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Originally Posted by crockett
I think you are missing the forest because you don't see the trees. No one is arguing that mudhoney wasn't first. The point is Mudhoney didn't make it on a national level. Nirvana is what opened up the Seattle scene for the world to see and brought what was coined grunge rock to the forefront at that time.
No one out side Seattle would have heard of Mudhoney on a remotely large scale if it wasn't for Nirvana bringing the light to the seattle scene. MudHoney sure didn't bring that light to it, so it doesn't matter if they were first.
It's like saying Elvis made no impact and was overrated because Hank Williams, Roy Brown and Jimmy Preston sang Rock & Roll before he did. Elvis did essentially the same thing as Nirvana he brought it to the general public which greatly impacted that music scene.
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I'm not denying their influence, just saying they're overrated and did not "change music." I think we're arguing different points. Influence doesn't necessarily mean a band is great. Nirvana wasn't the band that brought the Seattle scene to a national level, it was a collective effort and would have happened without Nirvana.
I think if Billy Corrigan or Eddy Vedder had committed suicide the Smashing Pumpkins or Pearl Jam would be the legendary 90's band. Both of them are better songwriters IMO