so they're releasing the 9/11 plane crashing into the pentagon video today...

100..,.....

that looks alot like what you see in the second video on judicial

watching the clip he says " no one in the government acknowledges that it exists" , they don't say it doesn't exist , just that they are commenting if it does exist

what sort of cameras is the pentagon running , 1 frame per a minute ? give me a break , talking about a military establishment and they only have cameras with fuck all frame rate ?

as a great leader once said , tell the lie , enforce the lie , and the lie soon becomes the truth

we don't know if those calls ever took place , if the crash was from gov backing , don't you think they would've had the time and resources to doctor up a few phone calls , then have someone go on air , crying my loved one called me before the crash


in the clip , they said the cameras were in the same location at the same checkpoint , so if they are time lapse , both cameras have the same time pattern ?

Exactly what I was thinking...

I'm sorry to say, but that is not a fucking plane. If that was a plane/jet than I'm fucking God himself.

this may be a little small, but it's easy to see that whatever hit the pentagon was NOT a 757.

Don't fuck with my business ...

I gave them a great deal for these:




7/11 got better ones, but ain't that normal?

Of course it was tampered with. We all know that it was military jets flown by Bush's buddies.

Angle 1

Angle 2

Pretty much the same thing that's been floating around...

yes,it's a cruise missile and looks a lot with that white nose appearing on 2nd video.

Just raises more questions, They had to wait to show that? Something about the whole situation stinks and until they stop playing games it always will.

With a 125' wing span... Oh I forgot.. it all just folded up and went through that little hole..

I honestly think it is pretty smart of them to have released this video. It was their attempt to quash the conspiracy theorists asking why the videos were confiscated and never made public in the first place.

When I first watched the video, I was like... wtf. But then I realized that whoever decided to do this was clever but not that clever. Security cameras have low frames per second. It honestly does not even look like a video but just pictures taken at low resolution twice every second. Now, all of us expected us to see the fuselage and the tail wing and etc but we don't. And no one can slow this down any more than it is now to analyze it. You see a tiny bit of the nose and then the explosion which seems to cover up the tail of whatever it was.

I am rather surprised that the quality and activity of this camera was so low considering that this is a security camera to The Pentagon. I would have expected a more powerful camera - I mean, this isn't a security camera to overlook a counter at a gas station okay. Even McDonalds nowadays use higher quality security cameras than this where you can distinctly see the face of whoever is at the counter. Perhaps they took some frames out of the video before they released it.

RUMSFELD: "Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building..............." (referring to the pentagon)


Parage Magazine interview...

Oh that conspiracy theorizing silly boy.......

they just want to re-live the incident or to remember what really happened. anyway 9-11 is just around the corner.

This is just another sorry ass response to the American People's right to know. It's only a matter of time before something fucked up happens again. You can't tell and live on too many lies or the ground gets soggy.

This looks like a cruise missle. A 757 flying at high speed at 10 feet off the ground is such precision flying that tens of thousands of people would have seen it coming in. Where are those tens of thousands? Listen to Coast To Coast AM tonight ( coasttocoastam.com ) and then tomorrow snag up your Winamp and listen to Alex Jones at prisonplanet.com or infowars.com

The guy who did 9/11 In Plain Sight the documentary was on tonight and threw some heavy shit at that video. David VonKleist is his name.

Ja! There are better security cameras at the local Starbucks for cryin' out loud! We spend untold billions on the military and all they had for security cameras was a fucking 'Barney The Dinosaur' video camera??? WTF?

We have cameras that are used to read our license plates from the fucking Moon but the headquarters of the most powerful nation on Earth only had these two sorry ass cameras?

GTFOH!

Don't trust shit anymore. Get your guns, get your rations and wait til the real shit hits the fan.

Fuckin' Senate struck down the border security procedure to initiate some dumbass new immigration policy that will allow 217 million new people into the U.S. over the next 20 years. Who the fuck is gonna take care of all those people?

It's a fucking scam and anyone not pissed off and ready to kick some ass is a fucking retard.

are you guys serious? a plane flys by at over 200mph and you expect a clean video of it? full speed video is 30 frames per second. a plane flying by at that distance took a fraction of a second. exactly how many frames did you expect to capture a commercial jet flying in front of the camera?

Ok, seriously now, anyone who believes that a 757 aircraft makes a hole this big, and leaves a "No Parking" sign intact is fuckin retarded...

another pic

Problem is that 90% of the population are complete zombies. As long as Wal-Mart stays open and they can watch their weekly episode of "24" then they will just sit back, get fatter, and continue to go along with the lies that are fed to them on a daily basis.

There you go. Nuff said!

If anyone thinks the U.S. Government is working for the interests of the American people you are one asswipe shit for brains retard.

What country of people are they working for?

There is no way that was a 757 ... period.

Anyone know exactly how fast they say this plane was travelling when it struck the building?

Assuming that the acceleration (positive or negative) of the plane is negligible in the short period of time, it does not take a genius to figure out how many feet an object would travel horizontally over a certain period of time. If someone can point me to evidence that shows how fast they estimate the plane to be travelling, I'll crunch the numbers.

Taking a closer look at the video with a timer next to it, the frames are approximately 1 frame per second- which again is pretty damn weak for a vehicle gate of the pentagon parking.

At 30 frames per second, you can only see 4 frames of a car going 2 mph?

open your eyes people


where is fucktard franck to come in here and tell us we are all idiots

If it wasn't a plane then what happened to the plane and the people who were aboard it

thats what I said! Why release another film thats going to cause more questions? Oh boy.....

Americans just love switching the channels.

I don't think any American could handle the truth and the experiment called Democracy will cease.

The US justice department has released the first video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon on 11 September 2001.

American Airlines Flight 77 slammed into the US military headquarters, killing 184 people, after it was hijacked as part of an al-Qaeda plot.

The release of the video, taken from a Pentagon security camera, comes after a Freedom of Information Act request by legal watchdog Judicial Watch.

The group said it hoped to dispel conspiracy theories about the crash.

"Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77," president Tom Fitton said.

Some theorists have suggested the aircraft was shot down in flight, and that the Pentagon was struck by a missile.

Moussaoui trial

Stills released in 2002 showed the moment the hijacked plane crashed into the Pentagon, killing 125 people in the building and 59 passengers and crew.

The crash came shortly after two other hijacked airlines were flown into the twin towers at the World Trade Center in New York.

Judicial Watch filed the freedom of information request in 2004, but the Pentagon refused to release the video because it was part of the investigation involving al-Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui, the group said.

This February the group sued the government over its refusal, saying there was "no legal basis" for it.

Washington agreed to release the video after a court sentenced Moussaoui to life in jail for his role in 9/11 earlier this month, a Judicial Watch spokeswoman told the BBC.

The group said it fought to obtain the video because "it was very important to complete the public record" on the attacks.

French author Thierry Meyssan alleged that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon and suggested a truck bomb or missile caused the damage.

Such views are challenged by witness testimony at the scene of an aircraft fitting the description of Flight 77 crashing into the site.

Correspondents say the release of the video is not unhelpful to the Bush administration.

The footage serves as a graphic reminder of why the US launched its global war on terror and is still fighting it, the BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says.

BBC News
May 16, 2006

So to recap, just to make sure all conspiracy theories squashed....

We have a 757 that flew parallel to the ground between 200-500 mph doing no damage to the lawn 10 feet below... it made a 16 foot'ish hole in a building and then vaporized into nothing instantly... and was all captured by a video camera that is so technologically advanced that it could only capture 4 or 5 frames of a car going by at 2-5 mph.... and was only graciously released to the general public after being nagged for 5 years to do so... the reason being that it was too graphic for the American public but the same day the news agencies had pictures of a bear ripping apart a monkey in front of kids at a zoo....

And to top it off, we all know that politicians never lie. Politicians are truthful 100% of the time.

There ya go, that's settles it.

It was the one armed man.

lol..


From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
To know what really happened on 9/11, you had to be there
By DOUG THOMPSON
May 17, 2006, 08:28




It took about, oh, two nanoseconds after the Pentagon released the full surveillance video of American Airlines Flight 77 slamming into the Pentagon for the conspiracy theorists to denounce it as a fake and declare their belief that a missile, not a plane, blew a hole in the side of the massive building in Arlington, Virginia, on September 11, 2001.

Of course, none of these people who flood bulletin boards with their skepticism or fill my email box with threats and obscenities were at the Pentagon on that fateful day. I was and that is why I know such conspiracy theories are wrong.

I arrived at the Pentagon not long after the plane hit, gaining access to the site through Department of Defense media credentials I used to cover all events related to the building.

After getting through the phalanx of security surrounding the building, I walked along Columbia Pike and found a cab with a light pole lying across its hood. The driver sat on the ground nearby, crying, telling police officers he saw the plane scream overhead just a few feet off the ground before it slammed into the building at more than 500 miles per hour.

He had trouble hearing. Close proximity to jet engines and explosions will do that but he described how the plane struck the light pole on the opposite side of Columbia Pike and sent it hurling into the cab.

Allen Etherton had just dropped his wife off at work in Crystal City in Arlington County, Virginia, and turned on the radio to catch the traffic reports when he heard about a jet that hit the twin World Trade Center in New York.

"What the hell is going on?" He wondered aloud as he turned on Columbia Pike, a multi-lane street that runs south of the Pentagon. Then he noticed the jet.

"It was coming low right down over Columbia Pike. I thought 'wait a minute, that's not right.'"

Etherton thought for a moment the plane was going to crash into traffic on the crowded street. Then it banked sharply, sheared off a street light that fell on a cab and rammed into the Southwest side of the Pentagon near the building's heliport.

"It went nose first into the building and disappeared. There was about a second of silence. Then there was a loud explosion and a fireball erupted. I could feel the heat inside the car (the heat had, in fact, bubbled the paint on his car)."

Etherton and other motorists stopped and stared. Some got out of their cars. He couldn't. He just looked.

"I couldn't believe it. I had just watched an airplane crash into the Pentagon! I remember saying 'Jesus fucking Christ! This can't be happening.' But it was. I was seeing it, but I couldn't believe it."

He sat in his car for more than an hour, too numbed by what he saw to move, too stunned to react. He just stared at the inferno. Firemen and rescue workers rushed past. No one asked him to move. Most seemed to not even realize he was there. They had more pressing matters to occupy their attention.

Etherton finally got out of his car, walked over to an embankment on the side of the road, and sat down.

"I was numb. I couldn't talk. I couldn't think. I was just numb."

As a photographer, I went into automatic pilot, shooting photos of the inferno, of rescue operations, of first responders. A messenger from my office showed up with fresh batteries and compact flash cards for my Nikon D1s. He took the full CF cards back so the photos could be selected and put out on the wire.

I worked into the night, alongside other photographers. At one point, Larry Dowling, a Reuters photographer, retched from the smell.

"What," he asked, "is that odor?"

"Something I hoped I never smell again," I replied. "It's the smell of burning jet fuel and human flesh."

I last smelled it in the 70s, covering another American Airlines disaster, a fully-loaded DC-10 that crashed after an engine sheared off during takeoff from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. The plane veered sharply to the left and nosed down into an industrial park near the airport, exploding on impact. I remember that horrible smell to this day, along with the burnt, scarred earth. Not one identifiable piece of aircraft wreckage existed at that crash site. The explosion and fire consumed everything.

Later in the evening, another photographer relieved me and I packed up my gear to head home for some sleep. As I walked along Columbia Pike, I found Etherton still sitting beside his scorched car.

"My wife's home. I finally got through to her on my cell phone," said. "I should go to the hospital and give blood. I need to do something."

Twelve hours after he saw terrorists kill 184 people, the horror of what he saw finally sank in.

His body convulsed. The sobs came. Tears flowed freely down his face.

Some watched the crying man on the hillside. Others turned away. But they were crying too.

When I got home, the shock wore off and I cried. A few weeks later, I attended an off-the-record briefing at the Pentagon and watched the surveillance video that was released to the public Tuesday only after a Freedom of Information Act forced the issue.

I watched it again on Tuesday. It confirms what Etherton, a cab driver and dozens of other eyewitnesses said happened on that terrible day - eyewitnesses with no apparent connections with each other, no connections with the government and, certainly, no possible way to be part of a pre-arranged conspiracy.

Allen Etherton died of a heart attack in 2003. His wife believes the stress of what he saw that day contributed to that death. She says he had nightmares about the plane right up until he died.

He became yet another victim of September 11, 2001. He, and so many others, knew the truth because they saw it happen.

They were there. Those who dishonor them, and everyone who died on that horrible day with wild-eyed conspiracy theories, were not.

? Copyright 2005 Capitol Hill Blue


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artma...ter_8649.shtml

what say you franck?

capitolhill bullshit?

where are these eye witnesses today?

oh wait the one guy who saw somethign is dead...of a heart attack

Now that would be some slick flying!! I'd love to see a 757 bank sharply while 10 feet from the ground and clip a street light!

That would be awesome.. if possible.

They are still around.

Just like the families of the passengers/pilot of flight 77

Although I doubt that they post here on GFY..

I can't imagine that they would fancy the idea of debating silly internet conspiracies

I would think that they are probably just trying to move on from that day

How is it impossible?

Show me the physics on how that can't happen.

I can tell you what is impossible..

A 757 and 60 people vanishing off the face of the earth..

thats a picture from inside the inner ring you fucking idiot. mostly, just the landing gear and misc debris pushed through the last ring.

i can't believe how retarded you people are. if you don't like bush... say you don't like bush. if you don't trust the government, just say you don't trust the government... but the harder many of you argue your points with such idiotic "facts", you just look like a retard.

explain to me how a plain with 125' wingspan flying 10' above the ground can bank sharply. open my eyes.

It's going to take me a while to get myself up off the floor laughing!

Brad

im thinking of the lift required to do so...and i doubt it is possible 10 ft from the ground..the plane wopuld fall 60 ft i bet before making that turn

Speed of the 'plane' was said today on the news to be approximately 350 miles per hour. Even at that reduced speed you don't 'bank' at 350 miles per hour! Do you know how fucking fast that is? Look at a NASCAR race and estimate another 150 mph FASTER than the fastest car there abouts. Add to that a jumbo jet a bank at any short degree would rip it apart. Now the cab driver said he saw the plane overhead at 350 miles an hour? Must've taken all of 1.2 seconds!

I would like to think it was a plane. It adds up that it was BUT there's so much shakey shit surrounding the issue it behooves us to ask the questions on the official side. You cannot trust the press, believe me. You can't. Trust instead the people who were there who have given their testimony for whatever it's worth. Bottom line is something hit the Pentagon, the center of our military on a bright sunny fucking day, a feat no major foreign power had ever achieved, by a few supposed middle eastern men with box cutters. With all the technology available a visual record of only a cheap camera appears. No anti-missile batteries, no radar, no laser beam machines popping out of the ground, no nothing. Just a fucked up building and lots of citizens dead.

The biggest crime here is the incompetence, the laziness, the stupidity and the outright dumbness of those in authority who didn't prepare for the hijacking in the first place and not protecting our citizens on the ground in the second place.

Fuck what hit the building, the main issue is how our lives are not protected after receiving trillions of dollars to do so. I guess you can chalk up the Pentagon victims with the well serviced Katrina victims.

http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/lpa1.html

I suppose all these people are lying or part of the massive coverup



Biggert Judy

Members of Congress have been shuttled to the site to inspect the damage. Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) made the trip on Thursday. She saw remnants of the airplane. ''There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,'' she said. ''It smelled like it was still burning.''


more:

http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

Just found a good site....

http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm

Gotta love Democracy!

Then if you're so smart, where are the skidmarks of the plane itself? if it broke thru the wall then where is the skidmark it left?
It was a fuckin explosion not a plane...

wow. are you guys having a contest to see who can lower the bar on stupidity?

"skid marks"

we will never know what really happened, maybe in 100 years when it doesn't matter anymore, then we will know