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  • NewbieNudes
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    • Jan 2003
    • 940
    #1

    How do domainers feel about having millions wiped off the value of .coms?

    Surely the ICANN decision will affect the value of .coms, how do ppl that trade domains feel?

    Is there a case for a legal class action by them against ICANN to protect the values of .com domains?

    Discuss.
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    • st0ned
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      #2
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        • XPays
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          #3
          there is no definitive proof that opening up the extensions for sale devalues .com's.
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            • NewbieNudes
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              #4
              Originally posted by st0ned
              What decision? I must have missed it.
              There are a few threads on the announcement already - basically .anything will be available from 2009 .sex .porn .coke .wank whatever.
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                • NewbieNudes
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by XPays
                  there is no definitive proof that opening up the extensions for sale devalues .com's.
                  Of course not. But surely it will have an impact. Sex.com is not so valuable is it when in a few years time sex.sex is around or just www.sex

                  I am not saying it will affect the value of .coms - but on thinking about it - it does seem the .com won't be anywhere near as important.

                  Lets hope not - I hope I am wrong.
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                    • marketsmart
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 20419
                      #6
                      Originally posted by XPays
                      there is no definitive proof that opening up the extensions for sale devalues .com's.
                      I am sure Baddog will be in here shortly to let you know why you are wrong...

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                        • potter
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #7
                          .com > *

                          the end.

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                            • Dcat
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                              • Aug 2003
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                              #8
                              With the release of other tlds .com's will ONLY increase in value!

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                                • eightmotives
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                                  #9
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                                    • rebel23
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 817
                                      #10
                                      .com / .net has had continual advertising on tv for 15+ years, there have been loads of new TLDs since then, let them release 100 more it wont make much difference
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                                        • d-null
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                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 13724
                                          #11
                                          I was talking to a guy that owns a multi million dollar company (offline) selling product wholesale to retailers across north america and into south america, and mentioned to him that his company name that he owns the .com to that he doesn't own the .info or .net, and he said to me that he never even heard of .info

                                          .com is the king and will be for a long long time... the rest of these will only be a novelty that some will waste their money on

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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              #12
                                              I would guess they are feeling .owned

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                                                • Evil E
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                                                  #13
                                                  Here's my understanding of it.

                                                  Gold is worth 500$

                                                  Someone discovers Silver, it's worth 200$

                                                  Someone discovers Bronze, it's worth 100$

                                                  Gold is still worth 500$

                                                  (I know this might not be right chronologically, but it's just for the analogy)


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                                                    • Nicky
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                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 30071
                                                      #14
                                                      It might go the opposite way too and strengthen .com even more.....

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                                                        • Mutt
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                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 34431
                                                          #15
                                                          good point - if the Net gets flooded with tons of cheesey TLD's it might make .COM even more prestigious/valuable
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                                                            • Evil E
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                                                              #16
                                                              Indeed, goes with the supply/demand , might go up in price.


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                                                                • XPays
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  a few big domainers did use the word "scary" though
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                                                                    • V_RocKs
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                                                                      • Nov 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      .com will always be the place business gets done...

                                                                      Did .biz pull the business sector away from .com?

                                                                      Then shut up with your fake dramas...

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                                                                        • Socks
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 8475
                                                                          #19
                                                                          It's going to be a nightmare for search engines.

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                                                                            • Bama
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                                                                              • Nov 2001
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              In order to secure a custom top-level domain, applicants will have to submit a business plan and demonstrate that their proposed domain has some kind of "technical capacity." In addition, ICANN will charge between $100,000 to $500,000 for a custom top-level domain.


                                                                              Wheeee! As soon as that loan comes through....
                                                                              .bama here we come!

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                                                                                • Serge Litehead
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                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  If new TLD extensions will be kept only to 3 letters then there won't be any .com devaluation.. unless they open .anything it will take a long time 'till all good once are taken and value goes up again. To my understanding there will be more strict req's to have your own TLD

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                                                                                    • st0ned
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by NewbieNudes
                                                                                      There are a few threads on the announcement already - basically .anything will be available from 2009 .sex .porn .coke .wank whatever.
                                                                                      Hmm, that is wild. Have a link?
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                                                                                        • Hotrocket
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                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • GetSCORECash
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              .com will still retain it's value. a .com domain is still what everyone wants even though .net or .co.uk are available.
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                                                                                                • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Like Bama mentioned its not like anyone can "register" one of these .word tld's like they would a domain. And even still, you could look at it like it only increases the value of .com. Everyone knows .com, its been promoted as "the" extention for the past 15+ years. Why would brands want to confuse the consumer with something new. Not to mention all the typo traffic .com's will get from these tlds. In a nutshell since there will be .whatever in so many forms really the only tld that will stick out will be the ones that have been there from the beginning.
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                                                                                                    • uno
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                      good point - if the Net gets flooded with tons of cheesey TLD's it might make .COM even more prestigious/valuable
                                                                                                      That's how i'm viewing it.
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                                                                                                        • John.
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2007
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Big news all the same, although .com will always be number one, it will be exciting to see its new dot friends develop over the next few years. Roll on .playboy
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                                                                                                            • GAMEFINEST
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              yes yes, everyone reg other tlds while i buy all the coms ..
                                                                                                              Compound interest.

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                                                                                                                • tiger
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                                                                                                                  I don't see how this can't put a serious hurt on current domain values.

                                                                                                                  Simple supply and demand.

                                                                                                                  .com's may hold strong through this but I see the rest taking a big hit.

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                                                                                                                    • ry0t
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I was young when the internet first started. Most of "squatters" who bought up all the good internet real estate made their money. Now it's time to give others a chance who didn't have one before. Shit I would of done the same thing if I wasnt in elementary school at the time. Now its payback bitches!

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                                                                                                                        • Odin
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I think it will likely have a massive effect, though it will take time. Whilst people can easily point out many TLDs that have failed to launch, there are a couple which have hit a market. .tv for instance now gets heavy promotion on television, and many shows, etc use a .tv domain as their primary domain. Whilst .biz .info, etc have indeed failed to take off, I think with time you will see a greater acceptance of domains outside of .com.

                                                                                                                          I imagine .tv will continue to grow as the official television domain, and I can see other decent ones like .law .xxx .kids, etc growing in their respective field. May take another 15 years, but when people start noticing all these different TLD's for legitimate websites (be it a law firm under .law, a travel site under .travel, etc) showing up in google .com's dominance will start to weaken.
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                                                                                                                            • Odin
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                                                                                                                              Not to mention (if I am understanding it all right) various large companies like nike, etc promoting non-.com domains in commercials, campaigns etc. I can see it now running.nike, etc being heavily promoted in various campaigns. It will all contribute to taking away .com's untouchable dominance, and foster an acceptance outside of .com. In a decade or so using something other than a .com will be the norm, and noone (consumers particularly) will think any more of it than visiting a subdomain presently. Beginning of the end for .com's strangle hold on being the only acceptable domain to do business on if you ask me, though it will take a little while.
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                                                                                                                                • cem
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                                                                                                                                  #33
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                                                                                                                                    • mynameisyep
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                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2007
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      so this means .com will increase the price value when purchasing domains? It's not clear enough for me.
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                                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Socks
                                                                                                                                          It's going to be a nightmare for search engines.
                                                                                                                                          Unless they ignore them.

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Bama
                                                                                                                                          In order to secure a custom top-level domain, applicants will have to submit a business plan and demonstrate that their proposed domain has some kind of "technical capacity." In addition, ICANN will charge between $100,000 to $500,000 for a custom top-level domain.


                                                                                                                                          Wheeee! As soon as that loan comes through....
                                                                                                                                          .bama here we come!
                                                                                                                                          At that price won't be much to avoid.

                                                                                                                                          This is my thinking on ICANN. Like most others on the Net they are there to grab as much as possible, as quickly as possible so they can get out or before it collapses.



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                                                                                                                                            • sysk
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              shitttt do u have a link to this article
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                                                                                                                                                • sysk
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ry0t
                                                                                                                                                  I was young when the internet first started. Most of "squatters" who bought up all the good internet real estate made their money. Now it's time to give others a chance who didn't have one before. Shit I would of done the same thing if I wasnt in elementary school at the time. Now its payback bitches!
                                                                                                                                                  well said :p
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                                                                                                                                                    • Jet Redux
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2008
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dcat
                                                                                                                                                      With the release of other tlds .com's will ONLY increase in value!
                                                                                                                                                      i agree.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Andy-Vienna
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2008
                                                                                                                                                          • 41
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I think it will be (only) an additional marketing tool for those multimilliondollar-companies which can afford a tld.

                                                                                                                                                          All of these companies of course will put their new status symbol all over the place so that the typical consumer will get aware that there is more than .com

                                                                                                                                                          But this will lead (in my opinion) to a confused surfer e.g. "o.k. I saw this .coke ad. I want to go to the nike homepage .. hm ... have they .nike or .com ..." And that will (also IMGO) lead to even more use of search engines.

                                                                                                                                                          You would not believe how many people I know doesn't know the "feature" to put an url in the address field of a browser *gggg*. They basically all type the domain (or url) into google. Heck, it would be interesting how many people type "google.com" into the search field at "google.com" because they want to go there ;-) ... but .. that's another story ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                            • Due
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                              .com will always be the place business gets done...

                                                                                                                                                              Did .biz pull the business sector away from .com?

                                                                                                                                                              Then shut up with your fake dramas...
                                                                                                                                                              YES indeed it did, tons of business propossals comming primary from malaysia and various multi million billion dollar banks.
                                                                                                                                                              And you will know for sure it is legit business comming from business men with a high integrity as they use the .biz domain extension
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                                                                                                                                                                • ajrocks
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  .coms will always be the top valued domains. .com has branding the new ones will take years to catch on.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ry0t
                                                                                                                                                                      I was young when the internet first started. Most of "squatters" who bought up all the good internet real estate made their money. Now it's time to give others a chance who didn't have one before. Shit I would of done the same thing if I wasnt in elementary school at the time. Now its payback bitches!
                                                                                                                                                                      at $150000-400000 a pop, how many are you gonna buy?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Btw, to all those who think new tld's mean new money, why don't you pick up some domains from other tld flops like .travel, .pro, .jobs, or the other 200 cc tlds out there?
                                                                                                                                                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Why
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              im going to buy .cim for all the mistyped .com's ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                                  at $150000-400000 a pop, how many are you gonna buy?
                                                                                                                                                                                  Let's not get confused.
                                                                                                                                                                                  He probably referrs to the opportunity to register some prime domains in the new .tlds.

                                                                                                                                                                                  basically, Pepsi may pay that $100-$500k or whatever to get their own .PEPSI registry.
                                                                                                                                                                                  then they will just create a "www" domain meaning their adress will be www.www.pepsi.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Obviously they'll abandon the original "www" and brand themselfes as www.pepsi
                                                                                                                                                                                  However, in my opinion this would be pointless, so that won't happen anytime soon. (if ever).

                                                                                                                                                                                  but obviously some companies will try to get .sex, .music or .hotels domains and then there might be some opportunities for the small webmaster/domainer to secure some good domains in these new tld's. But I think the best domains in all the new TLD's will be auctioned anyway, so the small guy won't get anything good. If someone pays $100k-500k to ICANN to run a .whatever registry, he won't just let you buy the best domains for registration fee.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Actually this is a huge potential business. I won't do it on my own, but I'd be open to work with someone and open our own domain registry. Anyone interested?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Verbal
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I think ICANN grossly overestimates the intelligence of the average web surfer. I see this becoming very confusing for most and like some of you have already said, make the .com even more prestigious.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • SweetT
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Let me see if I can poke a hole in your theory....

                                                                                                                                                                                          Everyone always talks about domains being Internet Real Estate, right? So imagine that I buy a piece of property right in the heart of the busiest intersection of downtown metropolis, lets call it ABC.COM. I get my property right in the heart of everything that is going on, there is shopping, nightlife, dinning, shows, entertainment....so my property is valuable, right?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Just like the the real estate world, many years later someone is going to go into the suburbs and build another property that will compete with mine. It will be a really nice piece of property, but it will be 30 miles from downtown Metropolis, we will call it ABC.TM.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Now, lets answer some questions..... Is ABC.TM worth money? Yes. Can ABC.TM be a good location for me? Yes. Will ABC.TM ever be as valuable as ABC.COM? Nope. Will ABC.TM ever decrease the value of my Metropolis real estate, ABC.COM? Not on your life. Property in the heart of the city will always retain its value...its the suburbs that are always playing catch up baseball.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Of course, this is only my personal opinion...yours may be different.


                                                                                                                                                                                          --T

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • sumphatpimp
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              surfers have been conditioned to type .com and that will always be.
                                                                                                                                                                                              invent a million tld's if you want, good luck trying to get traffic!
                                                                                                                                                                                              other than .com or maybe .net surfers don't know the other tld's exit, and they may even be afraid to click a link to something they don't understand.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  so whoever has .sex for example - they can sell .sex domains ...?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Eriic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                                                                                                                                                      so whoever has .sex for example - they can sell .sex domains ...?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you must buy sex.sex or you have nothing or is that nothing.sex or is it sex.nothing

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