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Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
The site that closes the sale should win. Not that the sites before didn't help with brand recognition! I have major concerns about trojans and other methods of hijacking my affiliate ID. Also worry about just plain traffic leak as the surfer gets to the site. If my affiliate ID isn't on the order page, I lose. A cookie killer program is a typical loss of credit for a sale.
I don't have major answers to resolve the issue though. Session tracking sounds promising. Must admit I don't know exactly how that works.Comment
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um...no offense, but basing a company decision on a GFY is the most idiotic move I have seen from a program in a LONG LONG time
send out an affiliate email and ask for a response
put a poll in the affiliate section of fleshlight
but jesus, don't base business decisions on the views of a forum that has the intelligence level of a parrot
you all need to hire 1. a marketing manager and 2. ANYONE who graduated from ANY business school in the worldboom chicka wah wahComment
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Originally posted by dial
we arent basing it, but the feedback is important
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Should Fleshlight use locked cookies? Not really a good way of asking . . . besides, I think I have clearly stated my position in this thread and others.Originally posted by Ramos
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Thank you for your inputOriginally posted by baddog
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Originally posted by RamosVote BD
Like was mentioned on page one, you have people voting one way and posting another.
I think that is indicative of a poorly worded survey.Comment
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He did send out a lengthy newsletter and invited feed back.Originally posted by dial
The thing about a board is that you can see different points of view and develop an idea or grow from your own original thought. It's more of a group conversation or meeting. I think the thread is positive and useful. That doesn't mean that FL will take the result that wins by a vote.
More people will respond her than in reply emails I think. The thoughts express no doubt will influence a decision and it should. If the voting would be very one sided, that would send a message, esp if many known affiliates spoke up.
Remember that many of the affiliates come from the GFY universe.Comment
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good pointOriginally posted by pussyluver solid info
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Can't say I do everthing perfect myself. At least it started a dialog.Originally posted by baddog
I respect your opinions Baddog. How would you have worded it? It appears like we the affiliates my influence the decisions being made on this program, so lets get all we can out of it.
Is there really any direct competition to the product? Not really, so there is an opportunity to log some bucks here.Comment
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Well, I think that you need to go into with the idea that cookies of some type will/should/must be used, so the question should probably be something along the lines of a multiple choice:Originally posted by pussyluver
1. Do we continue with the lifetime cookies?
2. 6 month cookie
3. 3 month cookie
4. 1 month cookie
5. last site gets the cookie
Obviously, it should probably be tweaked a little more than that, but as I am not a paid consultant, that is close enough for government work.Comment
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Here's a solution that might be fair to all parties involved, though I don't know how easy it would be to implement:
The direct referrer gets his standard cut and if there was a different initial referrer, that affiliate gets a smaller percent (such as is done with webmaster referalls, 5 or 10%).
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Thanks BD!Originally posted by baddog
Lifetime - noway.
From your list, the obvious for me is the close gets the sale (lastsite) and the cookie. Plus sales to follow from that person.Comment
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he sent out a newsletter tell us how shit was going to be, and then at the end of the letter said "Finally, we want to stress that our staff is available for your questions and we love to get feedback from you"...LOL...that is hardly asking for feedback about new policiesOriginally posted by pussyluver
fact is, fleshlight is a poorly run company, with a terrible back end, and a gfy celebrity trying to head up something that is insanely over his skill level
I have been watching other threads on other boards, and more than one person/affiliate has stated how terrible fleshlight has become since Ron left, and that it just keeps getting worse and worse
it is my hope that fleshlight does become a great program for everyone, and that they do get their issues sorted out, but as it stands right now they are like the retard on the first seat of the bus that everyone makes fun of behind his backboom chicka wah wahComment
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The way I see it, if the surfer didn't buy from the first affiliate, that first affiliate didn't do a good enough job of selling the product.
That being said, you should ban fleshlight affiliate sigs in the fleshlight forum, one of your employees told me that was one of the reasons for the locked cookie in the first place so that should just be done away with completely.Comment
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it willOriginally posted by dial
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do you see the forum link on the main page anymore?Originally posted by fuzeboxblewit.com - Performance & Pleasure Training For Men.Comment
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Last one to send the sale....
Just my vote
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and your vote counts!Originally posted by SparksLast one to send the sale....
Just my vote
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Can I have my cookies set to chocolate chip?
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omg those would be so good right nowOriginally posted by MikyMunkiCan I have my cookies set to chocolate chip?
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actually... its in the footer now at the bottom of the page.Originally posted by RamosLast edited by CT; 05-16-2006, 09:08 PM.
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Originally posted by pussyluver
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Only one side is saying anything publicly... They're saying overwrite the cookie or I won't promote fleshlight.. Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen anyone say anything constructive about a locked cookie and I haven't seen anyone say they'd stop promoting fleshlight if they didn't lock the cookie.. If I've missed that info then someone please point it out to me.Originally posted by pussyluverComment
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I did my rant about Ramos too. Don't know him, not even very well from the boards. Therefore, I'm not gonna take shots at him for the sport of it like I would Trey or some of the other characters of GFY.Originally posted by dial
Don't see any useful purpose in constantly slapping them down now. Appears to be a new staff in place to serve the web and affiliates. Correcting all the issues is not going to happen overnight.
Have a strong suspect that there is some stuff going on behind the scenes that most of us are not aware of. Maybe you have the inside track?
I'm in no position to judge any of the staff except by results from this point forward. I'm looking forward to making some real cash with the product. Seems to me, calling the Affiliate Manager a retard as he begins the real work is not the smartest for me. Think it's time to move forward on the whole thing.
Don't want to diss ya dial. We're just looking at this differentlyComment
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Think this was more of a discussion on what is preferred rather that do it this way or I quit. I'm aginst locking the cookie as stated before. If they decide to lock it, I'm not going away. I would bitch loudly if they locked for a year or six months. For me if the decision is to lock it, then only for a month is my vote.Originally posted by Tempest
A side point - How many webmasters know how each of your sponsors handle cookies? Do you take the time to look or ask?Comment
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Actually, for a lot of us it is a promote them or not decision because of all the cheaters/scammers out there that will do all they can to lock the cookie and prevent others from getting sales.Originally posted by pussyluver
There was a very big discussion about cookies a few weeks ago and what sponsors set for cookies was listed for a lot of them in one of the threads.
From that previous discussion, I don't remember any revshare sponsor that locked a cookie. The issue was more on how long some revshare sponsors set the cookie, but I'm pretty sure all of them did last gets sale.
I can't even remember any PPS ones that did either although most PPS programs don't set long term cookies (topbucks locks it for a few minutes for some sort of fraud prevention). However, most PPS programs track the affiliate ID thru the site and it's generally acepted that they take some/most of the typin sales for themselves in order to pay out the high PPS.Comment
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What about a session locked cookie? And 30 days unlocked...
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Last cookie wins...Comment
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Originally posted by Tempest
Right on. How do you protect yourself from this? As far as I know, ya can't really.Comment
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When are you going to open the aff signup process again?Comment
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Ummmmmm.... *ahem*..... just a thought, but why not split the commission between the first and last 50/50? It happens in real-world sales all the time and it seems to me that it would solve most everyones problems..
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um..unless I am on a seperate tour or something, it is right on the bottom of the pageOriginally posted by Ramos
"Fleshlight Discussion Board"boom chicka wah wahComment
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when someone signs up for fleshlight and orders a product, then comes back a year later and orders another one, do we get credit for both sales?boom chicka wah wahComment
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If someone visits and then goes from a new sponsor it should be overwrittenComment
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uhm depends on how much sales a affiliate would make
otherwise yes
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Unlock the cookies! I'm hungry!Comment
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Bump for more opinions/votesI convert male sextoy traffic at ~1:30!!!
Send me your traffic and we'll split 50-50.
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then get rid of the traffic leaking phone numbers on top of the site.My biggest concerns are the affiliates and what is best for them
start with that.
neither did the site evidently. obviously then the site is piss poor atThe way I see it, if the surfer didn't buy from the first affiliate, that first affiliate didn't do a good enough job of selling the product
selling the product and closing the deal.
I could care less about the cookie issue at this point in time.Comment
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Originally posted by dial
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Don't lock the cookie.. that's the point of this...Originally posted by pussyluverComment
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