Originally posted by directfiesta
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It wasn't a plane, it was a missile that hit the Pentagon. Get it right!
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ROFL I love these dumbass conspiracy theorists. First they were all "It was a missile, it was a missile, it was a missile!" Then when evidence starts propogating, such as airplane parts, lack of explosive residue, eye witness reports... they start to change their tune to "Ok, it wasn't a missile, but it wasn't a 757!"
Cary | AIM: cheesefrog | ICQ: 4287002Comment
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Please quote .... Obviously, your name calling makes you a very smart person ...Originally posted by CheeseFrogROFL I love these dumbass conspiracy theorists. First they were all "It was a missile, it was a missile, it was a missile!" Then when evidence starts propogating, such as airplane parts, lack of explosive residue, eye witness reports... they start to change their tune to "Ok, it wasn't a missile, but it wasn't a 757!"
I again ask you or Warchild to post a quote of me saying it was a missile ... don't be shy... you are smart enough, aren't you?I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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PLEASE read this one...Originally posted by MattOComment
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too many sheeps in here. the gov't says something, so it must me truei luv mainstreamComment
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Originally posted by directfiesta
"if you wish to".... interesting choice of words.
if you were the one who hijacked the plane and flew it into the pentagon yourself, your last words would be "bush lied, the government is lying... its all a conspiracy, don't believe everyone when they say i really did this and bush is a prick"
the fact is... no matter what anyone says, your mind was made up BEFORE it even happened. everything else is just theater for you to affirm your anger.
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and the only way a small military plane could make it through all rings of heavily fortified building like the pentagon is if it was traveling at mach 1 and made of depleted uranium. it does not have the mass and cannot produce the kenetic energy necessary to make it.Comment
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Regardless of one's views on the matter - The Pentagon Building Performance Report sure is an interesting read.Comment
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Originally posted by Pleasurepaysthe fact is... no matter what anyone says, your mind was made up BEFORE it even happened. everything else is just theater for you to affirm your anger.
A bit like Americans wanted revenge by invading the responsable culprit of 9/11:
SADDAM ...
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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no, americans on average just agreed that upity muslims needed a smack down.Originally posted by directfiesta
A bit like Americans wanted revenge by invading the responsable culprit of 9/11:
SADDAM ...Comment
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Dicksniff, you like to post links that support your argument like this one you posted earlier:Originally posted by directfiestaPlease quote .... Obviously, your name calling makes you a very smart person ...
I again ask you or Warchild to post a quote of me saying it was a missile ... don't be shy... you are smart enough, aren't you?
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/video.html
Go to that page and it supports your missile theory. If you don't want people to think that you support the missile theory, hmm here's an idea: Howabout you don't post links about it trying to support your argument? Wow, what a concept!
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i can't talk anymore... too busy reading all this "non-evidence"Originally posted by directfiesta
A bit like Americans wanted revenge by invading the responsable culprit of 9/11:
SADDAM ...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
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damn physics departments at the nations top universities are in on the "cover up" too.
http://www.innovations-report.de/htm...cht-12739.htmlComment
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Government didn't have to say anything. The pictures themselves told the story. Besides, the government had no motive to strike the Pentagon. The WTC was already hit... If the govt were behind the Pentagon attack, are you saying that they heard about the WTC attack and within the span of a few short minutes they came up with the brilliant idea to also hit the Pentagon too? So the planned out the entire coverup and sent in a missile or some other military plane to kamikaze into the Pentagon and coordinated with local law enforcement and fire departments to make it seem like a 757 struck? Honestly, they put all that shit together on the morning of 9/11 as soon as they heard of the WTC attack?Originally posted by QuaWeeCary | AIM: cheesefrog | ICQ: 4287002Comment
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Originally posted by CheeseFrogDicksniff, you like to post links that support your argument like this one you posted earlier:
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/video.html
Go to that page and it supports your missile theory. If you don't want people to think that you support the missile theory, hmm here's an idea: Howabout you don't post links about it trying to support your argument? Wow, what a concept!
for letting go the name calling ...
That link that I posted was asking : what new frames did we get yesterday.... since those were posted a while ago .... 5 frames ...
I also posted a link to a military plane .... Contrary to you, I am opened to all possibilities ...
But this explanation of this admin " doesn't fly " ( no pun intended ).I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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How do you know if the gov't didn't have a motive? Just because you don't know doesn't mean it doesnt exist.Originally posted by CheeseFrogi luv mainstreamComment
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It was meFighting the hypertrophy of social cognition.
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Read that whole thread... take note of johnlearOriginally posted by Pleasurepaysi can't talk anymore... too busy reading all this "non-evidence"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
point...
Now, in which way that thread has more value then this one ?I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Conspiracy. That was a missile.Comment
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some idiot phsicist from Purdue Universities point of view who studied the crash:
"In layman's terms the crash dynamics worked like so: A large hollow tube, with a belly full of luggage, a passenger bay with 60 people, and wings full of fuel smashed into the side of an almost solid object while moving at a tremendous speed (somewhere around 350-400mph). When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring."Comment
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Gov's never have an agenda ... They work for the people !!!!Originally posted by QuaWee
Come on ... next, you are going to tell me that Iraq has WMD !!!!!The Reichstag fire, a pivotal event in the establishment of Nazi Germany, began at 9:14 PM on the night of February 27, 1933, when a Berlin fire station received an alarm that the Reichstag building, assembly location of the German Parliament, was ablaze. The fire seemed to have been started in several places, and by the time the police and firemen arrived a huge explosion had set the main Chamber of Deputies in flames. Looking for clues, the police quickly found Marinus van der Lubbe, shirtless, inside the building. Van der Lubbe was a Dutch insurrectionary council communist and unemployed bricklayer who had recently arrived in Germany.
Adolf Hitler and Hermann Göring arrived soon after, and, when they were shown van der Lubbe, Göring immediately declared the fire was set by the Communists and had the party leaders arrested. Hitler took advantage of the situation to declare a state of emergency and encouraged aging president Paul von Hindenburg to sign the Reichstag Fire Decree, suspending the basic rights provisions of the Weimar constitution.
The Nazi leaders were determined to demonstrate the Reichstag Fire was a deed of the Comintern, and in early March 1933, three men were arrested who were to play pivotal roles during the Leipzig Trial, known also as "Reichstag Fire Trial," namely three Bulgarians: Georgi Dimitrov, Vasil Tanev and Blagoi Popov. The Bulgarians were known to the Prussian police as senior Comintern operatives, but the police had no idea of how senior they were. Dimitrov was in charge of all Comintern operations in Western Europe.
Communist Party leadership is acquitted
The Leipzig Trial took part from September 21 to December 23, 1933, and was presided over by judges from the old German Imperial Court, called the Reichsgericht. The Leipzig Trial was widely publicized and was broadcast on the radio. It was expected the court would find the Communists guilty on all counts and approve the repression and terror exercised by the Nazis against all opposition forces in the country. It was clear the first time Georgi Dimitrov spoke that would not happen. Dimitrov had given up his right to a court appointed lawyer and defended himself successfully. He proved his innocence and the innocence of his Communist comrades and was set free. In addition, he presented evidence that the organizers of the fire were senior members of the Nazi Party.
Hitler was furious with the outcome of this trial. He decreed that henceforth treason ? among many other offenses ? would only be tried by a newly established Volksgerichtshof (People's Court) which later became infamous for the enormous number of death sentences it handed down while led by Roland Freisler.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Originally posted by AdultInsider Cloner
i luv mainstreamComment
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Exactly! And they're also organized enough to orchestrate one of the largest coverups in history -- all within the span of a few minutes!Originally posted by directfiesta I think you're finally coming to your senses 
Cary | AIM: cheesefrog | ICQ: 4287002Comment
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Originally posted by directfiestaBut this explanation of this admin " doesn't fly " ( no pun intended ).
you're objective and balanced and are open to any explanation as usual.... as long as the explanation is that bush is an idiot and america is full of retards.
god forbid, facts might get in the way. go worry about global warming... canada is melting.Comment
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There are so many "facts" from both sides that the details don't add up either way you go.Originally posted by Franck
If it was a jet lots of things don't make sense and if it wasn't then the scale and complexity of the cover up/conspiracy seems hard to pull off.
From the video and hole, a missile seems much likelier sizewize than a passenger jet anyhow.Comment
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We were, till Harper got elected ...Originally posted by Pleasurepays
But global warming is not the doing of a single country ...
Wait, there is other countries .... shit.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Except for the fact that no explosive residue was ever found. And the fact that the passengers were talking on phones to their loved ones right before the crash telling them what was transpiring. Kinda hard to stuff passengers into a missile, isn't it?Originally posted by OzMan
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it was a missile...why cry...your governement did it for you.
they needed to go to war, they need the oil
thank them...but just be awareTelegram PhoenixBrad
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right after the 'attack' there were witnesses saying that it wasnt a plane.
days after the attack these witnesses were nowhere to be found.Comment
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You realize the cost of war and reconstruction for outweighs the cost of simply buying the equivalent crude on the open market, right? I did the calculation a few months back in a post, but esentially of Iraq was to pump out crude at it's MAXIUM PRE Gulf War 1 levels, it would take something like 25 years to offset the cost of war in oil. Saying that this war was about "stealing oil" is just the extreme left version of the right's "WMD experience". Try not to be so simple, Simon.Originally posted by Phoenix
Clearly the war in Iraq was mostly about getting a foot hold in the middle east. Freedom to run operations at will. It's about empire building, and the whole nine yards. Do you think an explosion at the Pentagon was necessary to lead up that war? The fact is that MOST people are stupid. Especially when you get them together in large groups. Americans, Canadians, Russians, Germans, etc etc. It's easy for the powerful to lead the masses, because the masses are stupid.
Your missile theory is simly that, a theory. No credible evidence backs it up. While experts continue to tell us that yes a plane would cause that sort of damage, etc etc, Internet retards here and there tell us differently. It should be a no brainer as to who's word to believe if like most of us you don't have a degree in advanced physics or aero dynamics..Comment
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Did they check for that. If so, you are a brilliant person, so you could post a link to backup your educated statement ...Originally posted by CheeseFrogI know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Originally posted by WarChild
Who said geniuses were running the USA ?I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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No, I hear you on that, but at the same time I was just making a point that there is so much dis-information out there, that the real truth is buried in the bullshit.Originally posted by Franck
The stories being passed off as the truth are only partially true, its like any other 'news' story. There is always a spin. And I don't mean about whether or not planes slammed into buildings and killed many innocent people. I mean about who knew what before hand and who is covering their ass now because they didn't do their job.
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Twas a missileComment
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This just in... anit-porn activists have identified what the actual object was, and are planning to take action.....
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I'm not 100% sure on the Pentagon and if it was a plan/missile or whatever and nobody is, not even infowars.com.
There is a really cool video of a F15 slamming into a concreate wall at huge speed, they were testing the protective exterior wall of a Nuke power plant. To test they flew the plane into a test concreate similar to that of the nuke power plant. I can tell you that Plane disappeared into tiny tiny pieces.
I find it very disturbing all the shit that is going on with the US govenment though. They are certainly capable of doing anything they freaking want too these days. And after 9/11 its amazing how fast people just freely gave away there rights and protections under the law.
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I didn't say it wasn't a plane...Originally posted by Franck
Gee.. I wonder what planet these guys are from...:
Wings that should have been sheared off by the impact are entirely absent. There is also substantial evidence of debris from a much smaller jet-powered aircraft inside the building. We conclude with a high degree of certainty that no Boeing 757 struck the building. We also conclude with a substantial degree of certainty that a smaller, single-engined aircraft, roughly the size and shape of an F-16, did, in fact, strike the building.
A. K. Dewdney, mathematician and computer scientist..
G. W. Longspaugh, aerospace engineer..
Your little speel about a plane the size of a 757 totally disintegrating is a bit exaggerated.. Even if it could disintegrate, you don't think a plane that size would do more damage on impact than a 16' hole? After all.. you said it was traveling at 500 mph... Take a 6 ton engine and slam it into a building at 500 mph and see if it just disintegrates without any damage to the building it hit...
I'll make it easy for ya.. Put this plane through a 2 car garage door..
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Hey believer's...would the U.S. government lie about anything at all?
Have they lied in the past few years about anything?
Does 1 large modern building implode into itself when a plane crashes into it? Does antoher one?
Has any superpower ever really been wrong?
Some people can see a boeing 757 in that video somehow and some people can't.
Maybe it's Iran? Let's wait and see who the superpower tells us it is and let's roll. It's unpatriotic and down right un-american to doubt one's own superpower.Comment
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of course it was a rocket....only americans belive that it was a plane!!Comment
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We will NEVER EVER EVER know the truth. The people that do will die with it...ICQ-307696001 kingfisher.kj [at] gmail.comComment
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Why is such ultra-low-level flight aerodynamically impossible? Because the reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half the distance of its wingspan?until speed is drastically reduced, which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.Originally posted by WarChild
In other words, if this were a Boeing 757 as reported, the plane could not have been flown below about 60 feet above ground at 400 MPH. (Such a maneuver is entirely within the performance envelope of aircraft with high wing-loadings, such as ground-attack fighters, the B1-B bomber, and Cruise missiles?and the Global Hawk.)
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What is creditable evidence? I don't think we have seen any from anyone yet.Originally posted by WarChild
You have a very good point but don't forget that gain of a major source of oil far out ways the dollar value. Also think Tactical, Iraq is in a very good location for the U.S?.ICQ-307696001 kingfisher.kj [at] gmail.comComment
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Show me where they found 2 engines.. the size of those on a 757......Originally posted by CheeseFrogWhat the...??? Where did you read that the engines weren't found?Comment
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some of these hijackers are still alive and well...lol
but hey...you got a foothold in the middle eastTelegram PhoenixBrad
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No, it doesn't work this way anymore in AmeriKa ...Originally posted by Scootermuze
YOU have to prove that they are not there, just like the WMD ... Get on with the program .I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Ya after watching the loose change video, i started to beleive in this govt corruption shit....doesnt suprise me at all...SKYPE#: davievegas - email: ddmedia702[at]mail[.]comComment
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Oops.. my bad..Originally posted by directfiesta
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I'll throw this one in for the fun of it...
For those who say it was a 757..
The impact was on the first floor....
However..
If ya set a 757 on the ground, the nose is above the first floor level..
So the plane flying.. at any level.. would be well above the first floor..
as for the, "It hit the ground just before hitting the bld." it holds no water in that there was no impact crater on the outside.. and if it had hit the ground before entry, the engines, by design, would have broken away from the wings, and the plane would have flipped.. not consistant with the opening..
Just tooooo many arguments against a 757..Comment
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Warblog: A blog that primarily deals with war. Filled with whiny blow hards who are fixated on their stubborn ideas and conspiracy theories. For example, there are countless hours pissed away by conspiracy theorists who think the WTC towers were demolished by bombs planted by the government. These armchair engineers write endlessly about how the physics of the collapse was impossible, how the temperature wasn't hot enough to melt steel, and how the planes were carrying missiles. Of course, the one thing they don't postulate is a REASON.
My personal favorite warblog was one that had a flash animation with people who were quoted as saying "it didn't sound like a plane to me... it sounded like a missile." Thank you Joe Nobody for giving me your expert opinion on what missile sounds like, because gas station superintendents are usually the best people to ask about the sonic signature of ballistic missile thrust.
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