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  • Tat2Jr
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    • Feb 2001
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    #1

    Thinking About a Tube Site? See What Google thinks....

    If it can't find a solution, Google should kill YouTube

    ....Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not only a veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple years ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has a huge lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue. And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, has no idea what to do about it........

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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
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      #2
      Lets write Eric and say adapt or die. lol

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        • Drake
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          • Mar 2003
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          #3
          Interesting...

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            • Iron Fist
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              • Dec 2006
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              #4
              Google invented Tubes
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                • Bake
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                  • Jan 2001
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                  #5
                  You would have to wonder why google links to direct competion
                  Maybe they should start by banning all tubes except for you tube.
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                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by tony404
                      Lets write Eric and say adapt or die. lol

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                        • After Shock Media
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                          • Mar 2001
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Bake
                          You would have to wonder why google links to direct competion
                          Maybe they should start by banning all tubes except for you tube.
                          Maybe they are hoping some of the useless bandwidth leaches will move to a new host Let them cost someone else an ass load of money.

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                            • eZe
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                              • May 2003
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                              #8
                              sounds like the adult freehosts of old. We couldn't barely make a dime back when I helped run one of those.

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                                • payd2purv
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                                  • Jan 2008
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                                  #9
                                  there's nothing wrong with youtube. just put more banners on it you corporate asshats..

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                                    • Due
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                                      • Mar 2001
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                                      #10
                                      Seems they found a good way to monetize the traffic, now they can write "this is bad", in about 2 months they release a new press release saying "we did it" and everybody will say great job, sales will be up 200%
                                      Google owns the internet, obviously they know the demographics of their site, just check their recent press release here
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                                        • qxm
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                                          • Jul 2006
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                                          #11
                                          All that traffic and they don't know what to do with it?... thats sad ... ...

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                                            • Brujah
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 22157
                                              #12
                                              They should take a clue from Megarotic.

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                                                • GirlsOnYou
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                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                  #13
                                                  Yea they have a lot of adspace there and they simply aren't even trying to make money. What kind of a moron would just pull the plug? They could at least sell it even if they wouldn't get as much from the sale as they wanted.
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                                                    • k0nr4d
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                                                      • Aug 2006
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                                                      #14
                                                      If they weren't making money they wouldn't have introduced that new thing where you can get your own google ads on videos you upload.
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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                          #15
                                                          SOlution is simple.
                                                          Separate Content from Premium content and offer better quality for a subscription fee.

                                                          Done...
                                                          Instant money maker, cuts bandwidth to a degree, increases advertising rates for premium content. Premium COntent being Indi films, music videos, learning videos.

                                                          Payouts could even be made for premium content similer to royalties.

                                                          It's a gold mine it just unfortunate I do not work for Google...

                                                          Seems like a no brainer to me really... Fuck people can not be this dumb. Or can they?

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                                                            • acctman
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                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 2840
                                                              #16
                                                              easy fix, limit the amount of videos an account can have, make Director and Premuim accounts paid, charge like $10-25 a yr.

                                                              If Flickr, Photobuck, Pbase, and all the other photo hosting sites can charge without any compliants for more space why can't YouTube adopt that model.

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                                                                • mynameisjim
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                                                                  • Aug 2007
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Don't forget, YouTube cost 1.5 BILLION and the operating costs are ongoing. You can't make that back with a few $10 subscriptions.

                                                                  That's why they are in a pinch. Sure, they could implement things like paid accounts, but it won't come near making YouTube profitable and will just make the overhead go up. They need a HUGE SUPER COLLOSAL MONEY MAKING IDEA. And those are rare.
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                                                                    • moeloubani
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                                                                      • Dec 2007
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Google needs to chill the fuck out, they have a hold on a great audience there but the problem is that they don't have a way to record the video directly onto Youtube.

                                                                      That cuts out lots of people that can't download a video from a camera onto the computer then upload it to Youtube. If they added that I think they'd have alot more not-so computer savvy people that would click on ads more.

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                                                                        • sysk
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                                                                          • Aug 2007
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by moeloubani
                                                                          Google needs to chill the fuck out, they have a hold on a great audience there but the problem is that they don't have a way to record the video directly onto Youtube.

                                                                          That cuts out lots of people that can't download a video from a camera onto the computer then upload it to Youtube. If they added that I think they'd have alot more not-so computer savvy people that would click on ads more.
                                                                          DIdn't they introduce a new feature that lets you record directly on youtube from your webcam ? (using Flash)
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                                                                            • Vick!
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                                                                              • Nov 2005
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a private company owned it and you could post and view whatever you wanted up there and no one would say a word because, well, it was practically bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get anything out of a lawsuit?
                                                                              They can handover it to me, a private company, again. I'll happily go bankrupt and operate it.
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                                                                                • acctman
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                                                                                  • Oct 2003
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by sysk
                                                                                  DIdn't they introduce a new feature that lets you record directly on youtube from your webcam ? (using Flash)
                                                                                  yup that's been there for a while too

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                                                                                    • Tat2Jr
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                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                                                                      Don't forget, YouTube cost 1.5 BILLION and the operating costs are ongoing. You can't make that back with a few $10 subscriptions.

                                                                                      That's why they are in a pinch. Sure, they could implement things like paid accounts, but it won't come near making YouTube profitable and will just make the overhead go up. They need a HUGE SUPER COLLOSAL MONEY MAKING IDEA. And those are rare.
                                                                                      Bingo! Huge mistake. 1.5 BILLION - with a "B"
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                                                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                                          • Feb 2007
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          well I guess that is what happens when you build an illegal tube site.

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                                                                                            • Tat2Jr
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                              well I guess that is what happens when you build an illegal tube site.
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                                                                                                • xentech
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                                                  If they weren't making money they wouldn't have introduced that new thing where you can get your own google ads on videos you upload.
                                                                                                  They did that to try to increase their revenue, obviously. Your arguement makes no sense I am afraid.

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                                                                                                    • xentech
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2006
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Relating this to adult tube sites is absolutely retarded however...

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                                                                                                        • Jakez
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          The problem is the site is so popular that practically no one is clicking ads, everyone remembers YouTube without ads so when Google started placing ads in various places they're so obvious and people just ignore them. So many people (don't forget the summer, kids out of school) just sit on YouTube all day watching videos and running up bandwidth. If they hit it heavily with ads before/after videos and everything, I could picture a large portion of the people moving away from them and hosting elsewhere, which might sound bad if you're trying to get as much traffic as you can (who doesn't) but in the case of YouTube, turning people away couldn't be a bad thing.
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                                                                                                            • teg0
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2006
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Its one of those sites that they are fighting so hard to "not be evil" wth because they'd be making money off if it they decided to be evil.

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                                                                                                                • who
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Just insert paid ads into everyone's videos. Easy.

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                                                                                                                    • LeRoy
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                                                                                                                      • Jul 2007
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                      Lets write Eric and say adapt or die. lol
                                                                                                                      That's a good one
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                                                                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Its so funny people here actually think they know better than the braintrust at google. Considering the way corporate works people have probably sat in meeting for ass numbing endless hours, throwing out ideas to fix this. You spend 1.5 billion your kind of committed.Now I'll play armchair CEO,the problem is google spent all that money on a fad and it also goes back to people haven't learned from the first net bubble burst ads will never never pay for everything.

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                                                                                                                            • JamesK
                                                                                                                              hi
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              There's a lot of options to make more revenue, that they haven't done yet.

                                                                                                                              1. Limited amount of views for non-registered users.
                                                                                                                              2. Short commercials before you can watch the video's (maybe for one out of 10 video's to reduce it's annoyingness)
                                                                                                                              3. More banner advertisements on the site
                                                                                                                              4. Weekly/daily newsletter with advertisements
                                                                                                                              5. FPA before you can access site (like many sites do nowadays)

                                                                                                                              I'm not a master in marketing, but I'm pretty sure all of these and more could work well.
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                                                                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by who
                                                                                                                                  Just insert paid ads into everyone's videos. Easy.
                                                                                                                                  If the people who are buying the ads dont see a return after awhile.Then they stop advertising as much and one of the first things smaller businesses do historically when times get bad is pull back ad dollars. It should be throw more ad dollars but it tends to go the other way around.

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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      They could always litter the site with Adbrite and AFF

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                                                                                                                                        • DWB
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          .... Zango?

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                                                                                                                                            • PantieZ
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 1441
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                              If the people who are buying the ads dont see a return after awhile.Then they stop advertising as much and one of the first things smaller businesses do historically when times get bad is pull back ad dollars. It should be throw more ad dollars but it tends to go the other way around.
                                                                                                                                              not 100% correct imo ... it´s like tv comercials. Big companies buy the spots and also cannot see a direct revenue out of them !?

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                                                                                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PantieZ
                                                                                                                                                  not 100% correct imo ... it´s like tv comercials. Big companies buy the spots and also cannot see a direct revenue out of them !?
                                                                                                                                                  Its not the same no fortune 500 company is not going to want their ads next to unlicensed content or like that thing from youtube on here yesterday. The black girl bitching about the black guy with ski mask on or some 15 yr girl stripper wanna be dancing in her shorts.
                                                                                                                                                  I have gmail so it has lots of ads on top, I see very few big company ads most are smaller companies. I might click and look around but Ive never bought anything from one of those ads. Most people tune them out more and more because they arent new anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                    • AdultTrafficMedia
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2007
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Incredible that they would make such a comment particularly when they know more about online advertising and revenue generation than pretty much anybody else.

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                                                                                                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                          http://uk.reuters.com/article/autoNe...37513220080617

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                                                                                                                                                            • PantieZ
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                              Its not the same no fortune 500 company is not going to want their ads next to unlicensed content or like that thing from youtube on here yesterday. The black girl bitching about the black guy with ski mask on or some 15 yr girl stripper wanna be dancing in her shorts.
                                                                                                                                                              I have gmail so it has lots of ads on top, I see very few big company ads most are smaller companies. I might click and look around but Ive never bought anything from one of those ads. Most people tune them out more and more because they arent new anymore.
                                                                                                                                                              good point

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                                                                                                                                                                • slapass
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I think the biggest issue is if Google has ads before illegal content then they are profiting from it. Opens them up more.

                                                                                                                                                                  And if this is not the case then just pimp it out and make some cash.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • d-null
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                      I have gmail so it has lots of ads on top, I see very few big company ads most are smaller companies. I might click and look around but Ive never bought anything from one of those ads. Most people tune them out more and more because they arent new anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                      I think this will become more and more pervasive as the months and years go by... ctr is going down in the last year for the same exact sites, making advertising money off of sites will become more difficult as time goes by, not easier

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                                                                                                                                                                        • mynameisjim
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Like others have said, this smells so much like the late nineties dot com burst it's ridiculous. Back then internet sites that had no way of making money and publicly said so were selling for huge amounts. The thought was that you just get a ton of people looking at your site and find a way to make money later. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now. It's like a siren song, those huge traffic sites that people just know they can make money with somehow if they just figure it out.

                                                                                                                                                                          Unless Google has an amazing, game changing idea, YouTube is going to slowly fade away. And I wouldn't hold my breath on Google having an amazing idea. With all their money in all this time they have ONE profitable product, Adwords. The rest is all this Beta crap and pie in the sky notions like "cloud computing" that sound great during the stockholder conference calls but never materialize into anything that actually makes money.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                                                                                              I think the biggest issue is if Google has ads before illegal content then they are profiting from it. Opens them up more.
                                                                                                                                                                              That's pretty much the problem. It's not just the obvious illegal stuff like ripping parts of movies, videos, tv shows, whatever, but it's also all those musicians that are doing cover versions of songs with no royalties going back to record companies, artists, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                              Youtube is going to face what MP3.com faced a bunch of years ago...eventually youtube will make that move towards regulating their content heavily...some sort of approval system will be put into place on all videos uploaded, just to avoid lawsuits, etc. That's really the main problem is regulating what gets uploaded.

                                                                                                                                                                              When they start regulating though that's when youtube changes and becomes a little more generic feeling.
                                                                                                                                                                              See Sig...oh wait.

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