclusively Macs in the 90's for photo work and all my retouching and publishing but switched over to PC years ago and haven't looked back, I can do everything I ever need on PC's with many more options available

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                                                                                          • The Nerd
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                                                                                            • Oct 2001
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I Like the SAony Vaio had mine for 3 years now and never 1 single problem

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                                                                                            • scoremoola
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              macbook pro! ftw

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                                                                                              • DamageX
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                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 14293

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                Primary problem with that is the $1,000's in software that would have to be replaced.



                                                                                                We were just talking about that.


                                                                                                Just got back from a few hours of shopping and no buying. Looks like we will have to get it online since stores don't seem to have crap in the way of selection.

                                                                                                Looks like our requirements are going to be suitable for an extreme gaming machine.

                                                                                                7200 RPM HDD
                                                                                                4 GB RAM
                                                                                                Duo core processor(s) (over 2.0 GHz)
                                                                                                Under 7 lbs
                                                                                                14-15" monitor

                                                                                                I guess we will get docking stations for the external drives, monitor, speakers.

                                                                                                On-site (in store) repair mandatory.

                                                                                                Biggest hassle with stores is it is all Vista. I heard we can get XP if we order online. Otherwise I am thinking we can partition the drive to keep Vista on a small portion and use XP for the rest. Has anyone tried that?

                                                                                                Anyone have anything like this?
                                                                                                Bought a Dell last year and I was able to customize it EXACTLY the way I wanted. XP instead of Vista was no problem at all. One thing though, I called in the order, instead of ordering online. Turns out it was a very good decision, because some of the options I wanted were not available for configuration online, but that didn't mean they weren't available at all. Also you get to haggle a bit over price on certain things. ;) I got the extended warranty for half off, just because I said I didn't want it to begin with and the guy immediately offered it to me at 75%, I said I'll take it for half price and got a deal.

                                                                                                Something else you might want to consider, 4GB of RAM is not needed unless you get a 64bit OS. A 32bit OS can only address a maximum of 3GB or memory. Got 2GB on mine and use it frequently for graphics and never had an issue.
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                                                                                                • DamageX
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Adult Lounge - Brad
                                                                                                  Just out of curiosity...what is the main reason people don't want to move over to a Mac?
                                                                                                  They prefer computers.
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                                                                                                  • Brad
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2007
                                                                                                    • 2510

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                    They prefer computers.
                                                                                                    So what is a Mac? From my experience, they are just as utilitarian as a windows based laptop.
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